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2004-11-06 04:28:17 PM  
in a sports bar now with free 80211b watching stats on 5 games (especially the Aggies whomping OU right now 14-7), GamePlan on 40 TVs with individual audio at each table, all-you-can-eat chicken wings, and $3 Yuengling schooners....



PRICELESS!!!


http://www.winnerscirclesportsgrille.com/

/ps - Michael Moore is still fat.
 
2004-11-06 04:28:41 PM  
SuperCMC didn't know that. When I was going to get food today in the dining center I also saw that they are letting WSU students in free, so I guess I was wrong. I thought they had crowding problems.
 
2004-11-06 04:29:01 PM  
Never thought I'd say this, but Go Ags!
 
2004-11-06 04:30:12 PM  
Bigtimmy
Yes it does. Michigan is (as of now) undefeated in conference play. Assuming Wisconsin wins out (a good assumption at this point), they too would be undefeated in conference play. Thus, the tOSU-UM game does indeed have Big 10 title implications. Granted, this year it's not winner take all as per usual, but it is still important.

That, and it's the best rivalry in all of sports.
 
2004-11-06 04:31:12 PM  
Whoops, ment Sidi not SuperCMC.
 
2004-11-06 04:31:18 PM  
Oh, and it's also conceivable at this point that a one-loss Cal team could get into the Orange Bowl ahead of an undefeated Wisconsin. That's a shame. Voters are idiots.
 
2004-11-06 04:32:32 PM  
er... make that TAMC 21 OU 7 .....
 
2004-11-06 04:34:44 PM  
swatty well, when your team is as bad as the Vandals it gets harder to get people motivated to come. If I remember right it was two beers before the game, and I'm not sure if it happens every game at the dome or if it's just an occasional thing.
 
2004-11-06 04:35:03 PM  
aerojockey

conference champs are guaranteed bcs bids. if ND would forego its television deal to join a conference, maybe they could win a crappy conference with an 8-4 record. notre dame steals at-large spots from deserving teams b/c they only need 9 wins or a top10 finish, whereas small-conference teams need a top6 spot, and major conference teams basically need to be 10-1 with huge fanbases that travel.

relevant bcs rule:

"Any team from a non-BCS conference or an independent institution, which is ranked third through sixth in the final BCS Standings, shall qualify for a berth in one of BCS games unless more than two teams meet this criteria. If one or more teams other than Notre Dame qualify for selection, Notre Dame shall also qualify for the at-large pool provided it's ranked in the top 10 in the final BCS standings or has won at least nine games."
 
2004-11-06 04:37:18 PM  
Excen,
With the way LSU has been so inconsistent this year, BSU beating LSU is possibillity but I'd like to see BSU have a winning record in a real football conference like the Big 10 or the SEC. I'd bet against it.
 
2004-11-06 04:38:52 PM  
Since we're on the topic of college football, did anyone see the tOSU-MSU game today? Anybody outside Buckeyeland have any thoughts on Ted Ginn?
 
2004-11-06 04:39:52 PM  
as for the cal thing...i hate the pac10, but it's worth mentioning that cal has played OrSU, AzSU, and SoCal so far this year. wisconsin's toughest opponent so far? ohio state or purdue, both of whom have 3 losses now.
 
2004-11-06 04:39:59 PM  
dmd8605, so you like the fact that UM and Wisconsin could be co-conference champs, and that its a better thing than a title game?

okay.
 
2004-11-06 04:41:57 PM  
good

1) The Grove at Ole Miss

That's all.
 
2004-11-06 04:42:50 PM  
The important thing to remember about BSU football is the severe split personality issue. If it's supposed to be a difficult Bronc's game, they kick ass. On an "easy game", they start playing blind man's bluff instead of football, and give me a damn heart attack
 
2004-11-06 04:43:22 PM  
For the love of God and alll things holy please deliver us a defense in College Station today.

Amen.
 
2004-11-06 04:44:00 PM  
since God loves Aggies, there is no reason to specify a team.
 
2004-11-06 04:44:27 PM  
olddinosaur
All across the country, thousands of dumbass kids risk their health for a few seconds of glory, and what they think may be a chance at the big time.

Seriously, I doubt the majority of kids that play HS football think that. We knew we weren't good enough to play big time football. (Though 2 of my teammates were, 1 played Big 10 and the other MAC) We played because it was fun as hell. Sure, I did do some things medically that I probably shouldn't have, but I would not change a thing. I bet most who played would say the same thing.
 
2004-11-06 04:47:38 PM  
My vote is with bawanaal, olddinosaur.

One of the greatest days of my life was coming out onto the field of Texas Stadium for a playoff game.
 
2004-11-06 04:53:11 PM  


GO CATS
 
2004-11-06 04:53:24 PM  
I told you:

GOD LOVES THE AGGIES!
 
2004-11-06 04:54:44 PM  
Hotty Toddy, CruJones
 
2004-11-06 04:54:52 PM  
I've got to find a college without a football team...
 
2004-11-06 04:56:00 PM  
un-farking-believable

4-1 on your 29 yd line
punt fake for 71 yd TD

WHOOOP!!!!


/28-14 now
 
2004-11-06 04:57:19 PM  
YouthCultureSucks

Try Texas A&M, they only think they have a football team!

Hook 'em!
 
2004-11-06 04:58:02 PM  
 
2004-11-06 04:58:09 PM  
Division 1-A football is the only college sport where the champion is not completely determined by athletic competiton.

Every time a sportscaster praises the BCS, god kills a kitten. For God's sake, and for college football's sake, think of the kittens.
 
2004-11-06 04:58:23 PM  
YouthCultureSucks -

Try Christian Brothers Univ.

Undefeated in football for 100 years!
 
2004-11-06 04:59:22 PM  
monster87

Remember who beat the Farmers last week?

My Red Raiders are currently kicking the ever loving dog shiat out of them...

See you on the 13th...
 
2004-11-06 05:00:56 PM  
I'm an Aggies and Ducks fan today
 
2004-11-06 05:04:14 PM  
Every tech girl I've ever known was certifiably insane.

Attachment issues, intimacy issues, financial issues.

And we're going to destroy Tech. Why in gods name go to school in Lubbock? Maybe because it's closer to Colorado skiing. I don't know.
 
2004-11-06 05:08:22 PM  
best logo




best stadium



best mascot



hottest cheerleaders



did i forget anything...
 
2004-11-06 05:09:20 PM  
[b]olddinosaur[/b] - Well, good! Glad to hear that, my opinion has changed.
 
2004-11-06 05:09:37 PM  
The worst thing besides the BCS is a total lack of parity. It's the same teams in the hunt every year. Boring.

There is more parity in pro wrestling.
 
2004-11-06 05:12:54 PM  
dmd: Cal's "one loss" was a verry narrow one, away, to the number one college team in the nation (and the best team at any level in California).
 
2004-11-06 05:15:17 PM  
Christian Brothers? They don't even have a football team do they? Or was that the point. I'm too lazy to read the whole thread.

/Hotty Toddy
 
2004-11-06 05:18:18 PM  
Bigtimmy
Who says I think Michigan and Wisconsin will be co-champs? Check profile for image relating to that belief.
 
2004-11-06 05:19:10 PM  
Dawg47

No, Notre Dame doesn't only need a Top 10 finish or 9 wins. You appear to have forgotten that a Top 10 Notre Dame with 10 wins was left out the BCS only two years ago.

You've completely misunderstood the rules. That rule applies only applies to when there is a non-BCS conference team, other than Notre Dame, finishes in the Top 6. Guess how often that happens. When it doesn't apply (i.e., every year), Notre Dame gets no special treatment.

So stop saying Notre Dame's stealing bids. It is not, and cannot, except under very rare circumstacnes.
 
2004-11-06 05:20:19 PM  
Cal is heading for a second loss if they don't get it together against the Ducks
 
2004-11-06 05:20:24 PM  
bawanaal

I'm with you. Granted, I played for a 1A high school in Indiana, but we knew we'd never play in college. Hell, I think like only 5 of us from the team actually went to college. Even though my friend Jeff played safety at UK. He didn't do too bad either.

/maybe I coulda made it
//not in a million years
 
2004-11-06 05:21:06 PM  
Notre Dame is done. With ESPN and all the other networks covering so many other teams, the allure to play for ND is gone. You used to have to play there to get on TV. Not anymore. Add to that the fact that it is freaking cold, and why would a big time player go there?
 
2004-11-06 05:21:33 PM  
CruJones-

Yeah, that was the point.

And fark Ole Miss, Taylor Grocery and Oxford in that order.
 
2004-11-06 05:29:33 PM  
1. The only good thing about the BCS is it keeps things interesting - suddenly I care about Oregon-Cal, Utah vs. whomever, etc. etc. And I don't mean in the sterile watching NFL games way, we're talking enemy of my enemy stuff.

2. The Heisman has lost its way - it's only a popularity contest for skill position players on national championship contending teams. Where are the defensive candidates?
 
2004-11-06 05:32:02 PM  
ND needs to suck it up and admit they aren't the special shiat they used to be - time to join the Big 10
 
2004-11-06 05:38:00 PM  
I don't know too much about football in the States so everything I say is probably only applicable to Australia - although I have a sneaking suspicion, given the type of people who play football, that it's probably valid in other countries too. In Australia, football is an important part of our culture and footballers are elevated to the status of demigods. That's not such a bad thing until you consider precisely HOW they've achieved this status - by kicking a funny shaped ball around a patch of grass. When it comes to kicking a funny shaped ball around a patch of grass, I'm sure these guys are doing a bang-up job but surely there are people in our society who deserve more kudos and respect than footballers. Recently, a number of footballers from major codes have been accused of rape. When asked to justify their actions, fans of the game, their colleagues and families point to the 'amorous women' who popular football subculture. Hang on, I thought there was a difference between consensual sex and rape. To me, this hints at a much larger problem that exists within Australian football culture - the way that footballers treat women. As Phil Clearly notes: "The stories of groups of men on the rampage, the cover-ups and the institutionalised belief that women who have sex are sluts whereas the men are studs: that's the football subculture. It's a sub culture in which some men have always believed that they have the rights of the Viking raiding party. However, unlike the women raped by the Norsemen it seems that amorous women who wander through the football sub culture can never be raped." Now I guess I'd better think about some good things...
 
2004-11-06 05:41:04 PM  
TenderBranson, add this to your best of list.

Best helmet...



I hate off weeks. But the way the scores are currently working out, the Wolverines will be moving up in the polls!
 
2004-11-06 05:53:12 PM  
Mechagimpy: I think the overtime rules need to move from the "bad" pile to the "good" one. College overtime is so much more exciting than sudden death NFL overtime.

My thoughts exactly. The writer's one mistake. The NFL overtime is the one that can drag on forever, plus, it's less fair, because the team winning the toss can get a couple first downs, and kick a field goal to end it without a chance for the other team to tie or beat it. The college one is much better.
 
2004-11-06 06:00:51 PM  
aerojockey

ND is eligible for at-large consideration at lower rank than other teams are, in part because of the $$$ they bring for advertisers and others. as for 2002, notre dame was 9th in the final standings, and lost their last game to USC (10-2) by 31 points. southern cal got one of the 2 at-larges that year by finishing 4th in the rankings and winning their last 7 games. iowa (one loss) got the other by finishing 5th in the standings, winning their last 9 games and sharing the big11 title with unbeaten ohio state. you didn't get "passed over." you got left out because of two teams with far better resumes.

the point remains: a notre dame team around 10th is a better bet for a bid than another team rated 7th when it comes time to pick the at-larges, unless the team ahead of ND has some specific edge (like a head-to-head win) that would make the bowl look bad for taking the irish.
 
2004-11-06 06:08:01 PM  
I call BS on those saying 30,000 fans at Boise State is not as important as 90,000 fans at, say, Florida State. Okay, fine. Big numbers. But think of it this way: Those 30,000 at Boise State are going to be loud and raucous no matter what the Broncos do. It's a good home-field advantage for them. Meanwhile, a lot of big-name school fanbases, like Florida State, are going to get awfully quiet if the Seminoles get picked off a couple times. Bye bye home field.

And you can argue that the bigger schools need the crowd more than smaller schools do. Let's take Boise St. vs. Florida St...
*At Boise State. The Broncos are looking for some respect. In the WAC, you're always looking for respect. Beating the Seminoles is going to be just about the biggest feather in their cap that most Broncos are going to have in their entire lives. And you've got that home-field full of Boise State fans, some of whom are traveling for hundreds of miles just for this game. The Seminoles are freaked. Advantage Boise State. And if Florida State should get the early lead, the Boise crowd won't give up. They'll just cheer louder.
*At Florida State: Those 30,000 original Boise State fans are going to make the trek to Gainesville to throw down with the Florida State fans, and will try to turn it into Boise South. The Florida State crowd will be just as loud... unless the Broncos manage to score first. Then they quiet down. They weren't expecting these hicks from Idaho to do that. If they do, the momentum will shift. And remember, the Broncos still have the motivation to take down Florida State because they're Florida State. The advantage could go either way.
 
2004-11-06 06:14:04 PM  
Ok.. GO BOISE STATE BRONCOS. BEST winning streak in the nation. Look it up. :)
 
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