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(Bloomberg)   Supreme Court rules Texas must redraw its congressional districts again. Texas Democrats have the plane warming up   (quote.bloomberg.com) divider line 110
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2004-10-18 12:22:20 PM  
Submitter should RTFA. The Supremes only sent the case back down the district court for reconsideration, but no decision has been made on the merits.
 
2004-10-18 12:23:52 PM  
Everythings bigger in Texas!
 
2004-10-18 12:24:24 PM  
So, how will they mess with things this time?

DeLaymandering blows
 
2004-10-18 12:24:29 PM  
You can't hurry law... boy, you'll just have to wait...
They say law don't come easy, it's a game of give and take...
 
2004-10-18 12:24:36 PM  
I'm a Texas Democrat, but that headline had me giggling anyway.

/Kerry-Edwards 2004!
 
2004-10-18 12:25:21 PM  
Having spent a good deal of time in New Mexico, I fail to understand what attraction it holds for Texas Democrats. Land of enchantment my ass.
 
2004-10-18 12:26:26 PM  
Funny headline.
 
2004-10-18 12:26:58 PM  
I think we need a new constitutional amendment that bans this undemocratic practice. All congressional districts should be drawn as straight lines of equal length across a state. Or maybe drawn with only 6 or 8 straight lines. And maybe done by non-partisan commisions. Something, anyway.
 
2004-10-18 12:27:49 PM  

" Texas Republicans, including House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, led the effort to break up some of the state's Democratic- controlled districts."


Funny. Having DeLay mentioned in an article is like seeing the bad guy in a movie walk onscreen for the first time. You wanna hiss at the person.


[image from internetweekly.org too old to be available]

 
2004-10-18 12:28:14 PM  
Wizzin,

All New Mexican's hate Texans regardless of their party affiliation.
 
2004-10-18 12:28:30 PM  
However, this was a funny headline. Maybe this time, the dems will head to Arkansas or Louisiana.
 
2004-10-18 12:28:55 PM  
We should just do a constitutional ammendment that makes the friggin districts in every state square and of equal geographical size (well as close as you can get), I understand there are population issues here but the constant gerrymandering in every state every year is retarded.
 
2004-10-18 12:29:26 PM  
They only granted cert retards...
 
2004-10-18 12:30:33 PM  
All New Mexican's hate Texans regardless of their party affiliation.

Yea, but do all twelve New Mexicans feel that way? I think not.
 
2004-10-18 12:30:50 PM  
Court decides
Democratic Gerrymandering = Good
Republican Gerrymandering = Bad
 
2004-10-18 12:30:58 PM  
Every time I head "supreme court" three words come to mind:

LONG DONG SILVER

/still crazy, after all of these years
 
2004-10-18 12:31:56 PM  
Nevermind- I'm the tard.
 
2004-10-18 12:32:15 PM  
LOL skinink
 
2004-10-18 12:32:54 PM  
When does Delay go to jail, or at least get kicked out of Congress?
 
2004-10-18 12:33:06 PM  
this would be a good time to own a hotel on the OKLA/TX border.

reapportionment is the most complicated thing on the planet this side of the space shuttle. you have computers than can district by house on a specific street and judges at every level breathing down your neck. you have to look at compactness, contiguity, population eveness, minority voting rights, then after you get something that is close to a compromise, you get sued.
 
2004-10-18 12:33:23 PM  
The districts are so rediculous here it's not even funny... alot like my spelling. The state laws says that districts must be contiguous, equal in population size, and cover similar public interests. That all sounds good and well, but leave it to legislatures to take that as make the most ass backwardly shaped districts. There's one that's about half a mile wide at one point and links two largely white communities and then the minority communities are split up among the richer white communities to minimize minority power. It's quite rediculous and sickening.

/middle class male white... but that doesn't make me any more important
 
2004-10-18 12:37:15 PM  
Gerrymandering is (one of the reasons) why the reelection rates of incumbants is greater than 90%. That's pathetic. The people in power are simply using their power to prolong their term in office. Without fair elections, we are not a democracy.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-279es.html
 
2004-10-18 12:37:27 PM  
Maybe Texans need to outsource their legislature
 
2004-10-18 12:37:44 PM  

Court decides
Democratic Gerrymandering = Good
Republican Gerrymandering = Bad


Nice troll.

Gerrymandering happens everywhere and it's unethical if not illegal. It only got this far in the court system because they were so extremely blatant about it the last time they redrew the district lines in Texas.
 
2004-10-18 12:38:30 PM  
too bad the US doesnt have an ounce of democracy left in it
 
2004-10-18 12:38:49 PM  
Anything a Republican does must be for the good of everyone and cannot be remotely attributed to self-interest, but anything a Democrat does must be in service to somebody else's agenda and is only a function of their self-interest.

They must really want lower taxes in Texas.
 
2004-10-18 12:39:20 PM  
When does Delay go to jail, or at least get kicked out of Congress?

He doesn't. Don't you know that Bush insider suck-ups are never held responsible for their criminal activity?
 
2004-10-18 12:39:55 PM  
regardless of your view on things, leaving the house and going across the state to block the vote is not the way to get things done.
the kid who takes his ball and goes home usually gets his ass kicked later in life.

/just sayin...
 
2004-10-18 12:42:08 PM  
Man, am I glad I don't live in Texass. What sucks is that Austin, where I do live, is completely surrounded by Texass. At least they let us run the state here for them.

The most liberal district in Texas was in Travis County (Austin), and it's now been split up (3-ways?). Annoying. I live in Austin proper, and share a district with some people on the Gulf coast, but not with coworkers.

For fear of wasting political-action energy here (we know who will win the Texass vote on 11/2), I have a group of friends who will early vote here, then travel to Florida to give low-income folks a ride to their polling place.

/smooth :)
 
2004-10-18 12:42:14 PM  
It only got this far in the court system because they were so extremely blatant about it the last time they redrew the district lines in Texas.

This is an unusual case on many levels.

IIRC, the redrawing of the lines after the 2000 census was never done by the legislature. They were unable to complete the process in the required time, so a panel of judges did it for them.

Then, when the GOP took over the Texas legislature, they decided to redraw the lines. There argument was that since the legislature hadn't drawn the lines yet, it was still entitled to do so. An intersting, and potentially valid, argument. The Dems position, naturally, was that the lines had already been drawn, and it didn't matter that it wasn't the legislature that did it.

Most of this got drowned out by the sideshow that followed, with the Dems going to the Ardmore Holiday Inn and the GOP putting the Dem's faces on milk cartons.
 
2004-10-18 12:42:23 PM  
Simple solution. Majority rules. Fark the electoral college.
 
2004-10-18 12:44:06 PM  
In Texas, the damn Democrats
Have their duty-evasion down pat:
If the rules get too funny--
They run just like bunnies--
But the problem: they always come back.
 
2004-10-18 12:44:16 PM  
Remeber: the term "gerrymandering" was named for a Democrat.

/Truly loves political flamewars, and the farkers that take them too seriously.
 
2004-10-18 12:44:42 PM  
One more thing, I am not sure what the deal is with congressional districts, why the hell dont' they just do it by geographical area?

Why does everything have to be so hard?
 
2004-10-18 12:46:51 PM  
I don't know, SpinalTapp, using that kid/ball metaphor implies that there was a game actually going on. In this situation it was more like a staight-up wedgie. There was no discussion, there was no debate, the republicans said "my way or the highway."

It was good to see some democrats not just roll over like they do in Washington all the time.
 
2004-10-18 12:47:16 PM  
Who needs dumb ol' Texas anyways...

/needs to lay off the spongebob
 
2004-10-18 12:47:19 PM  
I thought articles had to be at least a little funny to get greenlit. Why is that I send in an article about a police dog biting an innocent bystander elderly person while film crews are taping for a tv show and it doesn't make it on, and this troll-encouraging uninteresting article does?
 
2004-10-18 12:48:08 PM  
wait a minute - there's a NEW Mexico?
 
2004-10-18 12:50:19 PM  
There are democrats in Texas?
 
2004-10-18 12:54:54 PM  
Waterrockets:

I agree. I'm in San Marcos. Because of the DeLaymandering, I'm in the district that runs from south Austin to the border. San Marcos is part of Austin metro so that makes sense. San Marcos and the border towns have little in common though. Grrrr....
 
2004-10-18 12:56:14 PM  
As a resident of the original Gerrymander™ I can only hope that Texas gets straightened out.
 
2004-10-18 12:57:02 PM  
Remeber: the term "gerrymandering" was named for a Democrat.

I'd like to take this moment to give a shout out to my fellow dawg from Marblehead, Massachusetts, Eldridge Gerry.
 
2004-10-18 12:57:07 PM  
All these shameful things Democrats do to thwart democracy and support the terrorists are enough to make me vote for another stupid invasion or two.
 
2004-10-18 12:57:07 PM  
GorgeousOrifice
They must really want lower taxes in Texas.


Actually, our taxes are pretty damned low here in Texas, no state income tax helps.

Unfortunately, we're still dealing with the massive debt that Bush ran up while he was governor, an unfortunate precursor to the time he's spent in the White House.

3Horn
 
2004-10-18 12:57:19 PM  
Cyberluddite

"Submitter should RTFA" was exactly what came to mind when I read this headline. Actually they just need to get a clue in general, why do you think they bolted in the first place???!?

Austin was so gerrymandered that the repug's plan may have backfired. I know alot of pissed off people who are going to be damn sure they vote. Some of us already did today :) There's no more motivation that usual on the part of the repugs.

I wonder if the realization that alot of the money that funded this effort (from Tom "corporate biatch" DeLay) came illegally...
 
2004-10-18 12:58:13 PM  
Why don't those Texitards just make Tom "the Bug killer" DeLay their king and be done with it.

pssst...Texas...the rest of us are laughing at you.
 
2004-10-18 12:58:14 PM  
Remeber: the term "gerrymandering" was named for a Democrat.

not quite

[image from images.encarta.msn.com too old to be available]

Elbridge Gerry belonged to the Democratic-Republican Party. The Democratic Party did not exist until Andrew Jackson was President.

Nice troll though.
 
2004-10-18 01:00:44 PM  
Here's a quick chart explaining things:
[image from burntorangereport.com too old to be available]
the areas in red represent counties that don't give a fark
the areas in blue represent conties that don't give a shiat
 
2004-10-18 01:01:53 PM  
moops
Nice catch.
 
2004-10-18 01:02:55 PM  
Remeber: the term "gerrymandering" was named for a Democrat.

That's about as relevant today as pointing out that Lincoln was a Republican.
Both parties are so radically different from what they were 150 years ago, it scarcely bears mentioning.
 
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