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(Reuters)   Yasser Arafat is finally dead, say Palestinian sources. Should be alive again by this afternoon   (reuters.co.uk) divider line 169
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2004-11-09 10:44:51 AM
Yay!!!!
 
2004-11-09 10:45:26 AM
Oh man, this is going to cause... something.
 
2004-11-09 10:45:36 AM
The devil now has a best friend. Enjoy Hell, Yasser
 
2004-11-09 10:45:39 AM
"he's getting better"
 
2004-11-09 10:45:49 AM
Franco says "Ola"!
 
2004-11-09 10:45:51 AM
Boobies Boobies Boobies

/Tired of talking about this crap
 
2004-11-09 10:45:51 AM
I think he's undead at this point.

Get out your garlic and crosses!
Sharpen your pitchforks!
Light the torches!
Storm the Mukatah!
 
2004-11-09 10:45:59 AM
kneejerk reactionary asswipes who do not know shiat from shinola about the middle-east rejoice in 3...2...1...
 
2004-11-09 10:45:59 AM
Good riddance.
 
2004-11-09 10:46:05 AM
Would rather be in Philadelphia.
 
2004-11-09 10:46:27 AM
He's not Arafat ... he's Ara-bigboned.
 
2004-11-09 10:46:51 AM
They better bury his head in a different country just in case.

All Hail Zombie Arafat!
 
2004-11-09 10:46:57 AM
First dibs on his wife.

/kidding
 
2004-11-09 10:47:32 AM
The guy is a HERO.
Think about it. never surrendered, gave back hope.
any means necessary.
 
2004-11-09 10:47:41 AM
He's going to come back to life? Hey, I think he is Jesus. Take that, Bush!
 
2004-11-09 10:47:59 AM
Is he dead? Yasser!
 
2004-11-09 10:48:04 AM
Arafat was a good man. I had the chance to have dinner with the man quite some time ago.

R.I.P.
 
2004-11-09 10:48:12 AM
Yeah, but who are the Nazis in the photgraph? And the BA advert to the right - with all the beds and the slogan "a good night's sleep before you arrive" - priceless.
 
2004-11-09 10:48:16 AM
And the world loses yet another Nobel Peace Laureate

R.I.Hell
 
2004-11-09 10:48:41 AM
Enjoy hell!
 
2004-11-09 10:48:56 AM
The only way to be sure is to either -

1. Burn him

2. Blow his head off with a shotgun

So let's just do one of those and get this over with shall we?
 
2004-11-09 10:49:16 AM
He's going for the resurrection trifecta.
 
2004-11-09 10:49:18 AM
So whens his biatch of a gold digging wife gonna join him.

/* having to fark that woman would be hell enough for any crime
 
2004-11-09 10:49:21 AM
CNN international just had an interview 30 mins ago with a guy who had been visiting him, some top Palestinian dude.. but he's expected to not live through the night.

/in France
//Would love to claim I have a better source than those of you stateside, beinc closer to Paris, but I'm not sure anybody has more access to sources than CNN...
 
2004-11-09 10:49:47 AM
OK, so I'm a young'n and I don't fully understand the ramifications of this. Can anyone (quickly) explain what exactly this means for us, and for the Middle East?
 
2004-11-09 10:49:53 AM
BASHTURN, EDUCATE US
 
GCD
2004-11-09 10:50:01 AM
Are these the same sources as the story below or different sources?

What the hell is the difference anyway?

Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive.

/Not only the name of that 80's band...
 
2004-11-09 10:50:07 AM
From another Reuters article:

"He is dead. It is possible they will delay the announcement," one Palestinian source said. "He died after bleeding in the brain began last night. His bodyguards started hugging and kissing and telling each other to be strong."

/Cue 70's porno music
 
2004-11-09 10:50:39 AM
Baghdad Bob says that Arafat is fine and scheduled to play 18 holes later this afternoon. I believe him. I'm sure he's okay...
 
2004-11-09 10:50:43 AM
DIE DIE DIE MY DARLING!
 
2004-11-09 10:51:08 AM
Somewhere a moderator begins to weep, as he desperately tries to delete all the Monty Python references in the last two threads.
Just go with the flow, Mr. Mod. The cream will rise to the top.
 
2004-11-09 10:51:16 AM
"I think I'll go for a walk..."
 
2004-11-09 10:51:25 AM
Enough already! Both with the not dying thing and with the repeated threads here that keep getting modded to death. This is supposed to be Fark.com. You know, not news. Where the hell is the story about some guy drinking paint to impress his highschool sweetheart or the hunting accidents dammit?!
 
2004-11-09 10:51:45 AM


bashturn

Don't insult our intelligence. I'll be rejoicing once I know for certain that he's toast, and I'm more than a bit familiar with the goings-on of the Middle East.
 
2004-11-09 10:51:58 AM
"Can anyone (quickly) explain what exactly this means for us, and for the Middle East?"

Quickly? No. Sorry. OK, I'll try. Nutters from one side will rejoice. Nutters on the other side will get upset and try to kill the first nutters, who will respond likewise. Repeat for approximately infinity.
 
2004-11-09 10:52:08 AM
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...can't...uh...can't get fooled again.

/got nuthin'
//won't believe it until the corpse is on the airwaves
 
2004-11-09 10:52:22 AM
 
2004-11-09 10:52:22 AM
But.. were they able to get the codes to his secret swiss bank accounts before he dies?

That is what was freaking his wife out.. she aint gunna be rich no more once the palestine thugs steal back all the money arafat originally stole..
 
2004-11-09 10:52:29 AM
"kneejerk reactionary asswipes who do not know shiat from shinola about the middle-east rejoice in 3...2...1..."

So what type of reaction should we expect from the Middle East? My concern is that the details of his illness and death have been so strange. How difficult could it be for doctors to determine what killed him? First it was cancer, then a blood disorder, now liver failure... I have to wonder what is being covered up.
 
2004-11-09 10:52:34 AM
So his wife was right about his aids trying to kill him hu?

Oh well ensuring struggle for power shall be fun, now watch this nuke!
 
2004-11-09 10:52:43 AM
Okay, why are you making fun of this man's passing? He is not a bad person, so his idealogy isnt what we perceive as true, but at least he fought for stuff he believed in. What have you dorks done that made an impact?
Look behind the bullshiat and you'll see he was just a man. he's never done anything to you, or even knows you exist, let him rest in peace.
 
2004-11-09 10:52:44 AM
Yasser Arafat
1459 - 2004


May your frog-like face forever shine brightly in the bowels of hell.
 
2004-11-09 10:54:00 AM
He's not only merely dead, he's really most sincerely dead.
 
2004-11-09 10:54:34 AM
...and CNN.com still has nothing up.

Burn in hell mofo!
 
2004-11-09 10:54:55 AM
The Dead Collector : Bring out yer dead.
[a man puts a body on the cart]

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Here's one.

The Dead Collector : That'll be ninepence.

Arafat: I'm not dead.

The Dead Collector : What?

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Nothing. There's your ninepence.

Arafat : I'm not dead.

The Dead Collector : 'Ere, he says he's not dead.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Yes he is.

Arafat: I'm not.

The Dead Collector : He isn't.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.

Arafat : I'm getting better.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.

The Dead Collector : Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.

Arafat : I don't want to go on the cart.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Oh, don't be such a baby.

The Dead Collector : I can't take him.

Arafat : I feel fine.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Oh, do me a favor.

The Dead Collector : I can't.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.

The Dead Collector : I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Well, when's your next round?

The Dead Collector : Thursday.

Arafat: I think I'll go for a walk.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?

Arafat: I feel happy. I feel happy.

[the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club]

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Ah, thank you very much.

The Dead Collector : Not at all. See you on Thursday.

Large Man with Dead Arafat : Right.
 
2004-11-09 10:55:34 AM
Finally. He made Rasputin seem like a pussy.
 
2004-11-09 10:55:40 AM
PRAISE BE TO ALLAH!

Die you terrorist scumbag!!!! may you plug lots of hairy man ass in hell!
 
2004-11-09 10:55:40 AM
If he arises three days from now, that's going to give him a LOT of leverage on the whole Jerusalem dispute.
 
2004-11-09 10:55:55 AM
DEAD - but stable.....
 
2004-11-09 10:56:13 AM
BTW, if Kerry had become president, Arafat would be dead right now in some AMERICAN hospital, instead of a french one.
 
2004-11-09 10:57:26 AM
Bfett20

Forget it... just take a look at the intergalactic stupidity of comments in this thread...

All graduates from the Hollywood school of foreign affairs. They all hate him, yet they have no idea why (i.e. Cause he's a terrorists asshole !!!).

Not even worthy of the slightest debate.
 
2004-11-09 10:57:42 AM
He he. Drudge's headline finally reading like Fark.
 
2004-11-09 10:57:43 AM
For some time it was possible to have sympathy with some of his aims, even if his methods were often repugnant.

But recently he's been a hindrance to the peace process, his death could be beneficial.
 
2004-11-09 10:57:59 AM
I can't wait for the Islamic version of Bauhaus to write a dark depressing song about this whole thingy.

White on white translucent burqas
Back on the rack
PLO leader's dead
The clerics have left the mosque tower
The israelis have been bled
Red velvet lines the black box
Yassar Arafat's dead
Undead undead undead
 
2004-11-09 10:58:25 AM
Is this going to be another TuPac thing where his fans are convinced he is just living the good life somewhere?
 
2004-11-09 10:59:24 AM
Can't wait to see how Israel plans to violate the Palestinians' civil rights now.
 
2004-11-09 10:59:50 AM
All these people being so glad he is dead.. Its sad. Because its attitudes like this that make the peace process so impossible. I mean its just like to people fighting in real life. Things happen that are unexcusable and neither side wants to give in. In the end one side has to be the bigger person and make that first step toward peace. Neither side is doing this and being glad he is dead is just making it worse. In the end another will rise to fill the political vaccum. That is just the way things happen. And you may all wish you had Yasser back because he was easier in the peace process..
 
2004-11-09 10:59:55 AM
I read the Palestinian PM went to visit him. I imagine he walked in and said, "How are you doing Yasser?" then smothered him with a pillow.

Good riddance. Let's hope some good comes out of the death of this turd.
 
2004-11-09 11:00:26 AM
2004-11-09 10:45:59 AM bashturn


kneejerk reactionary asswipes who do not know shiat from shinola about the middle-east rejoice in 3...2...1...


Sorry to offend you, Mr. Armchair Middle East analyst, but your kneejerk actionary analysis is just as bad. Can you please enlighten us peasants on your glory peace plan. We are in dire need for your analysis.
 
2004-11-09 11:00:52 AM
Did he die with that Daniel Boone hat on?



I'll miss the way he always went wubwubwubwubwubwub with his lower lip. Like an Egyptian (he wasn't from 'Palestine') Dr. Zoidberg.
 
2004-11-09 11:00:53 AM
'E 'as assumed room temperature.
 
2004-11-09 11:00:58 AM
HotWingConspiracy

Yeah, he's burning a fatty with Jim Morrison and Elvis as we speak.
 
2004-11-09 11:01:34 AM
I get the feeling 90% of the posters here don't even know what Arafat did or who he was?
 
2004-11-09 11:01:45 AM
Good. Now Israel can get on with their US-funded genocide program.

 
2004-11-09 11:01:51 AM
I'll see your dancing Ashlee! And raise you a Shatner!
 
2004-11-09 11:01:58 AM
Damn him for not accepting the placement of a country right over what his "people" felt was there own! And damn those Native Americans, too. They should've fought harder! Hell with them all!
 
2004-11-09 11:01:59 AM
"Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That parrot is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk."

"Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords."
 
2004-11-09 11:02:06 AM
Cats don't have as many lives as this guy..
 
2004-11-09 11:02:13 AM
HotWingConspiracy

Yeah, I think they call it heaven.
 
2004-11-09 11:02:29 AM
I wonder if when they finally bury he'll sit up, point, and laugh at all the morners and say,"Fooled Ya!"
...kinda reminding me of The Ring girl...
 
2004-11-09 11:02:47 AM
beautiful plumage!
 
2004-11-09 11:03:08 AM


Quick, hang this around his neck. Make sure he stays down this time.
 
2004-11-09 11:03:12 AM
Bfett20

Standing up for what you believe in doesnt necessarily make you admirable - Bin Laden, Hitler, Bush (semi-joking), etc. stand/stood up for what they believe in too
 
2004-11-09 11:03:14 AM
/Calls broker to buy Caterpillar stock ASAP!
 
2004-11-09 11:03:15 AM



/you spin me right round, Yassar, right round like a record, Yassar, right round round round!
 
2004-11-09 11:03:56 AM
its just gas...thats all...he'll be alright...the silly man tried to eat one of those Full House Pizza's from Pizza Hut...then he said rectum...DAMN NEAR KILLE 'EM...

/table for 1 at Lucifer's Bar and Grill...Yasser wassup...table for 2...
 
2004-11-09 11:04:22 AM
ranold

...but your kneejerk actionary analysis is just as bad.

Take a quick look at this thread ?

zing
 
2004-11-09 11:05:04 AM
Kudos on the headline.
 
2004-11-09 11:05:26 AM
test
 
2004-11-09 11:05:42 AM
tommyjefferson

that piece of proaganda has long been refuted. That father and son were shot by PALESTINE terrorist. they didnt care who they hit, they were just hoping to kill some jews.

Take your lame propaganda to some idiots who might actually belive it.
 
2004-11-09 11:06:39 AM
test
 
2004-11-09 11:07:14 AM
yarr
 
2004-11-09 11:07:31 AM
BlorfMaster

Refuted by who ???... cite your sources.

I would love to know., considering that I was there when it happened and all.
 
2004-11-09 11:07:33 AM
7am PST, CBC Radio says he's still in a coma.
 
2004-11-09 11:07:35 AM
Meh... let's see a body then maybe I will believe it.

/not sure if his death is a good or bad thing/
 
2004-11-09 11:07:40 AM
"May I play Devil's Advocate for a moment?"

 
2004-11-09 11:08:06 AM
See ya in hell, terrorist bastard
 
2004-11-09 11:08:23 AM
Little Bastard Yasser
Trying to be like Nasser
Rolling in his blood money
and making war on Jews

Down came the President
And He said;

"Little Bastard Yasser
there's no more laissez passer
Your reign of terror's at an end
Stop making war on Jews!

I've told you once,
I'll tell you two more times
Then I'll, blow you
All the way to the moon!"

The next day...

Little Bastard Yasser
Trying to be like Nasser
Said "That Yankee didn't mean it
I'll go make war on Jews."

Down came the President
And He said;
"Little Bastard Yasser
I didn't go to Vassar
I will no longer be your biatch,
Wake up and read the news."

I've told you once,
I've told you twice,
I'll tell you one more time
Then I'll, smack you,
All the way to Rangoon!"

The next day...

Little Bastard Yasser
Trying to be like Nasser
"To myself be true I must,
I'll go make war on Jews."

Down came the President
And He said;
"Little Bastard Yasser
Your time has come at last, sir
And now you're going to pay the price
for making war on Jews"

I've told you once.
I've told you twice.
I've told you three times.
Now I'm, gonna tell you
a few more times!

And he does.

And the moral of this story is;
Never negotiate with terrorists.

/stolen from here
//one ticket, window seat if you can...
 
2004-11-09 11:08:30 AM
Anyone else get the ad from Reuters Investment that had the beep*beep*BEEEEEEEEEP sound of a flatline? Ironic ad placement strikes again...
 
2004-11-09 11:08:35 AM
listening to green day's haha you're dead as I read this. coinkeydink?
 
2004-11-09 11:08:36 AM
 
2004-11-09 11:08:37 AM
CNN say officials deny the report....

Palestinian PM visits Arafat

This is kinda amusing.
 
2004-11-09 11:09:04 AM
Is it true that Oliver Stone and Michael Moore are working on "Arafat:Swarthy Loverman"?
 
2004-11-09 11:09:07 AM
BlorfMaster
Got any links to back up that statement? Not trolling, just truely interested
 
2004-11-09 11:09:17 AM
Well I'm pretty sure he's just pining for the fjords
 
2004-11-09 11:09:21 AM
From the news I get here in Paris, he's not dead, but in a deeper coma.
 
2004-11-09 11:09:31 AM
 
2004-11-09 11:09:38 AM


Not only is he merely dead
He's really most sincerely dead
 
2004-11-09 11:09:43 AM
Are they sure this isnt some Evil Arafat Weeble-Wobble that the Palastinians made to trick everyone. He's down he's up..... he's down he's up....he's down he's up.. Yup sounds like an Evil Weeble-Wobble to me alright.

Very much dating myself with this I know....
 
2004-11-09 11:10:04 AM
WHO REALLY KILLED
Mohammed al-Dura... victim of Palestinian , not Israeli violence
Mohammed al-Dura?

http://masada2000.org/al-dura.html
 
2004-11-09 11:10:15 AM
I posted this in the last Arafat thread and got no answer...

Please explain how it's worse when Arafat's orders kill innocent people rather than when they are killed under Pres. Bush's orders?

Seems to me that the US is killing more Arabs than Arafat ever did.
 
2004-11-09 11:11:21 AM
Now if we can only get rid of Sharon, we might make some progress in the peace talks
 
2004-11-09 11:11:22 AM
I just read that he's not dead (cnn). Whats the scoop?
 
2004-11-09 11:11:42 AM
BlorfMaster

He may be sitting in an American Hospital now if Kerry was President. But would that be a bad thing? No it would not. It may have actually been a good thing. He might have lived longer, may have been grateful and more winning to give on peace talks with Israel. The truth is Israel has killed, lied, and lied about killing just like every other country in the world.
 
2004-11-09 11:13:18 AM
See? I told ya... You just can't trust this exit polling.
 
2004-11-09 11:13:19 AM
your right Xcanadian

Bush is horrible, death to America.We should all feel sad and kill ourselves.

Feel better that someone responded?
 
2004-11-09 11:13:21 AM
Gimmie a break. Arafat has had plenty of opportunities to help the palestine people, but his only interest is keeping power and stealing money. Even the palestine people admit he was just a symbol, but useless for any real 'peace' talks!

get with it, fool.
 
2004-11-09 11:13:30 AM
Ever see the movie Papillon? Arafat kinda looks like the leper that smoked cigars.
 
2004-11-09 11:13:57 AM
Miracle Max could solve this mystery
 
2004-11-09 11:14:26 AM
2004-11-09 11:10:15 AM Xcanadian
I posted this in the last Arafat thread and got no answer...

Please explain how it's worse when Arafat's orders kill innocent people rather than when they are killed under Pres. Bush's orders?

Seems to me that the US is killing more Arabs than Arafat ever did.


Geez, don't you know ... bush is doing the morally correct thing!

(My first time using bold/html...I need a cigarette.)
 
2004-11-09 11:14:47 AM
i heard that towel he wears on his head is going to be auctioned off on ebay...



opening bid - 1 Beeleon dollars...
 
2004-11-09 11:15:27 AM
IN OTHER NEWS:

Blunkett plans more local boobies
 
2004-11-09 11:15:44 AM
BlorfMaster

Thanks for the link but you have to admit that the evidence there isn't exactly overwhelming.
Got anything from anywhere more reputable?
 
2004-11-09 11:15:56 AM
"Anyone else get the ad from Reuters Investment that had the beep*beep*BEEEEEEEEEP sound of a flatline? Ironic ad placement strikes again..."

And it was a good news site.

/apple
 
2004-11-09 11:16:17 AM
2004-11-09 11:01:34 AM VitaminH

I get the feeling 90% of the posters here don't even know what Arafat did or who he was?




On the contrary, my friend. Quite a few of us know more than enough to wish this bastard to hell.

You can start here:
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_munich.php
http://www.sonypictures.com/classics/oneday/flash/oneday.html
 
2004-11-09 11:16:34 AM
Nice to see that there are no undertones of racism in this thread.

Long live the ways of white people. It's superior because.....we're white.

/sarcasm
//Change the channel, America is killing the darkies on Fox.
 
2004-11-09 11:16:58 AM
BlorfMaster

still waiting for that link...


Even the palestine people admit he was just a symbol, but useless for any real 'peace' talks!

I would love a link for that one too
 
2004-11-09 11:17:09 AM
 
2004-11-09 11:17:21 AM
would taking up a betting pool on date and time of his death be morbid at this point?
 
2004-11-09 11:17:41 AM
 
2004-11-09 11:18:11 AM
BlorfMaster

He was the only thing they had. You can not negoiate with the enitre country at once. And true he was just a symbol just like bush is a symbol for negoiations. He steals money and can't really negoiate that seiously without the backing of congress.

I'm not fool I'm just kind of hinting at the history of the middle east. The history of leadership change and leaders being taken out/run out/dying out of power without a strong person to take the place of the previous leader.
 
2004-11-09 11:18:34 AM
Hahaha, a masada2000.org link? Does that really look like an impartial site to you?
 
2004-11-09 11:19:58 AM
BlorfMaster

Masada2000. org ???

That is your source ??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You poor ignorant cracker
 
2004-11-09 11:24:33 AM
Hmmm. Let's hear from a source a bit LESS Zionist than the one you cite BlorfMaster

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/10/03/mideast.boy.reut/

"There was an investigation by the major-general of the southern command and apparently (the boy was killed by) Israeli army fire at the Palestinians who were attacking them violently with a great many petrol bombs, rocks and very massive fire," Giora Eiland, head of army operations, told Israel Radio."

I see your point though
.Israeli Lebesraum Genocide = Good.
.Israel killing by commandment from Yahweh = Good.

All Hail The Chosen!

Deuteronomy 20:10-18

"when the LORD your God gives it into your hand you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the cattle, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourselves; and you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the LORD your God has given you."
 
2004-11-09 11:24:33 AM
No one mentioned the rumored $3bn in Swiss Bank accounts yet, that only he has the codes too?

(Well probably his wife too, which is why she's been hawking about.)
 
2004-11-09 11:24:58 AM
when he does pass it would be nice if someone made a slideshow of his accomplishments...played at slighty faster than normal speeds and put to the music of the Trading Spaces theme...
 
2004-11-09 11:25:09 AM
The source said Arafat may not face imminent death, but his death is a only matter of time.

...From the CNN article denying death report. Priceless.
 
2004-11-09 11:25:24 AM
He wasn't really much help to the Palestinians. He put the issue of Palestinian self-determination on the political map, but as time's gone on, it's become clear that his political identity and purpose, and reason for fame, is dependent on the Palestinians existing as an oppressed stateless minority. If the Palestinians had been given their own state for Christmas (or whenever Muslims give gifts), Arafat would have become an instant dinosaur.

So for years he has been a hindrance to the Palestian cause. Every time peace talks come up, he lets them go on and on and then at the last minute digs in his heels about something and torpedoes the deal.

The Palestinians will be much better off with a new generation of leadership. (I hope the Israelis are too -- IOW the new leaders get a frickin' clue and quit bombing cafes.)
 
2004-11-09 11:25:55 AM
freeboater


Nice to see that there are no undertones of racism in this thread.

"You Samoans are all the same. You have no faith in the essential decency of the white man's culture."
 
2004-11-09 11:26:59 AM

There's a difference between mostly dead and all dead.
 
2004-11-09 11:28:54 AM
jonathanjo

YAY unbias, constructive thoughts.


(hey someone needs to help calm this implending flame war.


And its not like you could really make a picture to help demonstrate an impartial view)
 
2004-11-09 11:33:58 AM
As a Jew living in Israel, can I just say...
Many, many Jews and Israelis are disgusted with Sharon and Arafat both. Neither side can totally claim moral high ground. Hatred, bitterness, and self-preservation are all universal. On a different note, Arafat's death will probably not affect the PLO much (as he was mostly a figurehead at this point) other than some terrorist group may consider it an excuse to perpetrate yet another attack.
 
2004-11-09 11:34:57 AM
jrodnewb: You had me at the Trading Spaces theme.
 
2004-11-09 11:35:54 AM
"Okay, why are you making fun of this man's passing? He is not a bad person, so his idealogy isnt what we perceive as true, but at least he fought for stuff he believed in."

Not a bad person? A man who raised a standing army and invaded three countries? A man who killed tens of thousands, many of them his own people? A man who would have established a Baathist-style dictatorship if given the chance? A man who murdered women and strapped bombs to babies, all to lay claim to land that was never his nor his people's to claim in the first place? A man who took millions in Western aid money and kept it for himself and his croneys? A man who took money from Saddam Hussein and Mumamar Khadaffi?

The Israelis have comitted war crimes in their ongoing war for independence, and that's inexcusable, as is their willingness to be a U.S. proxy. But the PLO, Islamic Jihad, et al, have no great cause to fight other than anti-Semetic genocide.

The Middle Eastern conflict isn't about Jews, and it's only tagentially about Western Imperialism. It's about Arabs invading Jewish land, Lebanese land, Persian land, Kurdish land, Turkish land, Coptic land, and all of North Africa. It's about Arab Nationalism, the worst curse on the Earth since German Nationalism.

Arafat was a thrid-rate Pol Pot. I wish there really were a Hell for him to burn in.

Kuno

/remember Leon Klinghoffer
 
2004-11-09 11:36:13 AM
Ugh, I don't want to know the outcome of this. At least Arafat was a balancing force..who knows how Israel will exploit this. Until Palestinian extremists stop blowing themselves up in markets and on public transit, and Israel stops bulldozing homes and denying Palestinians full rights, both sides are equally despicable.
 
2004-11-09 11:37:47 AM
Personally, I think they are installing animatronics in Arafat. With a few all-purpose phrases noone could tell the difference, such as:

Death to Isreal!
Praise be to Allah!
That would be an ecuminical matter!
 
2004-11-09 11:38:12 AM
solidblu
He might have lived longer,

What makes you think that ? France is not exactly a third-world country, you know
 
2004-11-09 11:43:00 AM
All of this dying and coming back to life reminds me of another story.

 
2004-11-09 11:43:36 AM
Padraig.

point taken...
*smacks self on hand*
 
2004-11-09 11:47:01 AM
bludstone

hey who is that handsome fella...oh. *gets struck down for insolence...
 
2004-11-09 11:47:19 AM
Trail Mix

Arafat's death will probably not affect the PLO much (as he was mostly a figurehead at this point) other than some terrorist group may consider it an excuse to perpetrate yet another attack.

But he was such a powerful, megalomaniacal figurehead that he seemed to have the power to direct Palestinian activist energy. And with him and his enormous ego in the picture, any other leader was eclipsed. Here's hoping for a more forward-thinking generation of leaders.

And Trail, as I said before, I really hope they cut it out with the bus bombs, and the changing of the guard results in greater safety for you and your neighbors.
 
2004-11-09 11:51:22 AM
Kunochan

A man who murdered women and strapped bombs to babies

WTF are you smoking ?

all to lay claim to land that was never his nor his people's to claim in the first place?

WHAT ???

The Israelis have comitted war crimes in their ongoing war for independence

Independence from who ? from what ?


But the PLO, Islamic Jihad, et al, have no great cause to fight other than anti-Semetic genocide.

Recogntion of a palestinian state would be one.... perhaps the Israelis are the only perople allowed to fight a 'war for Independence' as you would say.

The Middle Eastern conflict isn't about Jews, and it's only tagentially about Western Imperialism. It's about Arabs invading Jewish land, Lebanese land, Persian land, Kurdish land, Turkish land, Coptic land, and all of North Africa. It's about Arab Nationalism, the worst curse on the Earth since German Nationalism.

You are an asshat !!! an asshat with selective memory... You would probaly prefer not to remember that British colonialism had nothing to do with the middle east.

Do not fight racism with racism, it never works
 
2004-11-09 11:52:21 AM
Didn't RTFA or threads, but...

I'm sure somebody has made a reference to the ancient Week-end Update breaking story about Generalissimo Franco still being reportedly dead.
 
2004-11-09 11:57:36 AM
Kunochan: The Israelis...war for independence

Poor little Israel. Sitting there all peaceful and nice for 2,000 years, harboring no racial-nationalism whatsoever, when suddenly mean 'ol Palestinians pop out of thin air, invade their land, and boot them out!

HAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!

You are one sick puppy my friend.
 
2004-11-09 12:00:49 PM
Good riddance, I say. The man who was allowed to stand before the UN holding a real olive branch and pretending to offer peace on the one hand while plotting terror on the other will not be missed.
Oh, and, dibs on that table cloth that he used to wear on his head.
Yes, one way ticket, window seat, please.
 
2004-11-09 12:02:06 PM
Rest well gentle soul...


/Sarcasm
 
2004-11-09 12:02:10 PM
The important thing to consider is what will the Palistinians do now that they have proof that France Killed Arafat. This comes dangerously close to supporting Isreal. After all they would have healed him if they really liked him.
 
2004-11-09 12:15:07 PM
great headline, and true!
 
2004-11-09 12:34:53 PM
Oh come on.. next you'll be telling me that Rick James is dead.
 
2004-11-09 12:40:26 PM
RubberBabyBuggy

your right Xcanadian

Bush is horrible, death to America.We should all feel sad and kill ourselves.

Feel better that someone responded?


I suppose I should have requested an intelligent response. It's just too bad you didn't actually even try to answer. Perhaps you have no adequate response?

BruiserX
Geez, don't you know ... bush is doing the morally correct thing!

(My first time using bold/html...I need a cigarette.)


Good post. You were only missing the /sarcasm tag :)
 
2004-11-09 12:42:08 PM
Time to follow the money trail, kill some more Hamas turds, and prepare to return a government to it's confused and battered populace. Enjoy hell douschebag!
 
2004-11-09 12:44:21 PM
I CALL DIBS ON THE ZOMBIE ARAFAT COSTUME FOR NEXT HOLOWEEN!
 
2004-11-09 01:15:05 PM
i wonder how his brother no-sir arrafat is doing?

/kill me now
 
2004-11-09 01:15:34 PM
jrodnew
one Beeleon dollars......yup that made my day, I thank you.
 
2004-11-09 01:46:12 PM
I'm sure if the Mossad has some Doctors available in France, they can get Arafat to room temperature pretty quick and end all the, "yes he is, no he isn't, yes he is, no he isn't" debate.

And I'll be up all night lamenting his death.....right
 
2004-11-09 01:50:53 PM
"They can be stopped by removing the head or destroy the brain..."
 
2004-11-09 02:04:31 PM
 

Air America still reports Arafat as alive.

 

 

He's Elvis.

 
 
2004-11-09 02:36:18 PM
What a prophetic headline
 
2004-11-09 03:03:27 PM
bashturn:

If you're going to respond, make some sense.

A man who murdered women and strapped bombs to babies
WTF are you smoking ?


Um, nothing. My statement was a gross simplification, but the man was a mass murderer not only of "combatants" on both sides, but of "civilians" on both sides as well.

all to lay claim to land that was never his nor his people's to claim in the first place?WHAT ???

What what? No Arab has ever had a legitimate claim to land outside of Arabia, just as no Jew has a legitimate claim to land outside of Israel/Judah.

The Israelis have comitted war crimes in their ongoing war for independence. Independence from who ? from what ?

Well, first the British, then every Arab state, now every Arab state except Egypt and Jordan.

But the PLO, Islamic Jihad, et al, have no great cause to fight other than anti-Semetic genocide. Recogntion of a palestinian state would be one.... perhaps the Israelis are the only perople allowed to fight a 'war for Independence' as you would say.

If the so-called Palestinians want their independence from Egypt and Jordan, they can fight Egypt and Jordan for it. And they can take Egyptian and Jordanian land.

You are an asshat !!! an asshat with selective memory... You would probaly prefer not to remember that British colonialism had nothing to do with the middle east.

Riiight. British Colonialism had nothing to do with the Middle East -- the British didn't invent "Palestine," for instance. Sure. Sorry, every country in the Middle East (except maybe Turkey) was invented by the Brits and French.

Do not fight racism with racism, it never works

Agreed. And don't enter a battle of wits unarmed. If you don't know what you're talking about, go read a book.

Kuno
 
2004-11-09 03:09:34 PM
An Egyptian Arab, a Jordanian Arab, a Saudi Arab, a Palestinian Arab and a Jew are on a plane. It's crashing, and they are short one parachute.

The Arabs all agree, "we hate the Jew -- he has to go."

So they grab the Palestinian, and throw him into the Jew, sending them both out the door to their deaths.

Kuno

/a parable
//Then the Saudi sells the extra parachute to fund al-Qaeda.
 
2004-11-09 04:28:49 PM
2004-11-09 12:40:26 PM Xcanadian
Good post. You were only missing the /sarcasm tag :)


Small steps X, I am just taking small steps ... no use running into a situation all gung ho!

(If I did this right, this is red)
 
2004-11-09 04:35:14 PM
For the record, I wrote this headline. I was being sarcastic, not prophetic, but hey, gimme five bucks and I'll read your palm. Ladies only, though, and I'll warn you in advance that I have a unique method of "palm reading" ...
 
2004-11-09 05:17:04 PM
Thank you, NakedReporta, for injecting some non-malicious humor back into FARK.
 
2004-11-09 06:30:06 PM
Has anyone mentioned the simple fact that the Palestinians under the leadership of Arafat use suicide bombers. These bombers go to public places and find innocent people from 8 mo. to 80 yrs old to sneak up on and massacre. The Israelis in turn use armed forces in the open to go up against protesters in the street who support these terrorist.

Are people so blind that they cannot see which of these is evil in every sense of the word.
 
2004-11-09 07:46:04 PM
jayday

The Iraelis have killed over 10 times as many unarmed, neutral civilians as the Palestinians have. 10 times. They bulldoze entire city blocks at a time. They fire randomly into crowds of peaceful protestors. They shoot to kill.

Are you so blindly anti-Arab that you can't see that both are evil?
 
2004-11-09 08:35:40 PM
Patkelly

You know what I completly agree with what you said.....Both sides are evil...BOTH.

My original statement was directed at the morons previously who were whining about the fact the Arafat was dying and that people were happy about it. They were in some farked up way trying to state that he was some person that we should admire....

That is at the heart of were the statement I posted was coming from. Arafat is in no way anyone to be admired. Anyone that thinks so deserves to have there head handed to them.

Period, enough said.
 
2004-11-09 08:36:35 PM
"The Iraelis have killed over 10 times as many unarmed, neutral civilians as the Palestinians have. 10 times."

Uh, bullshiat. The overall ratio death ratio is about 3:1, if you break it down to actual civilians (by removing the suicide bombers themselves, other terrorists killed while committing acts of violence, Palestinians killed by other Palestinians in factional violence, "work accidents" etc.) the ratio becomes less, not more.

Neither side is exactly lily white in this, but let's stick to reality here.
 
2004-11-09 09:00:29 PM
How many 16 year old israelis strap bombs to their bodies and blow themselves up in civillian areas? The only purpose being to kill inocent civillians?
 
2004-11-09 10:10:42 PM
How to make the world a better place...

Remove the terrorists. One down many to go.

Arafat and the PLO in the 70's and 80's were the same as Osama bin Laden's Al'Quada is now.

Arafat had his chance for a peaceful solution to the middle east problem but chose Intifada instead of peace. If Arafat had chosen peace I think that Sharon may not be in power in Israel today.
 
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