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2004-10-20 03:47:50 PM
I'd care more if Louisiana was voting on a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to hunt, fish and trap outside of Louisiana
 
2004-10-20 03:59:09 PM
They don't call it the "Sportsman's Paradise" for nothing. People take their hunting and fishing very seriously here.
 
2004-10-20 04:07:52 PM
I used to hunt often, so I can relate to their concern. But...Do you really need to amend your state constitution? Seems to me that hunting is a privilege, not a right.
 
2004-10-20 04:08:51 PM

The 1990s called. They're wondering what took you so long. (Passed with ~70%) ;)


 
2004-10-20 04:18:53 PM
Let's not forget that this is the state that keeps cockfighting legal, despite being opposed by 78% of its citizens. I never realized that mouth-breathing animal abusers were such a powerful lobby. But, this IS Louisiana.
 
2004-10-20 06:24:44 PM
If this is what they apparently care about and it distracts hunters from voting for a presidential candidate, then... OK.
 
2004-10-20 07:46:14 PM
Ever look at the first ten or so results in a GIS for PETA (Some may be NSFW)? I'd hunt that!
 
2004-10-20 09:35:42 PM
You know what's great? Killing.
 
2004-10-20 09:45:15 PM
Florida has some interesting amendments as well.

Including one by Lyle Lanley that funds a bullet train:

The Rail Truth
 
2004-10-20 09:45:45 PM
Jed Clampett unavailable for comment.
 
2004-10-20 09:46:03 PM
Well, now I'm gonna have to go vote on Nov. 2. Though I wonder how necessary it is, considering how long any state representative would live after proposing such a ban.
 
2004-10-20 09:48:03 PM
You know whats great? Deer. Why? Because they dont have a single freakin' natural predator in the southeast. I live in Alabama, and I see more deer than roaches, and I really wish I was just being dramatic, but no. So if anyone wants to cry about 'cruelty' and all that crap, come down here and sit on my front porch and start counting. Put some corn or salt block out... keep counting. Since the farmers killed off every wild carnivore(decades ago), if you dont hunt, you have infestation. Hunting isnt a right, or a privilege, its a necessity. We've already farked mother earth, might as well fark her proper.
 
2004-10-20 09:49:30 PM
Ahh "conservatives". If we aren't allowed to kill people anymore, we'll kill wildlife.

Not that "liberals" don't do it, but I'm wagering that they're far less likely to make up some stupid justification.
 
2004-10-20 09:50:31 PM
Hey, I'm in Louisiana!

Look mah, I'm on Fark!
 
2004-10-20 09:50:55 PM
 
2004-10-20 09:52:15 PM
Bah, LA uses France's wimpy Civil Law. They don't count.
 
2004-10-20 09:55:23 PM
klisejo

At least there, the deer are only a nuisance. Since they've been pushed North by human settlement, the white-tails are also starting to encroach on Moose populations (white-tails carry and transmit 'P. tenius', a parasitic roundworm that causes 'moose disease.' link
 
2004-10-20 09:55:44 PM
We're actually having the same thing in Montana, except here there's no question it will pass.
 
2004-10-20 09:55:50 PM
@obladi6703: Yes, because congealed common law is so much better than systematically-defined civil law.
 
2004-10-20 09:58:23 PM
an amendment legalizing murder, sounds great.

as long as hunters are considered fair game.
 
2004-10-20 10:01:17 PM
punkennedys

an amendment legalizing murder, sounds great.

as long as hunters are considered fair game.


Well, there's two problems with that:
Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of one human by another, so the first problem is that one party here is an Animal, and the second problem is that if you legalise it, it isn't murder anymore because it isn't unlawful.
 
2004-10-20 10:02:04 PM
congealed common law is so much better than systematically-defined civil law.

You got it. It was the Brits that gave us Blackstone, arguably the greatest jurist of all time.
 
2004-10-20 10:02:17 PM
punkennedys

do u eat meat?
 
2004-10-20 10:02:51 PM
Who cares about the presidential race? Louisiana is voting on a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to hunt, fish and fap in Louisiana

/much better
 
2004-10-20 10:07:09 PM
Who gives a shiat, Louisiana is a coat-tail state.
 
2004-10-20 10:08:57 PM
punkennedys

an amendment legalizing murder, sounds great.

as long as hunters are considered fair game.


I suppose you would need a license Then I would imagine that such a person that trys to bag a hunter would be considered a hunter as well. The hunter hunter could then be hunted by a hunter hunter hunter. Since the hunter hunter hunter hunts already, the hunter hunter would be at a distict disadvange to the hunter hunter hunter as they have little experience as a hunter at all.
 
2004-10-20 10:10:50 PM
At work I went over my limit for spelling and grammar...
 
2004-10-20 10:11:21 PM
2004-10-20 09:49:30 PM Epistax
Ahh "conservatives". If we aren't allowed to kill people anymore, we'll kill wildlife.

Not that "liberals" don't do it, but I'm wagering that they're far less likely to make up some stupid justification.



Shows you how ignorant you are about the hunting community.

There are many hunting groups very angry at Bush for environmental policy. They want pristine land for hunting.

Hunting (controlled kills) are absolutely necessary in many parts of the country for animal health. You can pay someone to do it, or have someone pay to do it. Might as well make some money off of it.

Many of the most popular democratic (liberal) presidents in history were avid hunters.

You are the ignorant uninformed here, not the hunter you would like to paint in that manner.
 
2004-10-20 10:13:57 PM
"Felons need not apply"?
 
2004-10-20 10:16:25 PM
""Felons need NOT apply."?
/There, much better.

/RTFA



/nuttn'
 
2004-10-20 10:17:45 PM
Anyone who thinks Kerry is a hunter (except for rich broads) hasn't examined his past. This guy is anti-gun (check out Congressional Record) and more strongly opposed by the NRA than any other candidate for President.

As for nuclear __ asshat's comment, if you had "pristine" land you couldn't hunt on it. Otherwise it would no longer be pristine.
 
2004-10-20 10:18:00 PM
If the last amendment to the La. Constitution that past, the one banning gay marriage, is any indication, this one will thrown out by the Supremes too.

Hey leg staff...get off your asses and git yourself some draftin' lessons.
 
2004-10-20 10:18:28 PM
klisejo, props! Bama's deer population has been on the rise since I can remember, even though damn near everyone I know back there hunts. (I'm from Elmore County) I miss deer that are bigger than a lab....these deer in central Florida are pretty scrawny...but still big enough to mess up your truck!

wingnut.....impeccable logic....wonder what the bag limit would be? :op
 
2004-10-20 10:19:01 PM
Geaux Tigers! Beat the hell out of Bama!
/Louisiana rocks...
 
2004-10-20 10:21:42 PM
interestin fact 'bout the cockfightin' cause it's illegal in Oregon
 
2004-10-20 10:23:17 PM
like almost anywhere else I guess. Xcept for Me-hhhhhh!!ico and Colombia last I heard/read.
 
2004-10-20 10:24:35 PM
and New Me-hhhhhh!!!ico.
 
2004-10-20 10:25:46 PM
"Im not a hunter, im a Wildlife Population Control Specialist"

/Louisiana PWNS
//lives in louisiana
///Go LSU!
 
2004-10-20 10:26:19 PM
oh . . . and Thailand, too. (BTW in Thai. they have beetlefightin, they show it on a big-screen tv)

[COCKfightin'!!!!]


get your Cheney's ready!!!

I mean, geat your Cocks ready!!!
 
2004-10-20 10:28:56 PM
Cheneys!!!

/sorry, grammar/punctuation-nazi
 
2004-10-20 10:32:53 PM
kilsejo

nope.
 
2004-10-20 10:39:40 PM
It's really sad. The priorities of the people that live in the state of Louisiana are completely backward. Take the day off and constitutionally hunt deer and fags and while your out there in the great polutted outdoors, enjoy the sound of every useful citizen leaving.
 
2004-10-20 10:44:28 PM
Punkennedys

Guess what the odds are that Id call out a vegan? You might say pretty good. Id still say your full of it.
 
2004-10-20 10:48:49 PM
Not that anyone cares about anything Louisiana that isn't easy to make fun of, but here's all four amendments on the state ballot, which also includes extending homestead exemptions, boosting the state government's and police's affirmative action program for military veterans, and adding a free money fund for farmers and fishermen:
La. Secretary of State Website

Ballot No. 1
Act No. 927
Senate Bill No. 2

Amendment No. 1, Regular Session, 2004, A JOINT RESOLUTION "Proposing to add Article I, Section 27 of the Constitution of Louisiana, relative to the declaration of rights; to preserve the freedom to hunt, fish, and trap, subject to regulation, restriction, or prohibition imposed pursuant to law; and to specify an election for submission of the proposition to electors and provide a ballot proposition."

Ballot No. 2
Act No. 929
Senate Bill No. 806 (Substitute for Senate Bill No. 158

Amendment No. 2, Regular Session, 2004, A JOINT RESOLUTION "Proposing to amend Section 20(A) of Article VII of the Constitution of Louisiana, relative to the homestead exemption from ad valorem property taxes; to provide persons eligible for the homestead exemption and for the valuation of land which is the homestead; to provide for the homestead exemption for homesteads owned in indivision and for fields in which there is timber; to provide for the application of the exemption to the surviving spouse, testamentary or irrevocable trusts, usufructuaries, and to property occupied by a buyer under a bond for deed contract under certain conditions; to prohibit more than one exemption for any person; and to specify an election for submission of the proposition to electors and provide a ballot proposition."

Ballot No. 3
Act No. 930
House Bill No. 261

Amendment No. 3, Regular Session, 2004, A JOINT RESOLUTION "Proposing to amend Article X, Sections 10(A)(2) and 48(A)(2) of the Constitution of Louisiana, relative to the eligibility for preference points for veterans for civil service and state police service; to provide eligibility for veterans who served for a certain period of continuous service on active duty after a certain date and have served honorably in the armed forces of the United States; to provide for eligibility for preference points in the state police service for service during wars declared by congress; to provide that certain war periods and armed conflicts for eligibility for preference points for veterans for state police service shall be as provided by law; to provide for submission of the proposed amendment to the electors; and to provide for related matters."

Ballot No. 4
Act No. 928
Senate Bill No. 44

Amendment No. 4, Regular Session, 2004, A JOINT RESOLUTION "Proposing to add Article VII, Section 10.12 of the Constitution of Louisiana, relative to providing funds for the support of Louisiana farmers and fishermen; to establish the Agricultural and Seafood Products Support Fund as a special fund in the state treasury; to provide for sources of revenue, and for deposit and uses of monies in the fund; to authorize the legislature by law to provide for programs of assistance to Louisiana farmers and fishermen; to specify an election for submission of the proposition to electors and provide a ballot proposition; and to provide for related matters."
 
2004-10-20 10:52:26 PM
what are you saying, kilsejo? that i'm not a vegan? why did you ask if you weren't going to believe my answer?
 
2004-10-20 10:53:57 PM
What UNIXRAD said.

Passed in Minnesota with over 70%. Best way to let squeamish-types know they are in a definite minority.

If you're not allowed to hunt of fish the next thing they will only allow test-tube conception -- you know?



Here's Jack, Jr getting ready to 'help' filet a Walleye
 
2004-10-20 11:02:15 PM
oh, kilsejo, maybe i misunderstood.

i really am a vegetarian.
 
2004-10-20 11:13:09 PM
Becoming more and more irrelevant every day.

My F-i-L is big into hunting and fishing and as a retired farmer owns lots of land (crop and non-crop). Too many hunters have become such asshats he's not letting anyone he doesn't know well to hunt on his land. And he's by far not the only one. I seriously doubt this amendment trumps property rights.
 
2004-10-20 11:14:27 PM
...to preserve the freedom to hunt, fish, and trap, subject to regulation, restriction, or prohibition imposed pursuant to law...

Kinda renders the whole thing pointless, doesn't it?
 
2004-10-20 11:23:12 PM
bawanaal --
"Seems to me that hunting is a privilege, not a right."


Yea, everybody since the cavemen were really priviledged along with every other hunting animal on the face of the planet.

Priviledge?

Yea, only the King should hunt the King's deer.

Jeebus on a pogo stick.
 
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