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2004-10-31 12:49:39 PM
I love how that guy is wearing camo, has his face painted green, but is carrying a huge flat black gun.
 
2004-10-31 12:50:05 PM
How can anyone not love anything with an effective range of over a mile!?!?

/still thinks I should've been issued one with or instead of bith certificate and SSN...
 
2004-10-31 12:50:49 PM
It's fun watching people shoot an 82A1 Barrett for the first time, it's really intimidating looking but there's not much kick at all. You can actually shoot it off the sling if you load up tracers. I can fire it off my shoulder, but it's pretty heavy and has a big lever arm on you, so you only get one or two shots that way and you just can't lift it anymore.

The shock wave coming off the muzzle brake, though, is like someone took a big pillow and wound up with it and smacked you in the head. Like saboisgod said, it makes you feel sort of hypoxic for a split second.

You know, I haven't pulled it out of the safe for a while. Think I will go get some discount pumpkins and spend the afternoon killing Samhain at the 600m range.

"stuff to avoid" trivia

They teach you to shoot an M1A by opening the shoulder prop, putting your left hand on top of the stock comb and sort of resting your nose on it to steady the rifle against the prop. Tip: don't do that with a Barrett. That's what that loop under the stock is for, to get your hand out of the way. If you do it the other way, there will be a big cloud of nose blood that goes flying. And it hurts like a sumbiatch. You won't do it but once.

hardy-r-r
the legend we were told was within about 6 inches and you'd start getting shock wave damage to flesh. I don't know if it is true or a "this ain't no shiat" story, because I have intentionally shot close to pumpkins, milk jugs and whatnot and never seen any obvious damage. Also heard though, that Charles Beckwith got shot with a 50 cal while flying around in a huey and not only lived to tell the tale, but founded his own little band of merry miscreants later. Can't imagine the scar that would leave.

 
2004-10-31 12:51:16 PM
skyfire360 That IS what we're talking about, only a full auto version.
 
2004-10-31 12:51:54 PM
I live within "shooting distance" of this event and I would like to say that it sounds like what I would imagine it sounds like in a warzone...
At the same event last year, they had a junker car as part of the target practice and it burst into flames. The FD had to come and put out the fire.

/didn't go either time, saw it on the news
//not much into guns
 
2004-10-31 12:54:38 PM
Nearby, junkyard owner and cannon collector Greg Bodytko of New Haven, Conn., estimated he and his friends would spend $2,000 to $3,000 on ammunition at the event.

"But that's entertainment for five people," he said.


Sweet jeebus - that's what I'd spend on entertainment in a year! if that!! Good Lord!
 
2004-10-31 12:56:36 PM
skyfire

I don't know what sort of tank that would be. A bradley or a 113, yeah buddy. Most other tanks with modern armor, no. I can put an APIT round through a bulldozer blade with mine, definitely.

Oh, and that guy should have his hands and neck camo'd too, and the face camo is too dark for the environment. Obviously just a cute pic for Mom.

/just sayin'
 
2004-10-31 12:56:46 PM
Let's waste my lousy monthly bandwidth with this ditty.
 
2004-10-31 12:59:13 PM
erewhon

I agree. I never saw the proof of the legend first hand. But I was never one to call the DI a lyin' piece of shiat.
 
2004-10-31 01:01:21 PM
"Nearby, junkyard owner and cannon collector Greg Bodytko of New Haven, Conn., estimated he and his friends would spend $2,000 to $3,000 on ammunition at the event."

There are people who collect cannons?

(and exactly how much ammunition would 3,000 dollars buy?)
 
2004-10-31 01:01:56 PM
not enough
 
2004-10-31 01:03:27 PM
I'm ghare, and I approve of this use of machine guns.
 
2004-10-31 01:04:46 PM
andralynn

Commercial 50 cal loads are mondo expensive. I can get them for maybe $1.80 a load from Thunderbird if I buy a LOT, but it's only cost effective if you reload. 2000 bucks for 5 people, you're only talking about 5 - 10 minutes a person of firing time shooting short bursts with long breaks on a Ma Deuce.

Now, it used to be a lot cheaper for me before the current unpleasantness started, because you could barter firing time on a new, un-ruck-dropped M82A1 and some private instruction at a base close to where I live vs a little something shoved off the back of the truck for you on Million Dollar Day. But alas, those times are over. I don't think you'll see Million Dollar Days again for a while.

I can reload for about 75 to 80 cents a load, still real pricey. But I don't shoot a full auto weapon either. You do have to be real careful reloading for 50 cal though, because one mistake and it will blow up real bad.
 
2004-10-31 01:05:15 PM
I'd like to shoot me some punkins with a 50 cal.!! I'd like that very much.

I wonder if the the gun club would mind if I wore my Kerry/Edwards t-shirt!!

/Liberal gun lover!
 
2004-10-31 01:06:28 PM
omg when john kerry is president these gun loving nutz will be
locked up and thrown in jail. Dont you know that the 50 cal maching gun is used to kill kids everyday. Those bible loving nuts better enjoy there last few days with their automatic weapons.
 
2004-10-31 01:11:29 PM
hardy-r-r

Oh, hell no. I thought it sounded good myself, but once I started testing it out I got sort of suspicious that it might not be true.

another handy tip
If you're shooting tracer or incendiary, take along several really good fire extinguishers and a shovel. More than once we have had to run down and put the field out. It doesn't make you popular with the rangemaster either.

/ball ammo for me from now on
 
2004-10-31 01:12:17 PM
John Kerry if elected would never sign ANY gun bill into law. After the democrats attacked gun owners they where thrown out of the congress after forty years of support from the public.

Nextime they should remember not to mess with eighty million americans.
 
2004-10-31 01:12:31 PM
Anyone looking for cool guns should google Steyr IWS 2000.

15.2 mm rounds. Ouch. Not really a true sniper rifle, falls more into the category of "Hide in a tank will you...".
 
2004-10-31 01:13:00 PM
Am I gonna be the first to say this?

This article would be much cooler with pics!
 
2004-10-31 01:13:29 PM
Hyernal

C'mon down and that .50 will give you a kick. If it don't I will!

/I keed, I keed
 
2004-10-31 01:17:23 PM
but guns are evil.. won't somone thing of the children!!!!
 
2004-10-31 01:18:55 PM
Grenel

Whoa! 15.2mm saboted rounds! That will give a smug college kid a kick!

Thanks for the direction. Me wants one of those!
 
2004-10-31 01:20:00 PM
When Ma Duece speaks people listen. John Browning was a genius.
 
ACF
2004-10-31 01:20:13 PM
>>Hardy-r-r
If a .50 cal bullet comes very close to you, as in just missing, that is enough to tear your flesh away.
/Ranger school


Hardy-r-r,
That's not true, I specifically recall John Wayne (The Duke) getting shot in the shoulder by a japanese zero (.50 cal) and he was able to go on just like nothing happened.
/American schooled by Hollywood
 
2004-10-31 01:21:27 PM
hyernal sez: "I wonder if the the gun club would mind if I wore my Kerry/Edwards t-shirt!!

/Liberal gun lover!"

As long as you agreed to spend some time downrange as a reactive target, I doubt they'd mind. ;)

BTW, hyernal, you DO know that Kerry wants to ban most guns, right?
 
2004-10-31 01:22:10 PM
Lock and Load baby. Lock and Load.
 
2004-10-31 01:24:14 PM
republic of filth sez: "John Kerry if elected would never sign ANY gun bill into law."

How do you figure? The last time Kerry voted for a gun ban was in.....wait for it....August, 2004.

His record keeps biting him in the ass...
 
2004-10-31 01:24:55 PM
Thank goodness for the second amendment...

Wait, this is in England...

Damn British...always having all the fun.

/Wishing it was legal to own an automatic weapon
 
2004-10-31 01:25:59 PM
The world is a vampire, sent to drain
Secret destroyers, hold you up to the flames
And what do I get for my pain?
Betrayed desires, and a piece of the game

(chorus)
Even though I know - I suppose Ill show
All my cool and cold-like old job
Despite all my rage Im still just a rat in a cage (2x)
Then someone will say what is lost can never be saved
Despite all my rage Im still just a rat in a cage

Now Im naked, nothing but an animal
But can you fake it, for just one more show?
And what do you want, I want to change
And what have you got when you feel the same

(chorus)

(chorus 2)
Tell me Im the only one
Tell me theres no other one
Jesus was an only son
Tell me Im the chosen one
Jesus was an only son for you

(chorus)
(chorus 2)

Despite all my rage Im still just a rat in a cage
Then someone will say what is lost can never be saved
Despite all my rage Im still just a rat in a cage
And I still believe that I cannot be saved


/obvious
 
2004-10-31 01:26:12 PM
ACF

I stand corrected.

I thought John had been killed by his 3,000 other gun shot wounds.

/Pilgrim
 
2004-10-31 01:26:31 PM
pythagoras, it's perfectly legal to own a machinegun in maryland. Ya just gotta do the paperwork...
 
2004-10-31 01:26:54 PM
heh bear_toy I made something like that last year
 
2004-10-31 01:27:38 PM
Ain't America great? God bless John M. Browning and good old-fashioned American engineering. Ma Deuce: 83 years of blowing away pumpkins (and other enemies), and still going strong!

/reeeeeally miss burning up .50cal ammo on Uncle Sam's dime

//miss burning up 7.62 too, but don't miss toting that pig over hill and dale

///on second thought, yes I do :-p
 
2004-10-31 01:30:09 PM
It's very sad, but M2HBs go for about $20,000 nowadays. I know a fellow who had a chance to buy one for less than $8,000 at a gun show a few yeas ago, and is still kicking himself for passing it up. Of course, the only problem with spending $8,000 (or $20,000) on an M2HB is that you'll need to spend at least that much again to shoot it for a day! There are folks building semi-auto M2HBs of course, but there ain't much fun in that. Although you could probably connect a crank-actuated firing device to the semi-auto and still be 922r compliant. Hmmm... :D

The 6in shockwave business regarding 50 BMG is pure and utter bullshiat. Search any of the big gun boards (thehighroad, thefiringline, etc.).
 
2004-10-31 01:36:15 PM
Flash: Redneck culture invades New England.
The only way I could tell what area of the country this website came from was to look at the death notices which was hilarious because of the "Death Notices by the Republican" banner.
This site has the ironic smell all over it. Next time north easteners make fun of Arkansas I will refer to this website.
 
2004-10-31 01:36:36 PM
theElectron

Ah, yes, but you lose so much of the fun when you start stripping away the tales and legends.

I can't tell you how let down I was, for example, when I found they didn't REALLY have stuff buried at the foot of the flagpole. Like finding out about Santa. My innocence, gone in a flash.
 
2004-10-31 01:37:58 PM
"2004-10-31 01:20:00 PM Nimitz


When Ma Duece speaks people listen. John Browning was a genius."

Or else they go deaf when she speaks... =)
Agreed, Mr. John Browning (RIP) was a genius. The only other firearm designer with nearly as much recognition as him would ahve to be Mr. Kalshnikof, and a close 3rd would 'prolly be Mr. Eugene Stoner...

/gotta love a gun designer named "Stoner"... hehhehheh...
 
2004-10-31 01:42:36 PM
"If Custer had one of those, Little Big Horn would have changed," Fleury said of the machine gun Sullivan fired earlier.

Then he added, "Because Custer still would have lost, but he would have looked like an even BIGGER asshat."
 
2004-10-31 01:51:09 PM
Browning was far more prolific than either Stoner or Kalashnikov. Stoner invented what? The AR-7, AR-10, M63... Kalashnikov the AK47. Browning invented everything from semi-automatic pistols to light machineguns to heavy machineguns to semi-automatic shotguns to lever actions rifles, lever action shotguns, pump shotguns, and on and on.
 
2004-10-31 02:00:49 PM
theElectron-

Agreed, very much so. All I was sayin is that aside from Mr. John Browning, they (Kalashnikov and Stoner) are 'prolly the only other 2 names that come to mind right away, as far as famous firearm designers...

/wasn't the FN-FAL based on a stoner-type action?
 
2004-10-31 02:26:34 PM
Not a lot has happened in the last 50 years as far as firearms design goes. A lot of advances have been in materials, optics, ergonomics, etc. but the designs remain pretty much the same. Garand, Williams, Glock, Henry, Smith, Wesson, Mauser, Borchardt, Colt, Luger, etc. Lots of famous names, but you've probably got the top 3.

I don't believe the FN FAL was based on the Stoner gas system. The first FN FAL prototype came out in 1950, the AR-10 not until 1955. The SAR80, HK G36 and others use the AR-18 gas system, but Stoner had nothing to do with that.
 
2004-10-31 02:36:29 PM

No comment from the original Pumpkin Smasher.
 
2004-10-31 02:41:25 PM
Damn, I love this country!
 
2004-10-31 02:52:04 PM
Didn't RTA, but it reminds me of the time my husband and I left our son with a relative, went down to a friend's house out in the sticks, and started shooting up stuff with guns.

Good times.
 
2004-10-31 02:55:58 PM
theElectron

You left out Uziel Gal? Blasphemy!
 
2004-10-31 02:58:58 PM
I think the FN is based on a Browning design. I curse Stoner every time one of his crappy designs jams on me.
 
2004-10-31 03:10:36 PM
Nearby, junkyard owner and cannon collector Greg Bodytko of New Haven, Conn., estimated he and his friends would spend $2,000 to $3,000 on ammunition at the event.

I wonder if they would give me a grand to go blow something up?
 
2004-10-31 03:17:44 PM
A Barret is NOT a 50 calibre shell. It's 25mm which is closer to 100 caliber.

But anyway, how many big strong men ejaculated during their shootin?
 
2004-10-31 03:29:32 PM
"2004-10-31 03:17:44 PM Elvis Nixon


A Barret is NOT a 50 calibre shell. It's 25mm which is closer to 100 caliber. ..."

As far as I've ever personally see (like in ads in shotgun news, gunlist, auctionarms, gunbroker, etc.) the Barret rifle that marine snipers and such use, IS .50 cal. Also, as far as I know, it is the largest personal firearm outside of missile launchers/rpgs/morters/etc. deployed with the U.S. armed forces...
I have yet to see a 25mm Barret advertised, but I 'spose there are quite a few things I've never seen, so I'm just sayin...

"But anyway, how many big strong men ejaculated during their shootin?"

I don't know about them. I'm 5'11" and about 155-160 lbs. I don't know if that qualifies me as a big strong man, but I know everytime I shot a .50 cal, I almost creamed my pants!

/good times!
//almost as much fun as sex. ALMOST.
///still waitin for my .50 cal...
 
2004-10-31 03:30:35 PM

Dear jackass (this means you Elvis Nixon),

You're talking out your ass. The Barrett rifles (the semi-auto and the various bolt actions) are chambered in .50 BMG, NOT 25mm. Perhaps you're thinking of the 25mm Bushmaster cannon? For both legal and physical reasons, .50 BMG is the most powerful cartridge you're likely to find in a "shoulder" fired weapon.


Additionally, what's with these perverts who have this absolutely Freudian fixation on firearms and penises? Something ain't right with you, buddy.

 
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