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2004-10-04 09:07:57 AM
When you dream,
what do you dream about?
When you dream,
what do you dream about?
Do you dream about
music or mathematics
or planets too far for the eye?
Do you dream about
Jesus or quantum mechanics
or angels who sing lullabies?

/admiring the beauty of the song
 
GW
2004-10-04 09:15:29 AM
I think I am wierd, because I do not dream very much.

Or if I do, I don't know about it.

Then again, I hardly sleep very much, so that would explain it.
 
2004-10-04 09:15:38 AM
God feels sorry for me because of the lack of women... so he at least lets me dream about them- That's why.
 
2004-10-04 09:16:41 AM
Answer: We don't know. Who the hell greenlighted this?
 
2004-10-04 09:16:54 AM
Science makes me sleepy
 
2004-10-04 09:17:12 AM
I dreamed last night that I ate a pellow... and when I woke up my marshmellow had a huge bite out of it.

Strange, huh?
 
2004-10-04 09:18:33 AM
Thus we consider a possible function of a dream to be weaving new material into the memory system in a way that both reduces emotional arousal and is adaptive in helping us cope with further trauma or stressful events.


2004-10-04 09:15:38 AM Gaboo


God feels sorry for me because of the lack of women... so he at least lets me dream about them- That's why.


No you dream about women in order to reduce emotional arousal and help you cope with your future rejection.
 
2004-10-04 09:18:57 AM
The most honest answer is that we do not yet know the function or functions of dreaming

Ok, so what the fark is new ? Let us know when you have found the answer.

/just woke up after a whole night of dreams
//not terrible ones, but just "wierd" ones
 
2004-10-04 09:20:39 AM
When we were in college, we had a class in neural networks (comp sci meets psych). The prof has us design a computer simulation of a neural network, which simulates the connectionist theory of how the brain works. What was very interesting was that it could "remember" many things, all kind of jumbled on top of each other. At a certain point of "learning" it would start to get sloppy ("tired"). There was then an algorithm for sorting the thoughts back into a more managable pattern ("sleeping") at which time, there was a byproduct which was kind of cool. As the optimization ran, you would see some whole things that it had learned, and some parts of two or more different things. Basically, it simulated those strange dreams you have. It was fascinating to watch.
 
2004-10-04 09:20:51 AM
Waaaayyyy too much science on the main page for a Monday morning. I will need another pot (of coffee) to sort all this out.

/happy Monday all you Farkers!
 
2004-10-04 09:21:35 AM
why I Dream....

 
2004-10-04 09:22:03 AM
is anyone else getting tired of the "here comes the..." and the "your dog wants..." and "...surrenders".

i love and appreciate fark as much as any of us here, but man, the whole thing is becoming a cliche of itself. i avoid the forums because it's the same thing every single day, with the same people, typing the same words. it's like the Simpsons: they just repeat the same jokes and gags over and over and over. it just gets boring...

/end of spew (which is probably also cliched at this point)
 
2004-10-04 09:22:50 AM
There's still no explanation why my sheets are all wet.
 
2004-10-04 09:24:34 AM
For some reason this scene came to mind:

George- I have a dream!
Tom- What is your dream?
George- To have a dream!

/and it's been circulating and killing ever since...just like Pootie Tang.
 
2004-10-04 09:24:56 AM
Too many 'interesting' headlines on Fark.com this morning. Here comes the science...

/weak
 
2004-10-04 09:26:12 AM
Everyone knows what dreaming is for.
Defragmentation.
 
2004-10-04 09:28:06 AM


Of course you'll dream. All intelligent beings dream. Nobody knows why.
 
2004-10-04 09:30:01 AM
Sometimes I take 3mg of melatonin about an hour before bed. I have vivid dreams every time. Cool stuff..
 
2004-10-04 09:30:19 AM
I think you mean 'here comes the speculation'.
 
2004-10-04 09:32:27 AM
Funny thing is, I'm always asleep when I dream. Makes it hard to evaluate my dreams.
 
2004-10-04 09:33:09 AM
"incredible body hocus pocus. Nobody really knows why we do it"

Name the movie, farkers.

In realted news, can someone photoshop this? PLEESE!
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20041002/capt.sge.oqt20.02100407443 3.photo00.default-384x289.jpg
 
2004-10-04 09:33:25 AM
Scientists are hard up for anything to flap their gums about.
This is just mindblowingly dumb.

/2cent
 
2004-10-04 09:33:57 AM
My bad.

 
2004-10-04 09:37:41 AM
In dreams I walk with you.
In dreams I talk with you.
In dreams you're mine.
All of the time.
 
2004-10-04 09:37:52 AM
I'm with Sharkroy.. this isn't anything significant, just a scientist daydreaming about daydreams.

/i have invites, mail me at chris at NOSPAMstoptheinternet.org
 
2004-10-04 09:38:02 AM


A DREAM WITHIN A DREAM

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep - while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?

--Edgar Allan Poe
 
2004-10-04 09:39:02 AM
Whamdangler:

i'm not sure wtf you typed...but i think i got it...it was fluent, in a sense. but, i also liked the, "i am not ready to process this shiat quite yet" sentiment. it's all good. i need to sleep. come to think of it, i haven;t remembered dreaming for the past few mornings (3rd shifter)...i'm sure it's no big thang, but o hell i just need to sleep. what was this thread about?
 
2004-10-04 09:39:16 AM
"thinking has no function and is simply an epiphenomenon--the kind of mental activity that occurs when the brain is in the waking state"

Indeed.
 
2004-10-04 09:41:16 AM
I've always thought of dreaming as some sort of problem-solving activity. I have lots of dreams where I've got some sort of challenge--say, there's a guy in my house with a gun, that I'll replay over and over until I figure out a way to disarm him or run away. Almost all of the dreams I remember seem to have the same basic concept.

Laugh if you want, but when the shiat goes down, I'll know just what to do. Anybody else have these sorts of dreams, or is it all girls and falling and 'tidal wave/burning building/rape' stuff?

/Doesn't know why he commented
//Yes, xtynct, beautiful song.
 
2004-10-04 09:42:57 AM
CrazyHorse: Exactly, you beat me to it :)
 
2004-10-04 09:43:31 AM
And yet there is still no cure for cancer.

/obvious
 
2004-10-04 09:46:01 AM

Do androids dream of electric sheep ?


 
2004-10-04 09:48:24 AM
Whamdangler:

Tell me more. your little story is fascinating. what kind of things did you teach this program (if thats what it was)?
 
2004-10-04 09:50:16 AM
www.slowwave.com
 
2004-10-04 09:51:25 AM
xtynct

Secret track on the Stunt album from BNL. Nice.

/dreamed of my boss's license plate last night
 
2004-10-04 09:51:31 AM
Anybody else have these sorts of dreams, or is it all girls and falling and 'tidal wave/burning building/rape' stuff?
**************************************
My dreams are usually zombie attack dreams. Even before the recent wave of zombie movies out now. Very weird
 
2004-10-04 09:55:22 AM
I always sided with those who say that dreams are a form of "psychic garbage collection", that is, we're bombarded by so much sensory stimuli during the average day that we basically shut out on a conscious level, but collect on a subconscious level.

After a certain point, the nerve connections in the brain have to find a way to "coredump" as it were... almost like the pressure in a boiler that has to "let off steam"...

Hence the dream that is often comprised of a plethora of seemingly nonsensical events, though some of them are directly traceable to what happened in the subject's actual life, even seemingly insignificant images or sounds.

After intense dreams of especially random events and images I wake up feeling quite refreshed, as if "cleansed".

One of my ongoing intense dreams over the years is being able to fly and, while not able to totally escape, at least keep out of the reach of those attempting to apprehend me, either in the tops of trees or in the rafters of factories with high iron-beamed roofs.
 
2004-10-04 09:55:57 AM
"The most honest answer is that we do not yet know the function or functions of dreaming."

Well that toasts the entire article in the 3rd sentence. What a waste of space.
 
2004-10-04 09:56:16 AM
A buddy of mine took a Dream examination course for his senior capstone experience in college, and a lot of really interesting things came out of it.

For one, he said that the teacher claimed that if you wanted to remember your dreams, all you had to do was want to remember them. He said that everyone dreamed, most people just don't remember. Since it was a dream analyzation course, they needed dreams to analyze, so everyone was supposed to remember their dreams. To do that, everyone had to think to themselves that they wanted to remember their dreams every night as they fell asleep.

I know it sounds strange, but I tried it for awhile and I think that I remembered more dreams then than ever before in my life.

My buddy also told me of some messed up dreams some people had that send shivers down my spine.

I've had some crazy ones too, I'm sure we all have.

/don't know why I posted this ...
 
2004-10-04 09:57:06 AM
LoveInAction

You know the flying dream means a need for sexcual release, right?

/Just sayin'
 
2004-10-04 09:57:19 AM
My dreams are about either getting into frustrating arguments with people or running up against the cops.
 
2004-10-04 09:59:01 AM
So wild-assed guess, backed up with pretty much nothing, are OK if you have a science degree.

Sleep itself is a wild concept. Just about every living creature shuts down for about a third of its life, and no one really understands why. It doesn't seem to be to give the brain a rest, because the brain is just as, if not more, active during sleep.

A theory I've heard is that it's an evolutionary adaptation. Critters and cave men who were still for long periods of time didn't get eaten by big carnivores as much as those moving around and making noise, and eventually this evolved into sleep.
 
2004-10-04 09:59:23 AM
You know the flying dream means a need for sexcual release, right?

1) There's always someone who will argue that ANY dream is a need for sexual release.

2) I side more with Jung rather than Freud on that issue, namely, the need for spiritual awaking/release outweighs the sex thing.

3) I'd like to have sex right after such a dream, but BOY are my arms tired!
 
2004-10-04 09:59:52 AM
My dreams are about either getting into frustrating arguments with people

You dream about fark flame wars?
 
2004-10-04 10:02:12 AM
My dreams are so big they have their own dreams, and my dreams' dreams are bigger than your dreams!
 
2004-10-04 10:04:22 AM
culturemock: "All intelligent beings dream."

My dog dreams. House cats dream. What do you mean by intelligent?
 
2004-10-04 10:05:33 AM
I've been having really farked up dreams lately.
 
2004-10-04 10:07:22 AM
LoveInAction

Heh, I always thought it was a crock of shiat anyway.

Just a moment of asininity, that's all.
 
2004-10-04 10:07:42 AM
A theory I've heard is that it's an evolutionary adaptation. Critters and cave men who were still for long periods of time didn't get eaten by big carnivores as much as those moving around and making noise, and eventually this evolved into sleep.

That wouldn't really explain how man evolved into being able to best the big carnivores and take dominion over the planet. Very little improvement to mind or body occurs during sleep, aside from that rest and relaxation thing.

Also, with the sense of smell that most hunting animals have, a sleeping target is more easily acquired than an active one.

Plus, there'd be a lot more sloths and opposums hanging around!
 
2004-10-04 10:07:59 AM
What does it mean when you dream about the end of the world in various ways? I've watched nuclear bombs go off in perfect detail, regular bombs just carpetbombing the area, and so on. Also, whats this about flying dreams? Never had one, only falling, but I don't mind those at all.
 
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