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2004-11-09 02:29:21 PM  
Star Jones still responsible for more gravity.
2004-11-09 05:04:43 PM  
I prefer snickers.
2004-11-09 05:04:44 PM  
mmm...noughat and caramel....
2004-11-09 05:05:54 PM  
May I quote spaceballs for a moment:

"Oh shiat, there goes the universe."
2004-11-09 05:05:59 PM  
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2004-11-09 05:07:28 PM  
Yes, we still do not know crap about things that we claim to know everything about.
2004-11-09 05:07:34 PM  
Are they sure this black hole wasn't found anywhere near Uranus ?

Beat ... dead horse.

2004-11-09 05:07:57 PM  
I prefer Almond Joys myself.
2004-11-09 05:09:42 PM  
"... it has been observed that the more massive a black hole, the less dense it has to be... from extropolating the mass and density of the observable universe... we could conceivably be living inside of a black hole..."
2004-11-09 05:10:51 PM  
Ha ha ha. Clark Bar. Butterfinger. Ha ha. Junior Mints. Jelly beans. Ha ha ha. Twix. Kit Kat. Ha ha.
2004-11-09 05:10:55 PM  
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2004-11-09 05:11:40 PM  
strike that, just Rosie O'Donnell's brown star
2004-11-09 05:12:01 PM  
we could conceivably be living inside of a black hole....never thought of it like that.
2004-11-09 05:12:07 PM  
If the second black hole was found in the center then I would think the first one was not in the center. Maybe close to the center but not the center.
2004-11-09 05:13:26 PM  
Beat me to the Maximillian joke! Damn!

Ok, how about:


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2004-11-09 05:13:44 PM  

Where's that quote from?
2004-11-09 05:13:54 PM  
there's a black hole in my brown dwarf

/got so much nothing
2004-11-09 05:14:40 PM  
Sorry but when I read this all I could think about was my favorite epsiode of Lost in Space where there was an alien who would walk around saying, "Crush, kill, destroy."
2004-11-09 05:14:51 PM  
Complete. Nerds.
2004-11-09 05:16:23 PM  
But what about the black hole of Cygnus X-1?

**cue Geddy's bass**

/old Rush fan
2004-11-09 05:16:37 PM  
Peter LemenJello

You just made my day!
2004-11-09 05:18:07 PM  
How many licks does it take to get to the center of it?
2004-11-09 05:18:26 PM  
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Photo of said black hole
2004-11-09 05:19:15 PM  
Nice to see I was not the only one thinking of Rosie on this one.
2004-11-09 05:19:34 PM  
Pfft. old news. Timothy Zahn already knew this.
2004-11-09 05:21:16 PM  
If they find any more, can we start calling that area "the Maw"?

Star Wars EU nerds will understand...but I don't, really!
2004-11-09 05:21:48 PM  
i was trying to think of something clever for this but hell, NSFW:
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2004-11-09 05:22:16 PM  
So, anyone know what's supposed to happen when one black hole absorbs another one? Seems like an odd occurance, but I have a limited astronomy/astrophysics background. Does anyone know what happened to that theory that you could travel through space if you went between 2 close black holes, but not if you went into 1 black hole?
2004-11-09 05:24:04 PM  
"But what about the black hole of Cygnus X-1?"

**cue Geddy's bass**

I think they wrapped that up on Hemispheres:
"We shall call you Cygnus, the god of balance you shall be...."

/yes, I AM an old Rush nerd
2004-11-09 05:25:02 PM  
thermodie - cool eh? Could explain a lot of phenomenae, fits in well with, I'm told, a lot of observations.

FarkingReading - I can't remember, I think it might be a layman's books _Black Holes and Time Warps_. Not a bad book, the science was ok when it was published. Haven't been following astrophysics lately.

Food for thought - supercooled matter. ie., if water is pure enough, you can cool it below 0oC and it'll remain a liquid. Some theorists suggest that, from energy measurements of 'space', that our universe could have similar characteristics... and that "big bangs" are caused by impurities that cause state change.

/I'm probably off on the details of the supercooled idea
2004-11-09 05:25:07 PM  
It's the new Scilla and Charybdis!
2004-11-09 05:25:15 PM  
Does anyone know what happened to that theory that you could travel through space if you went between 2 close black holes, but not if you went into 1 black hole?

Umm, astronauts can travel through space without ANY black holes nearby.

/travel through time?
2004-11-09 05:29:08 PM  
Thanks, rebby, but here's a theory that seems like it might be filled with black holes. From UC-Davis:

The universe may have been created by an explosion within a black hole, according to a new theory by two mathematicians recently published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the U.S.A.

"It's a mathematically plausible model which refines the standard model of the Big Bang," said Blake Temple, professor of mathematics at UC Davis and co-author of the paper with Joel Smoller, professor of mathematics at the University of Michigan.

In the standard model of cosmology, the universe burst into existence with the Big Bang about 13 billion years ago. Since then, the universe, which contains an infinite amount of matter and is infinite in extent, has been expanding in all directions.

In the new model, the Big Bang is an actual explosion within a black hole in an existing space. The shock wave of the explosion is expanding into an infinite space, leaving behind it a finite amount of matter. The universe is emerging from a white hole. The opposite of a black hole, a white hole throws matter out instead of sucking it in.

The shockwave and the universe beyond the black hole lies in our future. Eventually, the universe will emerge from the black hole as something like a supernova, but on an enormously large scale, Temple said.
2004-11-09 05:31:11 PM  
In Diaspora, Greg Egan suggests that the collision of two neutron stars is what sets of gamma ray bursters. (How powerful are they? We can detect them here when the go off in other galaxies. You don't want one of those next door.) If the collision of two supermassive black holes could create the same effect (I'm not sure it can, but I readily admit I can't calculate the amount of Hawking radition which mioght be produced by the rapid, raidcal change in an event horizon), then this could be very, very bad news for us indeed in the long run...
2004-11-09 05:37:34 PM  
Ellie must have busy lately....

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2004-11-09 05:38:03 PM  
FarkingReading interesting theory - but there's so much about astrophysics that would be pretty hard to prove =) There are also other (probably LSD-induced) theories such as that our universe is an echo from parallel planes of a supra-dimension, and the big bangs is the passage through each of those parallel planes (although I don't understand it, some people claim that there's good mathematics to back this up, too).

Noticed the "... standard model of cosmology... contains an infinite amount of matter and is infinite in extent, has been expanding in all directions" - this seems like a *really* old model (ie. infinite matter, infinite extent, and the idea of symmetric expansion).

/head starting to feel like I sucked on some amyl-nitrate; need to go home, smoke some pot
//gamma ray bursts are also cool
2004-11-09 05:39:22 PM  
Hmmm, I'm almost positive that black holes do not move, being remnants of supermassive stars, which do not move (except for rotation on their axis and uniformly around the galactic center). That being said, due to the huge distances, it already may have happened several times and we may be screwed on a large scale- and we don't know it yet. Ah...the joys of spacetime. The Sun could explode and we wouldn't know for 8 minutes. Creepy, huh.
2004-11-09 05:41:27 PM  
Pseudomonas That's kind of science fictiony stuff there the whole traveling between two black holes thing. You might be thinking about a wormhole, which would be where space and time is curved so dramatically around the presence of a large source of gravity (for instance a black hole) that two points in space-time actually touch, this allowing someone to travel instantaneously between two points in space-time that are actually very far away from eachother. All of this is just theoretically possible, and most physicists agree that it is improbable to ever occur naturally and engineering something to create a wormhole large enough for say a spaceship to travel through would take something on the order of all the energy in the known universe or something like that.

That said, I'm not really a scientist, this is all just from reading the popular lay-physics books by Hawking and Greene, so any real scientists feel free to shoot down anything I just said.
2004-11-09 05:42:16 PM  

That's the biggest hole I saw in it, too.

/My head also hurts. Beer will cure me. Goodbye, cruel office.
2004-11-09 05:48:38 PM  
Kewords/phrases from this article:
Accorting to; about; previously; must be; yet to be confirmed; could be; may also explain; may help to confirm; it is possible; are likely...

So, according to the Bible...Eve was previously a "rib", which must be true, although it's yet to be conformed. Moreover, it is possible and may also explain, that her knees are likely sharp, which may help to confirm why Adam likes it "doggy style".

/Whatever, you theory junkies morans.
2004-11-09 05:50:23 PM  
/got an infinte amout of nothin'

2004-11-09 05:51:08 PM  
conformed = confirmed
2004-11-09 05:52:16 PM  
THATS STUPID...everyone knows that black holes are where teh Jesus lives.
2004-11-09 05:52:21 PM  
This is a picture of the other black hole

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2004-11-09 05:59:20 PM  
In other news...

Stephen Hawkings, nicknamed "The Black Whole = the sum of its parts", led his intramural basketball team to victory; in a game in which he utilized his patented "pick-and-roll" play to score a team high -3 points.
2004-11-09 06:00:41 PM  
Beowulf Shaeffer surrenders?
2004-11-09 06:01:07 PM  
Civil_War2_Time wtf are you talking about?

Science isn't about abolutes. It's a process of understanding our universe. All theories are open to revision or even complete scrap-heaping, if there is sufficient evidence. Part of science is about collecting evidence.

/Go ahead and live in your faith based world. I for one won't lament the day of apocalypse or whatever it is where all of you fundies go meet your big invisible papa in the sky, leaving the rest of us behind.
2004-11-09 06:01:45 PM  
Heh. It's called IRS.
2004-11-09 06:02:17 PM  
Hmmm.... the galaxy may be exploding. Has anyone thought to send Beowulf Shaeffer to investigate?
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2004-11-09 06:03:24 PM  
Not sure if this works since I'm typing this from a school machine that might have special access via a site license, but here's the link to the article referenced by the linked article: Astronomy & Astrophysics 423, 155.
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