Welcome to 13th century conservatard America.

No no, please keep poking fun, we'd be bashing the hell out of the backwards redneck jesus boys if Kerry won. Well, hell, guess I will either way.

Oh, as for Cell phone users, if you look at the county polls for Fairfax/Arlington/Alexandria area (Up north, right next to Virginia) you can see those areas were overwhelmingly Kerry and what were originally causing Zogby the say that Virginia could be an upset yesterday. Bummer, redneck Virginia keeps Virginia in the joke category again.

Where can I find out how many votes Badnarik got total?

ANNOYED
I can only hope things turn out as bad as we fear.

Wow, that well? I don't fear the future, I look forward to it. Hopefully things will turn out for each person as they expect. That way, you will die.

Hey, Annoyed, yes, everyone else is stupid and wrong, and you are smart and right.

You are the last bastion of intelligence in this American sea of idiocy.

/sarcasm

You may deserve something horrible, but I sure as hell don't.

"Moderate, progressive leadership" - I say wrong on all three.

If only Kerry had some kind of war experience

ANNOYED,
I don't think I will regret voting in this election. My biggest concern prior was court judges both in the Supreme and Federal courts. The blocking that was done to Bush appointees was wrong. An up or down vote was warranted. Kerry appointees in my opinion would be the types to legislate from the bench, that isn't their job. If you want to take an interpretation of the constitution (not a living document) that isnt written there, then change it through the legislative branch. The founding fathers wrote it to be able to change and evolve. I look forward to Judges who will stay in their own realm of expertise.

The President who has received more votes than any other presidential candidate ever, is currently giving his acceptance speech.

I'm a Libertarian who voted for Badnarik. I don't smoke pot. I'm just one of those nuts who believes in personal freedom. Individuals should decide if they want to smoke pot, drink, or smoke tobacco...not the government. Legalize it, tax it, and regulate it, just like tobacco and alcohol. What's the big deal?

Arnold, One result I found:

John Kerry, Dem 55,003,096 - 48 percent
George W. Bush, GOP (i) 58,547,003 - 51 percent
Ralph Nader, Ind 391,915 - 0 percent
Michael Badnarik, Lib 374,290 - 0 percent
Michael Peroutka, CST 128,722 - 0 percent
David Cobb, Grn 104,352 - 0 percent

its all in good fun sid-

it would be the same picture but instead of it saying 'liberals' it would say 'conservatives'

i didn't vote in this election- i had no real reason to.

i didnt feel strongly about either guy- so while i voted in my local state elections- i had a nice fat abstention block filled in for president.

I just like taunting losers- people take politics way to seriously.

/just a thought.

Tyee -

How long have you been secretly in love with the President? Ain't you gonna call his wife and at least tell her she has some competition?

DaNightTripper,
I also am a Libertarian, I voted Bush. I live in a swing state. I couldn't afford to have my vote taken away from the lesser of the two evils.

Lamb,
Having a tough day eh? Well you're bringing it down on yourself. If it's any consolation I went through eight years of hell too, punctuated by perjury. You'll get over it, I found it's best not to let it fester, and drink heavily.

DaNightTripper -

Legalize it, tax it, and regulate it, just like tobacco and alcohol. What's the big deal?

They got the corporate whores for alcohol, tobacco and firearms... You got any corporate whores?

You are part of why Kerry lost and you know it.

Oh cmon, you think it's healthy to have such admiration for another man? Call her. She deserves to know!

Thanks wldncrzy14.

Do it for me Joey, it's long distance for me. You will like her, she a real sweet lady... you like ladies don't you?

> Couldn't be a better time for a third party to rise up. Need a popular Republican or
> Democrat to leave their party and join the Libertarians.

Is Bob Barr popular? (linked from http://www.lpgeorgia.com/) http://badnarik.org/supporters/blog/2004/10/22/straying-from-the-herd-barr-the -contrarian-says-hes-going-libertarian/

/Wooo, check out that Statue of Liberty animation...

You are trying to prostitute me for your latent needs? Okay, email her then!

Couldn't be a better time for a third party to rise up. Need a popular Republican or
> Democrat to leave their party and join the Libertarians.


Or even a non-politician. So this this begs the question, Who would make the best third-party candidate?

JoshG
"While they may hold popular positions on many things, rational people still see the a valid role for the state to play. Like the issuance of driver's licenses, or the funding of school lunches and public universities. Any soi-disant libertarian that actually reads their party's platform and agrees with it is a fruitcake."

umm you might want to read that platform again fruitcake, the whole purpose of the Libertarian Party is to return functions to the state government that have been usurped by the feds. So obviously we still see a valid role for the state to play too..

// sad no other libertarian pointed this out
// wonders how many have actually read the platform

<b>LambSlaughter:</b>

Congrats, you just made my brain throw up.

What makes you think I have any latent needs. By the time FOX NEWS announced Ohio went to Bush the sweat and froth and other bodily fluids which began flowing with from the FLA announcement was.....I am sorry Mrs. Tyee probably wouldn't like me to go there. Lets just say there is nothing more satisfying than knowing you are ruling the free world.

Hebalo:

best libertarian candidate would be Penn Jillete of Penn & Teller.

whether it'd ever happen is something else entirely.

Another non-drug-using Libertarian here. Although after this election, I'm thinking of taking up the habit. ;^> Well, now that Bush will be done after a 2nd term....I can only hope for 2 weak candidates from the big parties so we can get some other guy on the radar.

Badnarick just barely came in behind Nader....not bad for (as posted earlier) sparse media coverage, and he's from Texas. Maybe we can court the ex-Bush vote next time around?

</puff puff>

Regardless of your partisanship or lack thereof, high voter turnouts should give you patriotic stiffies.

I'm 18, been registered to vote since the week after my birthday last November. I've voted in two of the three elections we've had since then. The one I didn't vote in, I had just moved into the town, so I didn't feel like I was educated enough on what was going on to make a decent decision on the mayor and the school board.

Just so you don't wonder, yes I voted yesterday.

Current election results

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/elections/2004/page/295001/

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2004/11/11-03-04tdc/11-03-04dnews-12b2.jp g

Proud to be a PSU student now. 5,500 or so voters registered to the campus precincts, half of them had voted by 6pm. That's with two hours left. And a couple hundred on line. Voter turnout by registered voters then is about on par with the national average.

Not sure what proportion of people are registered. There are about 40,000 people who go to PSU main campus. I think about half live on campus. If you add in another 1500 people (rough, out-of-the-ass estimate) who are registered to vote off campus despite living on campus (like me) and who voted absentee, and assume they voted with equal percentage as those on campus, that's a 21% turnout overall. Not great, but double the 10% there.

Oh, and btw, that picture up there... is of about 1/4 of the line's length. And it gets wider as it gets closer to the polls.

Doh... meant to include this picture last time.

LambSlaughter:

And you are part of why the human race is losing. And I think you know it, too.

Real libertarians don't vote. Real libertarianism=market anarchism. All else is cowardly compromise.

Media coverage of candidates seems to be directly proportional to the number of votes they receive. fark the media, fark the CPD, and fark the people who let their TV's do all their thinking for them.

Just so ya'll know, I'm 19, I went out and voted for Kerry. I live in Texas though, so it was almost a waste of time, but at least the vote counts in the national popular vote. To be honest, I'm kind of suprised Bush won this election. Seems like every person I meet didn't want Bush in the white house, but according to the results, every other person want's him in.