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(ScienceDaily)   Study: R-rated movies make teens drink, smoke.   ( divider line
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2002-02-19 07:45:42 AM  
I have a lower account number....and I never apologize...LoL!! J/k This is farking gay! Ya, watching a movie made me wanna drink and smoke..the fact that my parents drank and smoked infront of me my whole life had nothing to do with it.
2002-02-19 07:47:33 AM  
I'm sorry, but I have a lower account number. America made me want to drink and smoke. I'm suing.
2002-02-19 08:00:24 AM  
Ran a video store for 10 years and screened(fastforwardedmost) vides checking for language,sex,violence,nudity etc prior to putting out for rent. Trust me, there isn't any objective reasoning for the ratings. My rule was no R rated vides to anyone under 16. My thought was a 16 year old could drive anywhere an see anything. However there were some parents who do did care what their children saw and did have household rules. Many asked about the language only saying they could censure what little Johnny & Susie saw but not what they heard! When I refused to rent "R" rated a great many just went and got their parents to rent them for them.

Now do movies have an influence? What a stupid thing to study! Is there no common sense anymore? When the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles can out every little tyke was karate-chopping everyone else. AND SEX scenes don't want you or make you want to fark, it's the popcorn.
2002-02-19 08:02:25 AM  
Danger Will Robinson!: A water bra is a bra has pouches of water in them to make women's boobies look bigger...similar to the type of thing that Titney Spears uses to mystify us as to how her boobies get bigger....then smaller....then bigger...then smaller again. =)
2002-02-19 08:04:00 AM  
Damn you Goatman264! Damn you straight to hell...where they will offer you a nice warm beer and a smoke upon entry =D
2002-02-19 08:10:10 AM  
I was an american teenager who never wanted to smoke or drink until I saw my first R rated movie "Gladiator" and now I can't get enough booze and smokes!! Thank you Ridley Scott!!
2002-02-19 08:31:04 AM  
As a 21 year old, I really could give a crap about the ratings. If it looks good, I'll go see it, if it looks like crap, I won't. Is that so hard?

If you all need ratings, go to CAP, and it'll tell you EXACTLY what's in the flick.
2002-02-19 09:40:25 AM  
Study: R-rated movies make teens drink, smoke.
Study: Jobs make adults drink, smoke.
Study: Having no job makes adults drink, smoke.
Study: Being a spoiled prince makes teens drink, smoke.
2002-02-19 09:40:47 AM  
I agree with Marlas and Bcp. I worked in a movie theater for about three years and video store as well. Ratings system is crap.
Parents used to pull up and drop their kids off. When I wouldn't sell tickets to whichever Friday the 13th was out at that time (85-88) to a 10 yr old and sent him away. His asshole dad had the kid hold the door open so he could yell from his car it was okay for the kid to watch it.
I can't remember where I read it, using Fark as a verb, adjective or other descriptive term "this farking car", etc you get up to three before it's an R but use it once as in "I want to fark (insert various farkette name) here. Instant R.
2002-02-19 09:51:53 AM  
Please disregard last post due to high FARK account number... had a life until recently. Disregard this one too.
2002-02-19 09:51:58 AM  
When I was in high school, it wasn't the movies that gave me a reason to drink and smoke. I had parents, and they were reason enough.
2002-02-19 09:52:41 AM  
I disagree with some earlier statements: there are two ways to stop underage drinking and smoking. First, you could eliminate the age limit, that way no one is underage. Or you could get everyone to stop drinking and smoking in front of kids. The former shouldn't happen and the latter won't, so who cares.

As far as the study, if these guys are getting $3.6 million for research I demand that the research be halted and I get about 12 cents additional on my tax refund, cause these guys are clueless.
2002-02-19 10:04:39 AM  
R-rated movies make me pour
pudding into my pants.
2002-02-19 10:07:20 AM  
Did anyone else notice that they just asked the kids whether they drank or smoked, and just took their word for it?

This doesn't show that watching R-rated movies makes you drink, it shows that watching R-rated movies makes you less afraid to SAY you drink.

Big difference. So unscientific it kills me.

I'm with Gma. I want my money back.
2002-02-19 10:10:47 AM  
This has got to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Both my parents drink and smoke, but I don't. I've lived with them for 20 years, and well, I don't smoke, but I do enjoy the occasional mixes. What the hell does R Rated mean anyways? That beer and ciggs are in the movie? Man I've seen movies rated G that has beer and ciggs. Doesn't Disney's Bueaty and the Beast have a scene in a pub? What the hell do they think about that?
2002-02-19 10:13:20 AM  
It seems for a long time through the 80's and part of the 90's they didn't show people smoking a lot in films. Now there seems to be a lot more of it in films like "Beautiful Mind" and that Crowe movie with Meg Ryan... Anyone else notice this?
2002-02-19 10:14:50 AM  
Funniest time I saw kids in a movie theater...

5 Little 10 year olds snuck into Saving Private Ryan. The opening shot.

2 of the kids puked. It was funny until the smell wafted up.
2002-02-19 10:27:29 AM  
platoon and scarface were life changing movies for me, i realised i wanted to live a life with big big guns, beautiful women and lots of drugs.

so far i got the drugs part down pat.
2002-02-19 10:53:21 AM  
That makes ME sick. I know someone who went to see it opening day and some idiots dragged a five year old in. The poor kid was sobbing that they didn't want to see it and they cried and wailed through the first 30 minutes before one of the parents finally started yelling and took the kid outside. Poor thing.
2002-02-19 11:09:35 AM  
This study is stupid. It shows that there's a correlation. that's all.

There is a LINK between kids who see R-rated movies and kids who drink and smoke.

Maybe parents who let their kids watch movies underage don't do a good enough job to stop the kids from doing it.

Maybe the kids LIED.

If you're going to spend 3.6 million bucks then spend it in ways to STOP smoking and reduce under-age drinking.

In Quebec most 'R' rated films are rated PG-13. The next level is 16+ (like NC-17 but for sixteen year olds) but almost no movies get that. After that it's 18+ and that's only for movies like pornos and films like Eyes Wide Shut.

Event Horizon got a 16+, I think, because it showed this woman naked with her body all cut up and her eye sockets empty. Plus, all the rest of the violence.

I actually couldn't believe it when I was visiting my cousins in Philly and saw the Matrix was rated R.
2002-02-19 11:18:15 AM  
I personally thought the Matrix was pretty tame for an R. Yeah, there was a lot of blood, but none of it wa real, not even in the movie. Other than that, nothing I can remember particularly objectionable about it.
2002-02-19 11:32:48 AM  
I disagree. I drink most after watching a PG-rated Olsen Twins movie.
Go Figure.
2002-02-19 11:54:17 AM  
Actually, the funniest thing about the Matrix being R is that apparently, part of the reason for it is that the MPAA said it had nudity in it. After I saw that, I was so curious to find it that I watched the film several more times (not that I minded doing that to such an amazing film), the only thing it could POSSIBLY be is that when Trinity and Neo are talking ear-to-ear in the bondage club, there's a girl in the background wearing what appears to be some sort of either dominatrix or slave outfit, which I think is open-chested. That's the only thing I could possibly think of, unless they're talking about Neo right after he gets "saved," when he falls into the river and the crane on the ship picks him up.
2002-02-19 12:02:19 PM  
This Just In:

A new study has found that 90% of all scientists have there heads so firmly inserted into their asses, that they are unable to determine if their studies are just producing random inane data or actual quantifiable evidence.
2002-02-19 12:07:08 PM  
Researchers from the Norris Cotton Cancer Center at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center, Dartmouth Medical School and Dartmouth College have identified a new strategy for parents who don't want their children to smoke or drink: don't let them watch R-rated movies.

Glad to see they're not wasting any time curing cancer or anything silly like that.

You want my opinion on why kids smoke and drink? Public schooling! I don't think I could have survived it sober.
2002-02-19 12:19:11 PM  
"The media made me do it"

What a bunch of farking bullshiat. People are responsible for their own actions.

-he who stacks pork
2002-02-19 12:45:27 PM  
As a teenager I can easily say that R rated movies make me want to smoke and screw, but so does video games, the nightly news, and the internet. I'm serious. I read The Importance of Being Earnst by Oscar Wilde and I wanted a smoke. So every damn thing in the universe makes me want to smoke and have sex. Damn you, you've finally done it!
2002-02-19 01:17:17 PM  
The news is so depressing anymore it would drive about anybody to drink.
2002-02-19 01:26:35 PM  
Welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, well.
2002-02-19 01:40:57 PM  
*wakes up and reads comments*

Clarkins, even when I was floor staff I would pull a straight biatch on those kids and their parents. If they couldn't get their lazy arses into the theatre to see it with their kids then no ticket for them! 3;^)
What really peeves me is when a parent will drag their three year old to go see something violent like The Players Club, Black Hawk Down, or Ghost of Mars. They then leave half way through it, demand their money back and complain that their kid couldn't handle it. WTF ??? Pulling that should be an automatic grounds for an interview with DSS. Dumb farkers...

My favorite recent quote in reguards to Black Hawk Down:
"I didn't think it was going to be that bloody."

I must say though the glowing joy of the evening is when I kick out a kid and the adult that bought them the ticket. * even though they're in no way related* Yes I'm a sick psychotic manager but then again they're stupid for even attempting it in the first place.

BTW, got to new poster for Jason X. It looks...o.k. The story line is very lame though. It's one of those " the d@amn kids shouldn't have gone there in the first place" plot lines.
2002-02-19 01:41:39 PM  
well the rating system has improved over the years, Texas Chainsaw Massacre originaly tried to get a PG rating rather than R because back then PG-13 did n0t exsist
2002-02-19 02:02:14 PM  


Red blood ALWAYS gets you the PG-13, but when the color is changed to green or purple or whatever the gore is considered "worse" and gets an R rating. I remeber this from when they interviewed the guy who made the trauma films...

Come on now those films pretty much get an automatic R. :) It is guaranteed that there will be some horribly disgusting element to those films. Honesatly when it come to films like Toxic Avenger and Tromeo and Juliet the ratings board looks at the studio and the name and then slaps an R rating on it.

..he had to make green slime and guts and stuff because thats the only way he could get an R rating. Even if it WAS just back then, thats around the time STIII was made (I think)..

Acutally I and the other Farker originally talking about Star Trek films ment to say Star Trek V. My bad. Even so, it's not like it was an imparment on his films to have to put the slime and stuff in it. The fan base for those films prob expects no less than that.

so even if it dosent apply now, didnt it apply back when it came out?

PG-13 blood is like a light cut on the forehead, a skinned knee or a bloddy nose. Nothing too deep or deathly... A recent example of this is John Q. There is a major scene that involves a hostage and blood. Not to give anything more away but the hostage has a broken nose a few bruises and a cut on his check. That's the bloodiest thing you see in the film. There is another scene that involves Eddie Griffin holding his guazed wrapped hand and implying that it's bleeding pretty badly, but you really don't see any blood.

Freaky shiat.

Off to the theatre! Yeee haw...
2002-02-19 02:03:02 PM  
Marlas_Cancer, Can I come work for you? I miss the movie theater business. Never gave refunds, gave a pass for another movie--Dickinson theaters--had to keep the money.
Best times were the 12am screening of the stuff opening Friday afternoon. Load the ice chests under the coke machine with beer and have a high old time.

I would have to say the scientists do have a point. I tried to watch Texas Chainsaw 2 or 3 (late 80's) and decided I was too sober
2002-02-19 02:32:42 PM  
Clarkins: It's not really that fun anymore. Theatre buisness is really getting it's arsed kicked plus my theatre chain merged with Regal Cinemas. That really really sucks..

...but hey we still do the 12am movie screenings though. :)
2002-02-19 03:02:34 PM  
Gee, seeing R-rated movies usually makes me see less R-rated movies. Is that how it's supposed to work?
2002-02-19 03:10:26 PM  
Movies are suckin lately...
2002-02-19 03:22:35 PM  
"Most parents underestimate the impact movies have on their children. This study clearly shows that adolescents are much more likely to smoke or drink if their parents let them watch R-rated movies"

This just in: Most studies underestimate the impact PARENTS have on there children.
2002-02-19 03:25:56 PM  
Marlas/Clarkins: I agree on the 12am showings, those were great times. There were occasionally times where employees got busted for bringing too many people to those, like we filled up a theatre or two for the X-Men and Bring It On screenings (my friends/coworkers on the cheerleading squad at their high school brought the ENTIRE squad- some 40 girls- for Bring It On... and I couldn't go because I had school the next morning, I was soooo pissed). The funniest one I can think of was there one of my best friends, who used to work at the same theatre I did, but now works at another, took me up to see Rock Star, and we didn't start it until 215 AM, so it got out at like 4. He had heard that some other employees were having a party in one of the smaller theatres, so we went in and talked to them... they had farking hotboxed a 200-seat auditorium! Literally, there was smoke throughout the entire thing, it was incredible. Those were the days......

PS: Marlas, how is it working for Loews (which is what merged with Regal, right, or was that UA?)? I worked for AMC, and my best friend works for Century. Last year we went up to the Sony (Loews) Metreon in San Francisco to watch Apoc Now Redux on their Imax screen, and then got a tour of both the normal and Imax projs afterwards. Considering we were both projectionists and so knew our stuff pretty well, they had brand-new shiat and Imax projs are amazing, but their setup sucked. It was still fun though.
2002-02-19 03:34:25 PM  
To clear this up, I was talking about "Star Trek VI (6): The Undiscovered Country."
2002-02-19 04:36:41 PM  
Let's review what we know:

1) People tend to imitate the actions that they observe. This is especially true for younger people, who are still trying to learn the proper way to act.

2) There are disproportionate amounts of of smoking, drinking, and violence in R-rated movies as compared to reality.

3) There is a positive correlation between the number of R-rated movies a child watches and the probability that that child will admit to having tried drinking or smoking.

I'm not sure I agree with someone who says "Well, it *could* be anything, so let's keep doing exactly what we were doing before." Maybe (3) is because of some other factors, like bad parenting or experimental error or something, but maybe it isn't. We have a model that makes sense, and data that support it. Now, I'm not advocating censorship, but I would suggest to those parents who honestly believe that the media has no effect on the behavior of their children that they think a little bit harder about parenting.
2002-02-19 05:18:43 PM  
The movies that caused me to drink and smoke were all Pauly Shore movies (little Savannah stealing no talent punk !)
2002-02-19 05:21:27 PM  
Marlas_Cancer--I'll just come for the 12 am screenings then. Free popcorn? Drop a candy bar on the floor, call it damaged and write it off--many suppers were had that way. Had way too many posters decorating my room too.

Bcp--Best time (I can remember) was Lost Boys in a 1000 seat theater. We had two chains in Springfield--Dickinson and AMC. AMC had a sixplex at the mall. Dickinson had them all over town. Anyway, Lost Boys turned up so loud that we could walk outside into the parking lot 300 feet away and still hear it.

Seal Hunter I agree with your logic and thought processes. However, I believe that #2 is incorrect as stated. There needs to be some modification--for example, yes, there are more acts of smoking, drinking, and violence in an R rated movie than in my house. But reality also is, in some places, there are less acts of smoking, drinking, violence in an R rated movie than in some households.
2002-02-19 06:12:08 PM  
They do? Then how come I don't drink or smoke...dumbasses
2002-02-19 06:38:09 PM  
Clarkins: nice, only time I can think of something similar was Final Fantasy (for some reason there's a TON of bass in that movie), or 3000 Miles to Graceland. We had Kevin Costner come, along with a bunch of other actors and studio people, for a private screening, and Costner's agent asked us to absolutely pump it. It was fun, he's a nice guy, and I was talking to his bodyguards for a while, I felt like such a dwarf compared to them, and I'm 6'2 240 (they were both above 6'5).
2002-02-19 09:01:42 PM  
wow, people seem to be really pissed off or touched by this article, I am seeing a lot of farkin' essays and paragraphs....just remmember...sweet and short...
2002-02-19 09:09:45 PM  
R ratings are such sait! Teens already know about everything that goes on in them anyway! So they're allowed to know about it, they're just not allowed to see it in a movie? Biatches!
2002-02-19 09:18:57 PM  
God knows, I'd trust any data that comes out of Dartmouth...
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