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2004-10-19 01:50:17 PM  
Why is it asinine? A very important provision deciding if Arlington gets the new Cowboy stadium, is on the ballot... In other words, painting your face blue and wearing Cowboy gear would be electioneering. Also they are only doing this in Arlington.

I want the stadium to come to the Dallas FairPark area, myself...

/Fark Arlington
2004-10-19 01:55:08 PM  
State law prohibits voters at the polls with clothing, jewelry or badges that promote or denounce a candidate or proposition on a ballot.

Not asinine... its the law.
2004-10-19 01:59:33 PM  
If the suckers in Arlington will approve it, it'll be a lot closer to me.

/Fark Fair Park
2004-10-19 02:38:27 PM  
So 15 people can't vote. So?
2004-10-19 02:50:31 PM  
I don't see anything about Cowboys fans not being able to vote. They are just saying leave your Cowboys garb at home.
2004-10-19 03:00:50 PM  
so much for showing your support of an issue at a place of elections.... or something
2004-10-19 03:28:20 PM  
They made former First Lady Barbra Bush take off her W04 pin when going to vote.

Seems fine to me. At least they are making it known now and not November 2nd.
2004-10-19 05:14:16 PM  

If the suckers in Arlington will approve it, it'll be a lot closer to me.

/Fark Fair Park

Amen to that. Who in their right mind (and with a decent memory) can look at the unfilled economic promises of the ballpark and think that this is a good idea?
2004-10-19 05:27:15 PM  
Since when did the city of Arlington come to represent all of Texas?

And since when is prohibiting electioneering asinine?
2004-10-19 05:54:49 PM  
Only Cowboys fans who don't own any non-Cowboys clothing will not be allowed to vote. Why so much exaggeration in Fark headlines? It makes the submitter look like an asshat.
2004-10-19 06:40:26 PM  
Actually, they should ban all football gear since a shirt with, say, a Raiders logo could be veiwed as denouncing the proposition.
2004-10-19 08:11:37 PM  
WTF @ the stupid tagline.... they're not banning Cowboys fans, they're banning cowboys gear because of a Cowboys-related proposition...

someone biatchslap the submitter, please.
2004-10-19 08:12:35 PM  
This is something in Texas that actually MAKES sense. Go figure.
2004-10-19 08:12:43 PM  
let's be on the safe side here, and just ban clothing outright.
2004-10-19 08:14:57 PM  
Actually, I think they should let them wear whatever they want.

And count all the people who wear Cowboys gear.

Then count their votes against the proposal.

Because if a measure is supported by people dumb enough to be Cowboys fans, it deserves to be defeated.
2004-10-19 08:15:57 PM  
It's sad when posters don't bother reading the article.
2004-10-19 08:17:11 PM  
This isn't asinine at all!
2004-10-19 08:17:43 PM  
Why is it illegal to wear clothing that has something to do with whats on the ballot?
Are they afraid it will sway someone's opinion?
"Looky there Bubba, Mr. McCoy supports the cowboys. We better make the right choice here if we wanna get on his good side"
2004-10-19 08:19:28 PM  
Now lets see if the submitter actually shows his face in this thread.
2004-10-19 08:20:43 PM  
This just in...Texas is now considering allowing non-republicans to vote.

/flame off
2004-10-19 08:21:56 PM  
The Cowboys are America's team as much as Arlington is the state of Texas.

/Dolphins for life!

2004-10-19 08:22:43 PM  
Makes sense to me...
2004-10-19 08:23:36 PM  
Worst. Tagline. Ever.
2004-10-19 08:23:36 PM  
. . . America's Team . . .

America's team, my ass. You Texans can keep your Cowboys to yourselves. The rest of America will get along fine with the remaining NFL teams. Really.

How did they ever get that asinine nickname to begin with? Anyone know?
2004-10-19 08:25:10 PM  
Sooooooo . . .

Does this mean George W. Bush has to take off his face when he casts his ballot?
2004-10-19 08:25:21 PM  
It's the law. Deal with it, you whining pussies.
2004-10-19 08:27:30 PM  
I live in Arlington and will vote against it. They are promising a lot of crap that isn't going to happen. Jerry Jones will fark any city that builds him a stadium. Dallas and Irving turned down his package, Arlington city council are numbnuts enought to go for it.

/fark Jerry Jones
//build your own farking stadium
2004-10-19 08:28:44 PM  
Why is it illegal to wear clothing that has something to do with whats on the ballot?

it's considered electioneering and is against the law everywhere i've ever voted. at least within 50 ft of the polls. there are signs posted saying so.

looks like they polling palces are going out of their way to let people vote what with the smocks.
2004-10-19 08:31:23 PM  
Here in California, we can only go to the polls if we dress in such a way as to not reveal any stem cells.
2004-10-19 08:33:35 PM  
It seems a little lame... until you read the law. Then it makes perfect sense. Sorry guys, deal with it.
2004-10-19 08:33:43 PM  
What happens if a Redskins jersey-wearing-fan and a Patriots jersey-wearing-fan walk into a poll station at the same time?

//music cue of "the good, the bad and the ugly" heard in the backgournd
2004-10-19 08:34:51 PM  
Wow, the way the submitter lied you can guess they are voting Republican this coming election.
2004-10-19 08:38:22 PM  
Well, Cowboys fans shouldn't vote anyways. It's not a good idea to have loud drunk people casting ballots, someone could get hurt.
2004-10-19 08:38:23 PM  
Now now, lets not be too hasty, maybe the submitter did in fact read the article. . and he's just a dumbass.
2004-10-19 08:46:00 PM  
As a Bears fan and displaced Wisconsinite in Texas, let me say, "Fark the Cowboys."
2004-10-19 08:51:54 PM  
Not asinine... its the law.
Couldn't it be both?

/...although in this case, it isn't.

2004-10-19 08:53:58 PM  
let's be on the safe side here, and just ban clothing outright.

Sure, a great idea until you go to fry some bacon

2004-10-19 08:55:54 PM  
dumbest. headline. ever. poster needs bannination.
2004-10-19 08:58:43 PM  
this is asinine because...?

stupid Cowboys fans.
2004-10-19 08:59:10 PM  
Arugh... can we stop the stupid anti-'Boys crap? Just keep it to yaself. I'm in Tyler, think I'll wear my t-shirt to the polls just because I can.
2004-10-19 08:59:35 PM  
This sounds like typical [Texas] to me: push everything you do to the point of absurdity. Up here we have laws prohibiting posters, petitions, pictures and distributing campaign materials withing 150 feet of a polling place. If they went further than that, they would be rightly ridiculed, and their tea dumped in the harbor.
2004-10-19 09:01:53 PM  
Ummm, dumbest headline ever (for not being funny, not being correct, and for not being relevant to the tag).
2004-10-19 09:03:29 PM  
No where near asinine.
Just an atempt to keep Kerry's lawyers from screaming ballot tampering.
2004-10-19 09:05:12 PM  
"Why is it illegal to wear clothing that has something to do with whats on the ballot? Are they afraid it will sway someone's opinion?
'Looky there Bubba, Mr. McCoy supports the cowboys. We better make the right choice here if we wanna get on his good side'"

because electioneering is bad. Think of it this way: What if a bunch of Klu Klux Klansmen, in full white robes and hoods, and a flaming torch, stood in front of the entrance and threatened any blacks that tried to vote? What if someone with a realistic-looking super-soaker stood in front of a sign that said "I'll shoot anyone who disagrees with proposal Z" What if three hundred guys with "Support Bob" shirts all went to vote at once and then just kind of stood around for the next half hour? What if some unimportant local office (ie dogcatcher) was standing at the entrance saying "hey, remember to vote for me, too. Here, have some free chocolate."

All of these things would have a significant impact on the relavant ballot proposal. Either through making voters feel intimidated or making them vote for something they normally wouldn't vote for. Hence, there are laws against such tactics.

Presumably, you know who you're voting for when you go to vote. Other people aren't allowed to change your mind by force or coersion.
2004-10-19 09:08:39 PM  
let's be on the safe side here, and just ban clothing outright.

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"What an AWESOME idea!"

2004-10-19 09:09:27 PM  
Heh heh. Know why Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof?

'Cause even GOD loves to watch the Cowboys.


They're coming back to rule, you know.


Stop teasing me.

2004-10-19 09:11:40 PM  
I can see how having both the stadiums right there together seems like a good idea, but is $650 million(!!) really worth it?

I predict that the measure will fail miserably.

And wouldn't every game be a road game since they don't play in their own town? Shouldn't the the team be renamed to The Dallas/Fort Worth Cowboys?

# Ex-Dallasite. Ex-Arlingtonian.
2004-10-19 09:21:26 PM  
The headline is stupid. That is all.
2004-10-19 09:24:08 PM  

Tyler! Represent! ;-)

/Still think the Cowboys suck
2004-10-19 09:24:41 PM  
Actually this makes perfect sense. We have a law here forbidding campaigning within a certain distance from polling stations. As others have mentioned, the Cowboys have a big monetary interest in the outcome of this election. Wearing Cowboys clothing, in addition to making you an asswhipe, is in this case really no different than wearing a Bush t-shirt to the voting booth, which, incidentally, also makes you an asswhipe.
2004-10-19 09:34:05 PM  
noise_generator wins the thread. End of story. :)

/loves nerd-esque jokes
2004-10-19 09:35:18 PM  
Ok, so seeing Jesse and Jim-Bob in their silver and blue will influence other voters? This is just mindless adherence to the letter of the law.

Everybody repeat after me:

"Regulations are a poor substitute for good judgement"
2004-10-19 09:35:32 PM  
Old Texas law forbade wearing dark skin while voting.
2004-10-19 09:47:29 PM  

Are you kidding? These laws are there for a reason. You don't change the voting laws for one thing on the ballot. You enforce those laws to ensure they don't get weakened.
2004-10-19 09:47:38 PM  
And you wonder why the rest of the world stops whispering when you walk into the room...

/Thank your lucky stars you don't live in Paraguay, Marge.
2004-10-19 09:48:26 PM  
Actually after RTFA, It would seem to make sense.
2004-10-19 09:49:10 PM  
MrTwist has a point. They really should include Ft. Worth in their name. The Rangers use Texas as their geographic moniker, and while it represents a part of Texan heritage, it does the double service of representing the entire Metroplex area - Dallas, Arlington, Ft Worth, Las Calinas, Midland, Midlothian, et al.

My only worry is that a new stadium like that will redirect the Texas-OU game and the Cotton Bowl away from the Cotton Bowl itself, where God intended for those two games to be played.

And for those of you who enjoy looking down their nose at Cowboys fans, remember. The Eagles are the ones that need a magistrate on duty at the stadium. Browns fans decided throwing beer bottles and batteries was condusive to being a good fan.

/Proud son of a Purple Horned Frogs alum
2004-10-19 09:50:48 PM  

I'm in Tyler...

Do you want to die?

/Toadies fan
//wrong song
///Texan for 5 yrs
2004-10-19 09:51:22 PM  
My only worry is that a new stadium like that will redirect the Texas-OU game and the Cotton Bowl away from the Cotton Bowl itself, where God intended for those two games to be played.

2004-10-19 09:54:53 PM  
America's team? I'm from Texas and the Cowboys are faaaaar from the top of that list, imo.

/of course I'm from Houston, so I hate the Cowboys
//the Houston Texans suck too, though
///go Oilers
2004-10-19 10:02:48 PM  
No, I'm not kidding. I've been in the Air Force for 17 years. You wouldn't believe the hoops we have to jump through to make something "within regs" or to score well on stupid metrics that become meaningless as soon as the metric becomes more important than the product.

Yes, electioneering should be controlled. But if Ed the football fan shows up to vote with his Cowboys hat on, is he really trying to sway peoples' votes, or is he just wearing his favorite cap?

This sounds like some bureacrat found a way to apply a rule beyond it's original intentions and now "The RULE must be followed." It's very easy for bureaucrats to worship the rules rather than the results.

It's the same as running Ronald Reagan or Ahnuld movies during the campaign - it's just entertainment, people.
2004-10-19 10:03:57 PM  
just cuz it's law don't mean it ain't stupid
2004-10-19 10:05:49 PM  

"I want the stadium to come to the Dallas FairPark area, myself..."

I live in downtown Dallas, but I'm still registered to vote in Arlington. I'm going to put my one little vote toward your dream mjsmitho.
2004-10-19 10:06:06 PM  
go Oilers

2004-10-19 10:10:46 PM  
My problem was with the 'America's Team' designation. Since when? Since the media decided it and Dallas fans said that sounds good to them? No. The hierarchy of America's Teams in the NFL goes somewhat like this, and I'll rank as many as I can before I run out of teams that anyone at all could reasonably give the designation to:

1. Green Bay Packers
2. Pittsburgh Steelers
3. Chicago Bears
4. New England Patriots (because a lot of fans are sheep)
5. Miami Dolphins
6. San Francisco 49ers
7. Cleveland Browns (7 might be a bit low.)
8. Oakland Raiders
9. Dallas Cowboys (9th. But really, Packers through Bears are the only teams I can see actually competing for the title.)
10. Philadelphia Eagles
11. Denver Broncos (Again, 11 seems a bit low, but this is where they go for now.)
12. New York Giants
13. Kansas City Chiefs

That's really it. Carolina and Houston are moving up fast, but they simply haven't been around long enough to make the list. Minnesota and Atlanta just don't have enough staying power among their fanbase- too bandwagon-y. Jets? Seahawks? Give it a season or two.

Long story short, the Packers are America's Team. They're publicly owned (should the team fold, every penny they have goes to, I believe, an American Legion branch in Green Bay. They're the only ones who will make money off the sale.) Loyal fans, as evidenced by the insanely long waiting list (yes, the booing, but no fanbase could let a collapse like that go without some booing.) Name one other pro team that could survive in a city of under 100,000. Any team at all.
2004-10-19 10:24:02 PM  

That's a cute list Gosling. Of course your opinion doesn't mean squat.

Greenbay is Wisconsin's team, no doubt. You love 'em, great. But the rest of the country could care less about the Green Bay Packers.

The Cowboys haven't been around as long, but they have played in one out of every five Super Bowls (1 in 4.75 to be exact).

The Cowboys almost always near the top of the list of merchandise sales, even when they're losing. When they play in many stadiums, Cowboy fans outnumber the local fans.

Top 10 NFL Team Jerseys
2004-10-19 10:27:43 PM  
The. Most. Asinine. Tagline. Ever.

/Packers still suck
2004-10-19 10:31:27 PM  
Now if we could just prevent Yankee's fans from voting too the electorates' collective I.Q. would shoot up incredibly
2004-10-19 10:36:57 PM  
Ok, I'll say this does seem a bit asinine to me. If the shirt says the "Cowboys need your support" it would be electioneering. If you can't wear cowboys garb to the poll I hope the following are also prohibited:
1)Washington Redskins jerseys
2)Nascar gear
3)Any shirt with a word comprised of more than 7 letters (clearly not a cowboys fan)
4)Anything mentioning the sabbath

Perhaps if Arlington really wants to crackdown on electioneering, they can also prevent people from entering with ketchup stains on their shirt or white powder under their nose as those clearly promote one candidate over another.

That said, the cowboys suck....
2004-10-19 10:39:38 PM  
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2004-10-19 10:41:32 PM  
There were an awful lot of Steelers fans in Texas Stadium this past Sunday.

/not ALL Texans have bad taste...
2004-10-19 10:43:07 PM  
Thats nothing, you can be arrested for wearing cowboys gear in Oxnard, CA, where the Cowboys train.
2004-10-19 11:05:06 PM  
Fark the Cowboys!

/Eagles fan.
2004-10-19 11:24:45 PM  
In SC, the line for campaign material outside a polling place is 200 feet. Our county election commissioner regaled us with a story about a lady wearing a candidate t-shirt at the primary that she would have to take it off or turn it inside out. So she voted in her bra.

/had poll manager training on Friday.
//horny old men give me the creeps
2004-10-19 11:29:25 PM  
Clearly Americans are a bunch of farking dumbasses. Go Jebus!
2004-10-19 11:32:41 PM  
heh, Tyler, cool. :)

"America's Team" comes from those old NFL Films year-end highlight
shows about each team (ESPN and it's espnlets show 'em all the
time); the late great Texas E Schramm was on one of them, talking
about how everywhere they played, there were Cowboys jerseys in
the crowd, and it made them feel like they were America's Team
(f**k yeah!), or sommat. So that year's show went out as
"DALLAS COWBOYS: AMERICA'S TEAM", done up in rah-rah stars
'n stripes lettering, and the name stuck, for better or worse.

Arlington will probably get 'em. And they've been in Irving
for a good while now without being the Irving Cowboys...all
in all, I'm more excited about Lamar Hunt's new Frisco stadium...
2004-10-19 11:32:54 PM  
In Texas, carrying signs, petitions, handouts, buttons, or any other promotional material is prohibited near a polling center. I don't know the exact distance, but typically it's enforced so that none of that stuff is allowed on the property where the polls are. Around here, it's usually at one of the public schools.
2004-10-19 11:44:02 PM  
Arlington is really trying to be recognized as Arlington and not just some theme park between Fort Worth and Dallas. They made sure that whenever baseball was televised, the city's name was part of the name of the field, even when Ameriquest bought the naming rights this year.

The Ballpark in Arlington, now Ameriquest Field in Arlington actually paid its bonds back early...something like 4 or 5 years early.

So if another stadium brings that kind of revenue, then it's a good thing for Arlington.

Still won't waste my money on the Cowboys though.
2004-10-19 11:44:03 PM  
Ah, thank's for clearing up the origin of that 'America's Team' nonsense. I always wondered where that came from.

Still it's a pretty flimsy reason. People move around. There are fans of the visiting team at pretty much every NFL game.
2004-10-19 11:47:15 PM  
do you think if i wore an "i'm with stupid" t-shirt they would consider that electioneering for george w?
2004-10-19 11:51:36 PM  
2004-10-20 12:01:54 AM  
guywhore: No. Sarcastic comments are not necessary, either.

Very, very misleading title. I hate when people purposely make a misleading news title to make something seem more important than it is. For god sakes, it's one damned town that won't let them vote, there's a good reason, and all they have to do is leave their Cowboy crap at home! The only thing asinine about this article is the retard who submitted it.
2004-10-20 12:30:41 AM  
Clearly unconstitutional. Not to mention, of course, stupid. And most certainly asinine.
2004-10-20 12:44:11 AM  
I live in North Arlington, and if the Cowboys moving here would mean tearing down Division I'm all for it. fark Studer's and the Candlelight Inn. YOU HEARD ME!
2004-10-20 12:53:20 AM  
2004-10-20 12:55:10 AM  
Clearly unconstitutional.

Please point me to the part of the constitution that was violated.
2004-10-20 12:58:05 AM  
Being a Dallas resident, I won't be casting a vote for this, but I do have one question:

If I did live in Arlington, can I wear a shirt with a generic cowboy on it? How about a shirt with a single star in the middle? Who decides what is and what isn't "Cowboys attire" ??

Anyone who votes to have taxpayers foot the bill for the new stadium should be shot dead on the spot. Fark making other people pay for your endevour. Go out and raise the capital yourselves, then build your own stadium.
2004-10-20 01:03:14 AM  

I would guess he's referring to the 15th amendment.
2004-10-20 01:12:04 AM  
UNC_Samurai: Interesting, That's the first time I"ve ever heard anyone consider Midland as part of the Metroplex. Gee it's only 300 miles away :)

I just moved to Arlington. Unfortunately, I didn't get to re-register, so I will have to vote in Ft. Worth, so I can't vote against this tremendously stupid tax increase. If the Cowboys want a stadium, they can pay for the damned thing themselves! I mean they had a total payroll of over $81 million last year according to USA Today's salary database.
If they want to buy a new stadium, they can lower salaries, or lay people off like a real company would do! Or raise the ticket & food prices a couple bucks so the people who want to see the Cowboys can pay. But don't make those of us who couldn't give a shiat about it pay for it! ARGH!

I mean a half-cent sales tax. So if I had bought my car after this potential tax increase, even though I got a good deal on a used car, I would have paid an extra $340 on my $6800 car. I'm sorry, but the reason I bought a $6800 car is because I don't have an extra $340 to waste. Every dollar counts for me. I might just have to start doing my shopping in another town then...

2004-10-20 02:03:42 AM  
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2004-10-20 03:20:21 AM  
In other words, wearing a smock at the polls in Texas this November is the same as wearing a Cowboys shirt. But it won't matter, because people won't see the shirt, even though they'll know it's there. So it's okay. This kind of razor sharp Texas logic explains a lot about our foreign policy.
2004-10-20 07:44:32 AM  
Submitter is the Moran!~
2004-10-20 07:53:44 AM  
I mean a half-cent sales tax. So if I had bought my car after this potential tax increase, even though I got a good deal on a used car, I would have paid an extra $340 on my $6800 car.

2004-10-20 10:14:43 AM  
Submitter here. I realize that its the law. I still think it's ridiculous to not be allowed to vote just because you are wearing Cowboys colors. That's not the same thing as carrying a sign that says vote for the new stadium. And on top of it- they are providing smocks to people who happen to show up at the polls wearing colors? That's not asinine? So you show up wearing blue and silver, you walk up to the poll, they hand you a smock to cover yourself, you go in and vote, come out, return the smock, and then leave?

Ahh who cares anyway.

Here we go Steelers
Here we go!
2004-10-20 10:33:47 AM  

Midland, Mansfield, what's the difference?

/ glad my family didn't see my goof
2004-10-20 10:42:12 AM  
/Not the submitter. Not even a big football fan.

I could like the team, and even wear their greatly overpriced garments to show my support. I do this because I like the sport and chose this particular team as the one I will root for.

That does NOT mean I neccisarily think it's a good idea for taxpayers to fork over several hundred million dollars so that a bunch of millionaire owners can have their team play in a new stadium.

Where tax money is concerned, most people don't like to see it thrown around on things that private industry could handle themselves.
2004-10-20 10:58:50 AM  
It's not that hard, guys. I know you can go without wearing Cowboys stuff for one day.

/Cowboys fan, mostly
//Patriots are America's team until they lose
///one more thing:
[image from too old to be available]
2004-10-20 11:10:10 AM  
Come on, they signed Vinny Testeverde...they're doomed new stadium or not...
2004-10-20 02:23:37 PM  
\Fark Jerry Jones
\Fark the Arlington City Counsel
\Fark The Cowboys
\Fark raising may taxes to buy Jerry a new toy (when he has the money to pay for it himself)
\Fark I-30 traffic
\Fark 360 traffic
\Fark the Rangers and their stadium
2004-10-20 06:38:38 PM  
1. no one cares.
2. i submitted this with a better headline (and was told that was not being listed)
3. you also wont see any cowboy gear at any Super Bowl anytime soon.
4. Go Rams.
2004-10-20 07:51:26 PM  
i have spent 17 years and 10 months out of my 18 years and 11 months of my life living in Arlington, and personally, i sure as fark hope they don't get the stadium... traffic there is already bad enough.
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