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(Local6)   High school students accused of hacking into computer, changing grades, watching too many 80s movies   (local6.com) divider line 103
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2004-11-06 12:16:13 AM
Hello Professor Falken.

Would you like to play a game?

/best. nerd movie. ever.
 
2004-11-06 12:56:34 AM
A P P L E
 
2004-11-06 12:58:43 AM
Save Ferris?
 
2004-11-06 12:58:56 AM
"Buller. Buller. Buller. Anyone. Buller."

/Another great 80's movie.
 
2004-11-06 12:59:04 AM
The school district has hired security experts from Microsoft to make sure the computers will be secure from any future hackings.

What a way to shoot yourself in the foot.
 
2004-11-06 12:59:45 AM
2 claps for the headline, got a quick chuckle out of it.
 
2004-11-06 01:00:38 AM
Nice... more ways for the media to demean the term "hackers". Bah... these morons are crackers. And I don't mean skinny white boys.
 
2004-11-06 01:01:21 AM
Trojaned the admins computers...I guess that's OK. Made it pretty easy for them to get caught, though. And they should have changed other brainy-but-underachieving students' grades, too. It's kind of incriminating when there's a break-in and the only grade changed is your failing grade in English.
 
2004-11-06 01:02:57 AM
The school district has hired security experts from Microsoft to make sure the computers will be secure from any future hackings.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa....

(Breath)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....

(chuckle)
(Breath)

Hahahahaha...ha.....hah..... ha...

ha.

ha..

Phew....
 
2004-11-06 01:03:10 AM
Uhoh. The microsoft goons are going to protect the system. Now those hackers are REALLY in trouble.
...props to the first who posts an Oliver wendal jones pic...
 
2004-11-06 01:04:18 AM
specifically, "Gorbachev declares turnips! Buttocks!"
 
2004-11-06 01:04:31 AM
no harm done
 
2004-11-06 01:04:55 AM
Just shows you that security is at most, relative, and maybe impossible. If little Jimmy can hack his school's computers so easily shouldn't they just get away from putting everything on computers? Schools are just reaching for a Utopia of everything being integraded and wireless that they have holes in security and kids will exploit it. I would have if I could have gotten away with it.

Way to go getting caught though you dumbasses.
 
2004-11-06 01:05:35 AM
i did this in high school, but instead of changing grades i just moved all the files onto a Mac and locked them. we had just gotten a couple dual 2Ghz G5s in the graphics labs and over the network i could see and access EVERY file on EVERY windows computer on the network. oh the fun of high school.
 
2004-11-06 01:06:36 AM
NarrMaster

You totally beat me to it.... first thing I thought of when I read that...
 
2004-11-06 01:06:59 AM
Man, I am so stoned right now...I feel pretty good. I thought I'd share that with everyone on fark. I think my face is melting.

Will somebody post some boobies?
 
2004-11-06 01:09:10 AM
Crash and burn!
 
2004-11-06 01:09:23 AM
Pats on the back to NarrMaster who obviously needs them. Try to think of something sad, like a power outage just when the battery in your UPS fails.

In my day, not that long ago in geological terms, we didn't have computers to hack into, so had to content ourselves with hacking into the safe in the school office.
 
2004-11-06 01:09:33 AM
lazymojo

stoner posting in a hacking thred, imagine that....
 
2004-11-06 01:09:38 AM
The students have been removed from the school and face potential expulsion.

Expulsion? Is that really necessary?

Don't get me wrong, what the kids did was certainly wrong and should be punished. But this seems to me more like a "I bet you couldn't/I bet I could" sorta stupid thing that high school kids do. Everyone seems to have their panties in a wad over the fact that the kids could've viewed sensitive personal information, but really, all they did was change their grades.

My whole damn geography class was caught cheating on the daily quizes back when I was in high school (the teacher had photocopied these quizes which had the answers on them and then blacked out the answers - not realizing they still lined up with the correct answers, making his efforts fruitless). He got pissed, but he didn't expel everyone in the class. I suppose this is a bit different, but really, c'mon. At least the kids are showing some enthusiasm (and some skill) at something. They just need to have it directed in a more positive fashion (to sound horribly cliched).
 
2004-11-06 01:10:43 AM
so that's where Crash n' Burn went to school...
 
2004-11-06 01:11:54 AM
MaxMouse strikes again.


2000 points for whoever gets the reference.

Somebody has to.
 
2004-11-06 01:12:38 AM
The suspicious activity wasn't uncovered until just over two weeks ago.

"A teacher noticed that she thought that a grade had been changed," said Sheldon High School principal Paula Duncan.


Well, gee, with incontrovertible proof like that, there's no way anyone can challenge the school. These kids are obviously psychopaths and should be killed.
 
2004-11-06 01:12:42 AM
Back in middle school (wow, YEARS ago), we had just gotten a new computer room. All IBM PS/2s on a token ring, all DOS apps, including WordPerfect, etc. Everything was run off a menu system that was actually pretty secure. If you did good work, the teacher gave you a floppy that had some games on. You stuck in the floppy, and it automagically loaded. I took one home to look at, and noticed a g.bat on it. I made my own basic floppy, and made a g.bat that called command.com. Went back to school, popped it in, wow, command line! Broke out trusty old Norton Commander to look through the directories, and wow, there was one that had hundreds of filenames, each named after user account. I found mine, looked at it in hex mode, and amazingly the password was kept plain text! Wrote down the offset, started going through other people's files. Found the principals, who had a password of 'mind'.

Never did anything with it. But, wow, it seemed so easy in the olden days, before security started being built into everything (even as an afterthought to an afterthought like Windows products).
 
2004-11-06 01:12:43 AM
I remember the good ole days, where a bottle of liquid paper and a felt-tip pen would do exactly the same trick on your take home school report. Although I never actually needed to do that, as books were my friends...

/sobs
 
2004-11-06 01:13:00 AM


/mmm
 
2004-11-06 01:13:40 AM
50half

lazymojo

stoner posting in a hacking thred, imagine that....

Chill out uptight guy. Geez man, go to Alaska and vote against a medicinal marijuana bill or something. I'm not a hacker, and I'm not a stoner. Coincidentally, I decided to post some shiat on the most recent fark link (after smoking some shiat for the first time in quite some time), and it happened to be a link involving nerds hacking into their grade school "Apple IIe's" er that's what I had in grade school.

I would've rather posted on a boobies link man. They tend to be much more enlightening.

 
2004-11-06 01:14:14 AM
when I was in HS i got banned from the computers for having a farking video on my user drive which was a marijuana spoof. The admin said that was basis for a drug test and all sorts of shiat. I never gave him a drop of piss for a test and I got my big italian mamma to yell at him. OH IT GETS BETTER! i was suspeneded from the computers for 2 weeks but was taking a course in visual basic. I wasn't allowed to use the computers for the VB class basically making my class time uselss. I said fark them because i needed to get my work one and was falling behind and used my gf (at the time)'s account and then was accused "of circumventing system security" and banned for the rest of the year. Let's give it up for school computers!
 
2004-11-06 01:15:37 AM
 
2004-11-06 01:15:55 AM
Jesus! Their semester better be over. Think about it; change the grades after the teacher has graded the final and entered it into the computer. The teacher doesn't look at that semesters grades ever again. that "A" in English shows up on your transcript, and gives you the credit to pass class. Bunch of dumb farks.

And ooooohhhhhh. They used a keylogger. Big deal. I think the schools could save a bunch of money by oh, say USING A DIFFERENT COMPUTER FOR GRADES. It's not that hard. Back in my day, we would use acoustic couplers to log into the schools mainframe with my Tandy 800. Wouln't have passed computer science without it.


Ah, acoustic couplers...
 
2004-11-06 01:16:33 AM
confound it! image worked in preview!
 
2004-11-06 01:17:15 AM
"Security experts from MicroSoft" gave me quite a laugh also. I truly believe MS should take dial-up networking off their products. Dial up was too slow to update the 2 XP machines on my workbench, but plenty fast enough to download ~ 40 viruses and hundreds of malware programs. I may have to call a HazMat team out for those hard drives.
 
2004-11-06 01:23:11 AM
lazymojo

uptight guy, dude im just as ripped as you i gaurntee. chill not bad mouthing you or your weed.
 
2004-11-06 01:26:24 AM
"How can anyone get a 'D' in Home Ec?" -- David Lightman
 
2004-11-06 01:27:47 AM
When I was in high school I was enrolled in AP Hack the Network (aka AP Computer Programming). There were six of us and the network admin (a nice but hopelessly overworked man) would try all these new security features and ask us to try and circumvent them (he trusted us). A couple minutes later you'd here, "Done...Done...Got it." He'd grumble and trudge off to try and fix it.

We very easily managed to get root and access to everything and I do mean everything. Plain text password files? Bad idea. We tried to tell them what needed to be changed but at that point we were graduating and no one really cared.

Two years later they busted a group of kids who were charging to change grades. The kids offered to show them how to fix the system, even with their punishments. School wouldn't let them. Network still woefully unsecure.
 
2004-11-06 01:28:54 AM
The 386 next to my friend wouldn't pass POST due to a borked floppy drive, so I disabled it in the BIOS. The lab 'technician' happened to be passing by when I was doing it and reported me to the principal for hax0ring or something. I'd like to say I was shocked, but I'd heard her before telling the typing class prof that rolling the platen on the dot-matrix printer would break it. Yeah.
 
2004-11-06 01:30:14 AM
Whoa. Story writer is being just a bit sensational there. This article reeks of inanity:

"used stolen passwords to hack into the system"

So if a kid found the combination to another kid's bike and used the combo to steal the bike, that would be 'hacking'?

Ah...no.

Social engineering, perhaps, but only the same type of social engineering used to steal cookies froma cookie jar. Yeesh. Asshat teacher and administration need implement a modicum of security measures, which would eliminate the password-scribbled-on-Post-It-note.

And on an only slightly related note, it's truly sad that Wargames is still the best 'hacker' movie. Why Hollywood can't get it right is beyond me, but it appears that most script writers and directors have a better familiarity with silicone than silicon.
 
2004-11-06 01:30:42 AM
tidal

I never gave him a drop of piss for a test and I got my big italian mamma to yell at him. OH IT GETS BETTER!

Hahahahahahahaha! You are a God! Hahahahaha! Oh, boy! Oh, oh man, that's funny! Hahahahaha, you're killing me! Haha!

/All night
 
2004-11-06 01:32:21 AM
Heh. Security systems such as these ones are for the most part, a complete joke. A few years back, my younger brother (just had turned 11), during 6th grade computer class, made it on to the school's network. On the way, copied some logon scripts to disc, to prove to one of his friends that he could do it. Teachers found out and our family ended up getting slapped with a $2500 lawsuit. Blah.

Did it in like 6 keystrokes, too. Needless to say, everything ran right off Windows.
 
2004-11-06 01:33:09 AM
gunblade
but are the 2000 points worth the public humiliation of admitting you watched GhostWriter?
 
2004-11-06 01:38:57 AM
The school district has hired security experts from Microsoft to make sure the computers will be secure from any future hackings.

...until the next 'sploit gets splattered across the intarweb. How about throwing all of the Windows-based crap away and implementing an OS X or Linux-based network?

Oh that's right...too many 'gifts' from Micro$oft.
 
2004-11-06 01:40:47 AM
I passed a Computer Science I test in HS by writing my program to access the network, get another student's file (since the program had to be named the same) and write it to a local file, then check it out and see what I'm doing wrong.

//also stopped going to "C and UNIX" in college halfway through the semester, got a C+ without turning anything in
 
2004-11-06 01:47:09 AM
security experts from Microsoft

Is that an oxymoron?

Or do the teachers need to learn that password is not a good password.
 
2004-11-06 01:47:35 AM
When I was in high school, I worked for the network administrator (I was the nerdy kid who helped with everything) for my district. It got me out of class whenever I wanted -- "oh, the printer's down in the such and such lab, I'll go fix it" -- so I had tons of freedom.

I also got to explore the miracles of NetWare and whatnot. I was remotely logged into the elementary school to see if there was anything I wanted to play with, and a girl had been watching me to see how it was done. Later, she used what she'd seen me do to start spamming broadcast messages across the entire network.

I ended up getting in trouble for being watched. I don't remember what my punishment was, but I refused to help fix anything for a few weeks and suddenly they loved me again.
 
2004-11-06 01:53:03 AM
Sounds like the techs that ran the school district need to be handed pink slips for being dumbasses.
 
2004-11-06 01:59:15 AM
DemonTriscuit:

ghostwriter was awesome!!

*nerd, and proud^.^
 
2004-11-06 02:00:44 AM
Demontriscut
WTF are you talking about? Ghostwriter kicked ass... well, at least the first season did.
 
2004-11-06 02:03:38 AM
The school district has hired security experts from Microsoft to make sure the computers will be secure from any future hackings.

Hahahahahahaha
 
2004-11-06 02:14:47 AM
Yes it is funny that the school decided to hire experts from Mr. Softie to aid in their security issues...but here's the big question

why do they have student SSN data? I mean...isn't that just asking for trouble?

/a local state rep here in columbus refused to give worthington schools her daughter's SSN...they even kept asking the student over and over again. she graduated without ever given them her SSN.
 
2004-11-06 02:16:46 AM
DemonTriscuit

Only if I get to take somebody down with me.
 
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