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(Denver Channel)   Caretakers of St. Louis Arch upset about illuminating the arch with pink lights to celebrate breast cancer awareness. Apparently, the shade of pink doesn't match the shade of the panties they've gotten in a twist   (thedenverchannel.com) divider line 263
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2004-10-21 07:51:32 AM
It can be purple for Gay Days
 
2004-10-21 08:33:41 AM
The service's spokesman said it sees the arch as a sacred site, and doesn't want any changes made to it, even temporarily.
I can understand this. While it's "just" a set of lights, why not paint the bears in Yellowstone pink for Breast Cancer Awareness month? Precedent is everything when it comes to farktard causes and their ability to mangle monuments. As I recall, they don't even flash red, white & blue lights at the Arch on the 4th. How 'bout putting up festive colors and pilgrim-syle hats on the Vietnam Memorial on Thanksgiving?
 
2004-10-21 08:37:38 AM
They should build a hay-stack on top of the arch. Then, when it's illuminated pink it will really look like a booby!
 
2004-10-21 08:49:57 AM
I gotta agree with the caretakers on this. I can forsee the Arch being the "color of the week" for whatever worthy cause is next.
 
2004-10-21 08:51:02 AM
If they are lighting the Arch with pink light for Breast Cancer Awareness, will they also be lighting a flat patch of ground near the Arch pink also?

/hellbound, but cerebral
 
2004-10-21 09:22:46 AM
hellbound, but hysterical, Kyosuke.
 
2004-10-21 09:25:35 AM
Nah this is Ashcroft's state. He's flipping out that someone will think it's a real breast.
 
2004-10-21 09:25:40 AM
Not being from the Midwest, what IS the arch a monument to?
 
2004-10-21 09:26:52 AM
The illumination was approved by Congress in honor of one senator's mother who died from breast cancer.

That makes it even dumber. How selfish.
 
2004-10-21 09:27:25 AM
Yeah...sacred ground alright. The Park Service demolished 10 city blocks of dilapilated, fire trap warehouses to build the Arch.

Every year the sacred ground gets stomped and puked on by thousands of people during Fair Saint Louis, July 4th Weekend.

So what if they color the Arch. After been brushed steel gray for 30+ years, it could do with a little color. Just so long as it doesn't become the MCI Arch or something, I'm cool with some color on our tiny little skyline.
 
2004-10-21 09:28:15 AM
2004-10-21 09:25:40 AM rvagirl81

Not being from the Midwest, what IS the arch a monument to?

A memorial to the Jefferson Expansion, as well as St. Louis' historical role as a launching point for expeditions and travels to the western U.S. Hence, it is supposed to be a "gateway to the west."
 
2004-10-21 09:29:13 AM
rvagirl81

Why, the cosh function.
 
2004-10-21 09:29:36 AM
I saw the St. Louis Arch once!

/got nothing
 
2004-10-21 09:31:22 AM
When I was backpacking through Europe, I was in Brussels and met an American guy in a train station who was from Wisconsin or something. He asked where I was from. I told him St. Louis. He said "Oh, you have that... thing. [and made an arch-like movement with his finger]" I felt so inadequate.
 
2004-10-21 09:31:37 AM
Excellent headline!
 
Byn
2004-10-21 09:33:02 AM
wow - I certainly wasn't expecting this sort of response from the Farkers. Considering how much boobies are loved here, I thought you may want to support saving a few real ones. Or is that the problem?

Real, fake, real, fake, real, fake - doesn't seem to matter, because everyone likes something different, right? But hey, it's no biggie, you lose a real one and get a fake one and who the hell cares? Too bad that some of you can't see past the boobie and into the realness of the woman.

Great headline, submitter!
 
2004-10-21 09:33:48 AM
Whatever. Why even do anything to enhance "breast cancer awareness". Who the hell is NOT aware of breast cancer?
 
2004-10-21 09:34:44 AM
I have always wanted to take a crap on the top of that thing and then place bets on which side of the arch it would slide down...

man I love to party.
 
2004-10-21 09:35:32 AM
And why not?

It's only lights people, and if it in some way can help fight breast cancer I support it completely.

/not directly affected by cancer, but a fan of breasts all the same.
 
2004-10-21 09:38:11 AM
Now they've gone and turned it into "Caretakers in a Tizzy over Pink Lighting for Breast Cancer Awareness Week Week."
 
2004-10-21 09:38:19 AM
Precedent is a scary thing.
 
2004-10-21 09:38:58 AM
What exactly is sacred about it?
 
2004-10-21 09:39:02 AM
Not being from the Midwest, what IS the arch a monument to?

A memorial to the Jefferson Expansion...


Geez, they sucked. "We Built This City" was dreadful.
 
2004-10-21 09:39:15 AM
Yeah, who cares?

As long as I don't have to ride up in those death capsules again, I couldn't care less what they do to the arch. Got stuck in there with three smelly fat people. Blech. And I'm 6'6" so I would have had a hell of a time in there with regular people.

My parents live in St Louis and I've taken friends who visit to the arch. Basically, you get there, look at it, and go home. Maybe gamble if you're really bored. If I want to see pointless constructions, I'll stay in DC and look at the Washington monument.
 
2004-10-21 09:40:36 AM
labman

It can be purple for Gay Days

exactly what they were talking about when they expressed concern over "other causes".

They consider the site "sacred"? I don't know about you, but two things in my mind make something sacred...it was a designated holy site, or lots of people died there at some point. Neither happened? Oh, well then fark off and get over yourselves.
 
2004-10-21 09:40:53 AM
St. Louis/Houston flame war in 3..2..
 
2004-10-21 09:41:42 AM
elchip you felt inadequate because an idiot didn't know what an arch is? What the hell is this country coming to. And the Arch in St Louis is awesome. If it's a really windy day I shiat you not you can feel it swaying in the breeze when you are up at the top. And those nifty escape pod elevators are just cool.
 
2004-10-21 09:41:47 AM
There are plenty of places that use lights to recognize special events/causes.

Lighten up! (pun entirely intended) And as platts42 observed, get some perspective.
 
2004-10-21 09:42:21 AM
stevarooni

I can understand this. While it's "just" a set of lights, why not paint the bears in Yellowstone pink for Breast Cancer Awareness month? Precedent is everything when it comes to farktard causes and their ability to mangle monuments


Puh'lease! How is lighting a monument differently the same as painting live animals? Ridiculous.

Farkers - why does stevarooni hate healthy breasts?
 
2004-10-21 09:44:00 AM
How can half a mcdonald's sign be sacred?
 
2004-10-21 09:46:44 AM
Oh, and thanks elchip for the info.
 
2004-10-21 09:47:03 AM
Byn-- Considering how much boobies are loved here, I thought you may want to support saving a few real ones. Or is that the problem?

No, that's not the problem. The problem is that it's just going to set a precedent, as has been noted, for a cause-of-the-week lighting scheme and people are going to fight over who has a legitimate reason to get their lighting done and who doesn't, a la that brouhaha over the "choose life" license plates. That's what inevitably happens when you use state property and funds to promote moral causes-- everybody thinks their moral cause deserves recognition and funding as well.
 
2004-10-21 09:47:27 AM
It is quite beautiful at night.
 
2004-10-21 09:48:31 AM
Yeah, but there's a decent steakhouse over at Laclede's landing I think I remember...

Something about a plank steak place? Anyone?

Oh, and I heard Robin Trower at Mississippee Nights back in 86. Some weird guy kept asking me if I had a hash pipe. I did, but I didn't give it to him.
 
2004-10-21 09:49:56 AM


GIS for pink arch
 
2004-10-21 09:49:58 AM
I used to live in Saint Louis. If memory serves me correctly, I believe that it's been illuminated with different colored lights in the past...
Sacred? B.S.!
Way too uptight? Hell yes!
Ugh... Thank God I'm outa' there.
 
2004-10-21 09:50:40 AM
on a completly unrelated note.. im watching the Van Hellsing DVD. Its got such wonderfully written Dialouge as.

Frankenstein: Help me!!
Weird Monk Guy: Buy your supposed to die!
Frankenstein: I want to live!!
Weird Monk Guy: ok.

... we now return to this thread about the pink St. Louis Arch already in progress.
 
2004-10-21 09:51:26 AM
oh and uhh, buy=but.. yeah I need sleep.
 
2004-10-21 09:51:27 AM
I love healthy breasts, bigandugly. But I also think that there's a decided advantage to "dignity", and to not whoring out every monument to the cause celebre. Why not just keep the Gateway Arch unsullied and nigh non-political? And that "Oh, you must hate healthy breasts." guilt trip is absolute crap. Thanks for the cogent and unemotional argument, though.
 
2004-10-21 09:52:11 AM
stevarooni

I can understand this. While it's "just" a set of lights, why not paint the bears in Yellowstone pink for Breast Cancer Awareness month?

Yeah, because painting something is exactly the same as putting up a set of lights for a night.

Precedent is everything when it comes to farktard causes and their ability to mangle monuments.

Mangle? They are trying for one farking night to put out a subtle message about breast cancer...tell me how that is a precedent to mangle a monument.

As I recall, they don't even flash red, white & blue lights at the Arch on the 4th.

Oh how very proud that must make us all.

How 'bout putting up festive colors and pilgrim-syle hats on the Vietnam Memorial on Thanksgiving?

Sure, go ahead and compare some stupid farking arch signifying nothing except manifest destiny that 99% of the population wouldn't even care about if it farking fell into the mississippi tomorrow, with a monument that commemorates war fallen, but war monuments and meaningless tourist attractions don't have very much in common.
 
2004-10-21 09:53:03 AM
Just say it - next it'll be a gay pride rainbow.
By the way, why is gay a rainbow?
I mean, I understand the underlying metaphor of the whole spectrum of human sexuality , lalala.
But the rainbow for teh ghey?
They've gone and ruined it for everyone.

/a rainbow lit Gateway Arch would be kinda cool...
 
2004-10-21 09:53:47 AM
Rillion: I understand the concern about precedent. But wouldn't you say that breast cancer is morally neutral?

And yes - the FL "Choose Life" license plates piss me off royal. I want to lobby to have an alternative plate introduced that says "Choose Choice". Although in my more evil moments I think one that says "Kill More Babies" would be cool, simply because it would make the Choose Lifers' heads asplode.
 
2004-10-21 09:54:45 AM
That's what inevitably happens when you use state property and funds to promote moral causes-- everybody thinks their moral cause deserves recognition and funding as well.

God, you US farkers and your TERROR about any kind of public funding. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! Of all the crap things that go on in the world (and yes, even the US)...massive corporate fraud, human rights abuses, environmental disasters and all you can think of is your bank balance. Do you realise that the Fortune 1000 company you work for probably rips off the government 100 times more in fraudulent tax manipulation than it costs you to provide a charity with some exposure on public grounds.

THINK!
 
2004-10-21 09:54:49 AM
I agree with them. I DON'T think they should light it up...and here's why...

Cancer, it's a great cause to fight for, and I think it's a perfectly honorable goal to bring cancer awareness to the masses. But by lighting it up pink in the name of cancer philanthropy, it open this kind of thing up to whatever group wishes to promote itself or it's cause. So if you are IN FAVOR of lighting up the arch with pink lights in the name of cancer awareness, would you be OK with the following?

* Lighting up Mount Rushmore with a rainbow to celebrate homosexual pride and to bring AIDS awareness into society?
* Draping the Golden Gate Bridge with NRA banners to promote Gun Safety in America
* Draping the Washington Monument in Red to promote Animal Rights
* Covering the Statue of Liberty in a black robe to promote Black History Month

These are just the few I could come up with in 30 seconds. Imaging what one could do with a few weeks and a team of people. If the park service allows this, it opens up all kinds of advertising for causes, even causes that are good on the surface. Then, if some group is denied, they sue the Parks Service, which in turn costs them (us the taxpayer) money to defend against (and possibly loose). If they loose, then ANYONE could change a monument or alter a park to suit whichever 'awareness' movement they wished.

What else can you guys come up with?
 
2004-10-21 09:55:14 AM
steevarooni:

Why not just keep the Gateway Arch unsullied and nigh non-political?

breast cancer is not "political".
 
2004-10-21 09:55:46 AM
Just wanted to say, well played, submitter, well played.
 
2004-10-21 09:55:51 AM
Thanks for that refreshing interlude, Animonovo.
Really.
 
2004-10-21 09:56:18 AM
But campaigning for breast cancer awareness is political, willywanka.
 
2004-10-21 09:56:45 AM
But the rainbow for teh ghey? They've gone and ruined it for everyone.

Why not? They already stole the word "gay", ruining several Christmas songs.
 
2004-10-21 09:57:21 AM


Red! I want red, there's no substitute for red.
Red! Paint it red, green ain't mean compared to red.
 
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