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(AZCentral)   Bill Buckner, hiding out in Idaho, hopes the Red Sox will win so militant fans will leave him and his family alone   ( divider line
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2004-10-26 03:54:42 PM  
"I have no strong feelings one way or another, but if (a Red Sox championship) would mean that no one would bother me or my kids, I guess I would like to see them win it," Buckner said.

That's pretty sad. If any of you TFers engage in this kind of lunacy, especially years upon years after an incident, do me a favor and take your own life. Thanks.
2004-10-26 05:15:55 PM  
I wouldn't exactly say Buckner's been "hiding out." He's done the "Take Me Out To the Ball Game" bit at Wrigley Field a couple of times.
2004-10-26 07:27:00 PM  
Boston fan's worst nightmare:

You're on the roof of a burning building with your three-year old daughter. The only way to save her is to drop her into a net firemen are holding 10 floors down. With infinite care, you hold out your daughter over the edge and position her to fall exactly into the center of the net. Saying a prayer, you let her go. Just then, all the firemen look up and they are all Bill Buckner.

/village voice
2004-10-26 08:55:16 PM  
take your own life

Buckner tried. He jumped in front of a bus. But it went between his legs.

/i keed
//don't care either way
///come on, it's funny
2004-10-26 09:56:19 PM  
It's sad that people are shiatty to him and his kids. It's not like it was his fault. How could he really stand up against the curse?

/just kidding. I hate his ass. But I wouldn't threaten his family. There's no need for that.
2004-10-26 10:29:25 PM  
take your own life

Maybe I was a little harsh on that. But bothering the man's family steps way over the line in my book and should grant you a nice beatdown.
2004-10-26 10:58:54 PM  
Leave the man and his family alone.
2004-10-26 11:14:43 PM  
Just confirms that the Red Sox Nation has a few screws loose.

It was McNamara's managing and Stanley's pitching that cost them the game. The game should have been over well before the infamous ground ball. Let alone Buckner's legs were so bad the guy could barely move. He should have been taken out for a defensive replacement. Then they blew game 7. I guess they need a scapegoat.

Just let it go and let Buckner live in peace.
2004-10-26 11:24:03 PM  
It's been almost two decades, and I still agree with him. Screw the replay, it's a conspiracy.
2004-10-26 11:24:16 PM  
*him and his family
2004-10-26 11:29:43 PM  
Well you know what. Pick up the ball. And no one will beat up your kids.
2004-10-26 11:30:14 PM  
Thank you, Guinness Bar Towel. Beat me to it.
2004-10-26 11:30:42 PM  
The world series is like NASCAR.

It's only exciting when something goes wrong.
2004-10-26 11:31:21 PM  
Now Guinness, what's wrong with "leave he alone"?

/Given up on English
2004-10-26 11:32:43 PM  
Thanks, Guinness.

That saved me from typing "... him and his family ..."

2004-10-26 11:34:54 PM  
whats all this goat stuff I don't get it
2004-10-26 11:38:21 PM  
Mookie Wilson was the real hero. Buckner was just his victim.
2004-10-26 11:38:47 PM  
Some sports people always confused me. They riot when their team wins. And they still farkin bother this Buckner guy?? Who cares if he made a mistake. How much of an idiot and a farkin nobody do you have to be to worry about mistakes people made 20 farkin years ago?? I mean hey I guess it gives them some reason to continue their pitiful existence, hate for Buckner, but grow the fark up. If Bill ever needs somebody to sit outside his house with a shotgun ready to shoot any "intruders" I'd be more than willing.
2004-10-26 11:39:22 PM  




You Beantown farktards.
In the immortal words of Shatner, get a life.
2004-10-26 11:40:28 PM  
if anyone listens to the dan patrick show on espnradio, you know buckner is a semi regular. on every month or so, couldnt be a nicer guy, who had a good big league career. sad thing is he has been haunted by that damn ground ball, eventhough the red sox still had to lose the seventh game. He played for cubs and red sox, i mean cmon you are bound to have some bad shiat happen to you when on either one of those teams.

but either way, good big leaguer, great teammate, all that ruined by one groundball.

davidortiz, thats wrong in so many ways. better hope david ortiz doesnt let one roll through his legs.

sox up 3-0
2004-10-26 11:41:19 PM  
Please leave the poster and he's grammar alone!
2004-10-26 11:42:31 PM  
I met him in 91 when I gave him a ski lesson. He's a really nice guy. I don't think he really ever deserved the abuse he's gotton. The sox lost, but it was a team effort. It shouldn't have come down to one play, by one man..
2004-10-26 11:44:25 PM  
He's a man who played a game and made a mistake. Nobody died because of his mistake...anyone who holds a grudge against a man for that long for such a stupid thing ought to eat a gun. I mean...really...
2004-10-26 11:45:34 PM  
yes I agree with you all, but wth is all the goat stuff
2004-10-26 11:45:48 PM  
Maybe I am missing something super obvious, but what did bill buckner do that was so bad?

/7 at the time.
2004-10-26 11:47:34 PM  
Is Scott Norwood hiding out with him?
2004-10-26 11:48:25 PM  
nobody even remembers that the buckner error happened when the game was already tied...and that it was game 6. Blame the Sox for losing game 7, please.
2004-10-26 11:53:36 PM  
meh, they'll find an inventive way to blow it this year too - up 3 games or not.
2004-10-26 11:55:11 PM  
Buckner was my favorite player when I was a kid (when he was with the Dodgers). I got his autograph when he made an appearance at a grocery store, when I was in junior high. "22" became my favorite number. What happened to that dude, the way he's been treated by history, is disgusting. First of all, he didn't blow the series for them. That game was already tied and in extra innings and in NY, who's to say the Mets weren't going to win it anyway? And it was only G6, they managed to fark up G7. Secondly, the Sox' bullpen blew the game. Thirdly, he was a damn good player, great contact hitter, had good speed in his day, even won a batting title one year. Ted Williams saw him in spring training one year, think it was '69, and said "someday that kid's going to win a batting title", and he did. Respect for Bill Buckner. Anyone who doesn't is a misguided baseball fan and can kiss my ass.
2004-10-26 11:55:20 PM  
If you believe in curses you may not be very intelligent.
2004-10-26 11:57:00 PM  
The poor man, he should not have been in the game fer chrissake. F'n McNamara.

Let this man live in peace goddamnit. I pray that in 24 hours all of this tripe is put to an end with a Red Sox victory in the World Series.
2004-10-26 11:57:55 PM  

Ah, so he's in Idaho, huh ? The day is mine, Buckner, and you shall not evade me like a ground ball !!!! I'm coming for you on two good ankles !!!!

Actually, Shiraldi is fist on my crap list. What a bad pitcher.

2004-10-26 11:58:48 PM  
I read it as Bill Brasky
2004-10-26 11:59:08 PM  
You Fat Bish, The Curse of the Billy Goat has to do with the Cubs.

"Sam Gianis, owner of the Billygoat Tap, which was inspiration for John Belushi's "cheesborger, cheeseborger" routine, tried to bring a billygoat to a game 4 of the 1945 WS.

When he was kicked out unceremoniously, to retaliate, Sianis cast a "goat curse" on the Cubs by saying, "Cubs, they not gonna win anymore" For 50+ years, they have not been back to the WS."
2004-10-26 11:59:22 PM  
Right on heyzeus. That's what's so incredibly sad about the whole thing. What people forget about the Buckner miss (and the Steve Bartman incident for that matter) is that it was GAME 6!!! And if Baseball is such a momentum game, then how come the Arizona Diamondbacks could come back after Byung Hyun Kim's two consecutive blown saves? Give it a rest already.
2004-10-27 12:03:46 AM  
Seems kind of like blaming Gore's loss on the state of Florida, when he didn't win even Tennessee.

One play does not a lost Series make.

Anyone who would think so, and actually harrass a person and his family over it, is deranged and probably dangerous.
2004-10-27 12:08:13 AM  
I hate to say it but I kind of want to see the Sox lose, LIke watching a slow motion car wreck.

Just saying
2004-10-27 12:10:20 AM  
Here is an excerpt from an old Sports Illustrated article about what happened to Mitch Williams after he gave up the winning home run to Joe Carter in the 1993 World Series:

Williams was a different story. "Wild Thing" was his nickname and theme song, and he had Philadelphia rocking and rolling in the '93 season when he racked up 43 saves. Then one pitch, one swing, and it was all over.

Joe Carter's Series-winning homer for Toronto with two outs in the bottom of the ninth in Game 6 wrecked Williams' career. Phillies fans, who once sang and danced for him, deluged him with hate mail, some of it threatening. Williams, packing a gun for protection, retreated to his Texas ranch. He was traded, thought about quitting, tried to make a comeback with Houston in 1994, and finally retired after going 1-4 with six saves and a 7.65 ERA.
2004-10-27 12:12:13 AM  
What do Bill Buckner and Michael Jackson have in common?

They both wear a glove on one hand for no apparant reason.

Thank you. I'll be here all night.
2004-10-27 12:25:09 AM  
What kills me about the Buckner deal is that 9 out of 10 people who THINK they know about it think that the "out" he missed would have given Boston the championship.


Get learned here:

You might be able to make claim he gave the Mets that game, which is to assume that the Red Sox would have came back won anyway. And don't get me started over game 7.

I'm rooting for the Red Sox this time -- I have a some buddies in Boston and I know they are dying to see this happen. I think, for the most part, the fans there are good people. That said, the scum sucking pathetic losers who harassed this man, and worse his family, should be sent to the 10th level of hell forever. And while not as bad, it would have been nice to see more people IN Boston stand up to these ackjasses so that the man didn't have to move to BFE.
2004-10-27 12:25:21 AM  
i'm still amazed by how many sports stations / writers still portray it as "Bill Buckner lost the World Series for the Red Sox".

THE GAME WAS TIED. Even if Buckner picks up the ball and steps on first, there's no guarantee that the Sox win that game. 18 years later people still need to be reminded of that.

/Red Sox fan ... excited but still nervous!
2004-10-27 12:34:21 AM  

2004-10-27 12:34:28 AM  
Good lord. Bob f---ing Stanley is the B we should be after. That guy blew the game no question. His Wild Pitch allowed the run to score. If Buckner picks up the ball, the Mets still probably win. The Mets have all the momentum and probably win it in later innings.

Meanwhile -- 1 win to go.
2004-10-27 12:37:22 AM  
As a sox fan who was 8 months old for the Buckner mishap, I only know second hand stories from my dad, who was ready to pop the cork before that inning. Regardless of game 6 or 7, the sox SHOULD HAVE won that game, which is why it hurts so much.

However, without Buckner, the Sox would not have made post season that year. Also, Buckner should not have been in on defense in the first place; he's a hitter, not a fielder.

IF the sox win this year (please, oh please), Buckner is off the hook in my opinion, and I plead for any other sox fans who read this post to forgive him as well.

This year, all the ghosts get exorcized.
2004-10-27 12:37:45 AM  

thank you i'm a retard when it comes to sports, amoung other things.

lots of interesting history with sports and that is cool
2004-10-27 12:42:23 AM  
Did anyone watch tonight's game? Manny's defensive DP? Supan's brain fart on 3rd? This curse (it never existed) is D.E.A.D. For those of you not rooting for us -- I hope, sincerely, for you that you get to experience the amazing joy that we are all enjoying. Padres? Coyotes? Grizzlies? Whatever. This is culture. Get over yourselves. We'll shut up after the win (least till the Pats win their 3rd). ahahahhahahahahhahaha! IT'S OUR TURN BABY.

/smug for the first time in 58 years
2004-10-27 12:51:05 AM  
Did somebody say Idaho????

[image from too old to be available]
2004-10-27 12:52:20 AM  
Buckner is full of crap. You know he's begging and pleading with God to let the Red Sox win. I remember during last year's playoffs after the Red Sox got bounced in the ALCS, Dan Patrick had Buckner on his radio show. When Patrick asked why Buckner moved to such an isolated place in Idaho, Buckner swore up and down that it was because he got a good real estate tip up there and had nothing to do with the 1986 World Series.

Patrick laughed.

"I sent Billy Buckner two tickets to the show, but he couldn't bend over to pick them up." -- Pete Rose @ WWF WrestleMania 14 in Boston
2004-10-27 12:53:16 AM  
Could be worse for Buckner. He could be Escobar.


Wait, this is Fark, nobody likes soccer. Fine, background.

1994 World Cup, Colombia's playing the U.S., Escobar is a Colombian defender who inadvertently deflects an American pass into his own net, Colombia loses the game, gets eliminated from the tournament. He goes home to Colombia, three days later he gets shot and killed because of it.

Even still, probably sucks to be Buckner.
2004-10-27 01:07:15 AM  
I'm in idaho, Billy B isn't hiding. He is a good citizen here.

/we all carry guns in Idaho
2004-10-27 01:08:12 AM  
Bucker's error allowed the ~tying~ run to score, not the winning run. In game 6. Boston choked in game 7.

Its one of those urban legend / meme type things... once the public conciousness gets a hold of it, it just won't let go. Kind of like "WMD" and "Saddam Hussein" -- no logic, but people believe it.
2004-10-27 01:12:50 AM  
You're wrong Ubergrendle

The score was tied. His error allowed the WINNING run to score. See the link I posted above.
2004-10-27 01:30:20 AM  
damn straight, Xapter

if the bullpen didnt blow it as bad as they did, buckner would never have been forced into that position in the first place
2004-10-27 01:31:40 AM  
Somehow, somewhere, Steve Bartman sheds a silent tear....

[image from too old to be available]
2004-10-27 01:55:27 AM  
No sweeter use of the ironic tag would be for the Sox to lose after having a 3-0 lead.

/yep. i jinxed it. :-P
2004-10-27 01:56:22 AM  
Is Scott Norwood hiding out with him?

Wide right!

/Giants fan.
2004-10-27 10:07:13 AM  
I was a huge Buckner fan while he was with the Dodgers, Cubs, and Red Sox. A great, pure hitter throughout his career, even on one leg.

It bothers me, though, that he has teamed up with Mookie to sell autographed pictures of his World Series error.

Nevetheless, harrassing the man and his family is reprehensible.
2004-10-27 10:21:10 AM  
While I realize the chances of it happening are slim to nil, I am, nonetheless, a fan.

2004-10-27 10:29:49 AM  

RE: take your own life

Maybe I was a little harsh on that.

No, you weren't.
2004-10-27 10:29:59 AM  
To those giving Buckner's family a hard time... Regardless of what happened during that game, it was Buckner on the field AND NOT HIS FAMILY!!!!!

Some people really take this crap too seriously. I have a friend that is Yankee's fan that, to say the least, is acting like a big baby. I have been rather mild in my exchanges re the Red Sox routing them because I know how he can be. He actually said "fark you" in one of our email exchanges. What can one expect from an attorney? Get over it already...
2004-10-27 10:32:56 AM  
So, how about putting in a defensive replacement? or was Buckner managing.

I think he should have made the play, but he was old and breaking down, with the lead, he shouldnt have been in there.
2004-10-27 10:35:14 AM  
2004-10-26 11:55:11 PM Peaceboy

"22" is my favorite number, too!! However, mine goes back to Mercury Morris of the Dolphins and their kick-ass team from, was it 1973 (when they went undefeated and won the Super Bowl)? I suppose it also helps that I was born the 22nd.

/kinda funny I bring up one of the Dolphins best seasons when today, they are sucking ass!/
2004-10-27 10:36:21 AM  
1972 was the perfect season
2004-10-27 10:47:58 AM  
Is Scott Norwood hiding out with him?

I thought his name was Nott Scorewood.
2004-10-27 10:55:30 AM  
Billy Buckner was a Cub, nuff said.
2004-10-27 11:07:26 AM  
Buckner was a great player. It's too bad he's remembered for that one miss. Mets would have won the game anyway. Straw was high as a kite.
2004-10-27 12:09:50 PM  
Any harrassment he still receives is from fools only. As already reported numerous times:

1) The game was already tied.

Not so frequently reported:

2) Buckner played for the Sox in 87 and was traded to the Angels mid way through the season. But, time heals all wounds - he came back and played his final games with the Sox, appearing on the opening day roster in 1990. He was greeted with a standing ovation when introduced - true Sox fans finally realizing he was not the reason for the 86 loss and acknowledging all he had done for them in '86 (hit .311 with 102 RBI's) - one of the main reasons they made the post season.
2004-10-27 01:00:37 PM  
Ahh, the good ole days. Back when the Mets were good and not driving me to Lexapro
2004-10-27 01:02:19 PM  
I didn't know Buckner also played for the Cubs. I mean, hasn't this guy suffered enough?
2004-10-27 01:20:13 PM  
Bill Buckner salary history:

Look what happens after 1986. Poor S.O.B. It was *one error*

1985 Boston Red Sox $747,500
1986 Boston Red Sox $785,000
1987 Boston Red Sox $366,667
1987 California Angels $62,500
1988 California Angels $400,000
1989 Kansas City Royals $400,00

/ source
2004-10-27 01:37:14 PM  
My theory: the curse has been lifted off the Sox and placed directly on the Texas Rangers (as if that really needed to be done). Sox were cursed for trading Ruth. Rangers are cursed for trading A-Rod, arguably the best player in baseball (although he slaps like a little biyatch).

/pays just enough attention to baseball to make ridiculous comparisons like this
2004-10-27 02:13:14 PM  
Apparently you don't pay quite enough attention! Babe Ruth was traded to the Yankees, and we all know how they ended up doing with him. The Rangers traded A-Rod and the Yankees ended up with the guy attempting to cheat (in the most girly way possible), getting caught, and killing a rally during the last gasp the Yankees had to avoid the worst collapse in postseason history.

/Love it every time I get to say that
2004-10-27 02:18:15 PM  

Boise State! W00000t! Hawaii you're going down next!

Nice to know Buckner's a fan, too.
2004-10-27 04:14:22 PM  
Bill Buckner = [image from too old to be available]
2004-10-27 05:10:18 PM  
A big part of the problem with Buckner has been his bitter attitude. He should lighten up, take it with a sense of humor, and stop selling 'the ball' over and over and over again. He should become part of the ceremonies, part of the soon-to-be history of forgiving, if not forgetting. Johnny Pesky totally blew the '46 Series and he is now the most beloved Red Sox ever.
2004-10-27 07:39:34 PM  
They won't forgive, and they won't forget. He made a mistake, and stupid fans won't let it go, never mind that they had another chance the next night -- the series was NOT over, there was another chance -- and the Sox blew it. People just focus in on Buckner because that ball going through his legs was so major. It's like Peal Harbor for some fans -- they know exactly where they were when it happened.

I feel bad for Bill Buckner, and wish him the best. The Sox have been farking it up for years before and after his wee mistake.
2004-10-27 08:04:22 PM  
He will be forgotten in a mere few hours -- as will the ridiculous 1918 / Curse talks --- does anyone realize that Babe Ruth left in 1920 NOT 1918? Why didn't they win the world series in 1919 with him on the team??? Annoying
2004-10-27 08:35:36 PM  
Buckner is a good guy, I haven't met him personally but from the account of others, they say he's a good guy. People need to let go of the past. Sports are life? In life you make mistakes.

You tards who say he should of gotten it...SHOW ME YOUR MLB CREDS!


Buckner = [image from too old to be available]
Boise State Football = [image from too old to be available]
2004-10-28 12:41:02 PM  
Idaho? No, YOUDAHO
2004-10-29 11:59:26 AM  
Fox 25 News in Boston aired an audio clip Friday morning of a telephone conversation w/ Bill buckner in reference to the "We forgive Bill Buckner" sign at Game 4.
He says that he is offended by the assumption that he did something that deserved forgiveness.
Yeah, like the routing gounder that went through your legs three and a half feet from first base which would have won game six and the series for Boston, that wasn't your fault?
F U, Buckner stay the hell away from Boston.
Your get out of jail free card is revoked.
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