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(Yahoo)   Taiwanese government asks citizens to drink less tea so that the country can afford to fund the military   (story.news.yahoo.com) divider line 42
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2004-09-21 09:10:45 AM
One less tea, fine... One less beer, no way.
 
2004-09-21 09:38:14 AM
"If you drink tea alone, you drink with Mao"

/didn't RTFA
 
2004-09-21 10:21:39 AM
Pearl tea is one of the most disgusting things to emerge from Asia ever! Bleh!
 
2004-09-21 10:52:40 AM
I hope one day our kids can read about the great Taiwanese Tea Party.
 
2004-09-21 01:30:10 PM
...Not for all the tea in China...
 
2004-09-21 01:33:00 PM
You dring all that you gonna be a hyper little biatch.
 
2004-09-21 01:34:35 PM
Setting a great example for America, Dick Cheney has pledged to drink one less barrel of crude oil each week, and will instead donate the money to buy new shoelaces for the National Guard.
 
2004-09-21 01:34:54 PM
Mmmmmmm....glutinous sago. Sounds....delectable.
 
2004-09-21 01:35:16 PM
I love green tea.

Everyday when I get home from work, I make a mug/bowl of green tea and pound it back. Ive got abuot 7 different varieties.
 
2004-09-21 01:35:56 PM
Best example of a false dichotomy ever.
 
2004-09-21 01:36:01 PM
They're saving up for this,
 
2004-09-21 01:37:44 PM
The island could not beat back an offensive by China. They'd have to be nuclear to do that. Still, I hope we turn a profit selling those goodies to them.
 
2004-09-21 01:39:35 PM
I said, they're saving up for this,

 
2004-09-21 01:40:47 PM
SpaceHerpe, I was about to jokingly ask if that was called "MechaGodzilla", but then I clicked on image properties, and found out that my guess was spot on.
 
2004-09-21 01:41:40 PM
Can't they fund the military like we do? With tax cuts?
 
2004-09-21 01:46:46 PM
Maybe they should take some tips from Dick Cheney and look to making revenue from eBay.
 
2004-09-21 01:50:05 PM
this is retarded. China could fart and blow Taiwan away. the only protection they have is what we give them
 
2004-09-21 01:51:14 PM
Can't they fund the military like we do? With tax cuts?

Detective Sandy V.,

If John Kerry was President of Taiwan, they wouldn't need a military. They'd fall under the legitimate and completely ineffectual protection of the United Nations - assuming the UN didn't just hand Taiwan over to China in the interests of peace and stability.

Just ask Kerry himself: a peaceful, murdering dictatorship is preferable to an unstable, insecure freedom.
 
2004-09-21 01:54:09 PM
Prussian Roulette
a peaceful, murdering dictatorship is preferable to an unstable, insecure freedom.

Exactly. That's why we keep giving money to Uzbekistan.
 
2004-09-21 01:56:08 PM
do i hear a tawainese tea party?
 
2004-09-21 01:59:49 PM
Hey, what happend to The Tea Party? Havent seen an album from them in a few years.


/clueless
 
2004-09-21 02:02:37 PM
This may be a dumb question, but why would cutting back a cup a week pay for the military stuff? Would the Tawainese give the extra dollar or how much it would have cost to the government? Does the government give the tea to people, and by asking for less tea consumption they can save money that way?

/co-worker is making me ask, she's not a farker.
//pardon the ignorance of simple minded folk.
 
2004-09-21 02:11:36 PM
Thelyphthoric
They just released a new album Seven Circles

doghouse reilly
Yes but you see....uh....Damn you hippie! Why do the facts hate America?
 
2004-09-21 02:17:15 PM
 
2004-09-21 02:19:50 PM
UncleBoB'sSun
Was kidding, but thanks.

That'll teach me not to post off topic.
 
2004-09-21 02:21:42 PM
hippieatheart,

From what I've been following on Azn news sources, it was more of making a point of "$28 billion isn't that much money, it only equates to 1 pearl milk tea per week per person" as a justification for spending that much money on the military.

Tell the average person you're spending $28 billion on national security (in a small country like Taiwan), and a lot of people will balk. Tell them it's the equivilent of $3 a week out of their pocket for the sake of national security, and suddenly it sounds cheap.

I think they are just trying to justify spending money they already have. Note that opposition parties in the article have other ways they want to spend the money. That makes it sound like the money is already in the gov't's hands.

I for one am all for selling weapons to other countries, especially Taiwan. Less taxes for me to pay ;).
 
2004-09-21 02:40:13 PM
For all the "china would roll over Taiwan" people, well, you're wrong. China isn't going to nuke Taiwan in any war of reunification. So with that option ruled out, their only real tactic would be either airbourne assault with a LOT of paratroopers, an amphibious landing or both. The best way to do a landing would be with some form of landing submarines, because china can't ensure air superiority, especially if our air power is in play. Put your troopships 100 feet underwater and they have a better chance of living. A surface invasion fleet would be toast in extremely short order from aircraft and surface to surface missiles.

So for Taiwan, submarines and sub-hunters make a lot of sense. If they expected an imminent invasion mining the crap out of their coastline (sea mines) would make a lot of sense, too.
 
2004-09-21 02:47:19 PM
Dummies.

They ought to do like we do in the US ............ just put an addition tax on everything people need or want.

Then again, Taiwan has a military?
 
2004-09-21 02:47:24 PM
Thank you ARGMANAH for clearing that us for me (us).

/Those sneaky bastardos
 
2004-09-21 03:07:12 PM
I guess I'm the only guy on earth that doesn't know what a "sago" is. Anyone? Bueller?
 
2004-09-21 03:08:27 PM
And yes, I know google exists. But y'all are darn near as fast, and provide pretty pictures or humorous antecdotes with your facts!
 
2004-09-21 03:21:27 PM
I was always under the impression that Pearl Milk/Bubble Tea were made from balls of Tapioca, maybe that's what Sago is. I've never referred to the balls as Sago, at least that's not in Chinese.
 
2004-09-21 03:22:03 PM
Clearly, the solution to all the world's problems continues to be 'arm whomever is your buddy today'. That strategy seems to be a winner.

BTW- Isn't China America's new best buddy, now that they're poised to become the US's largest trading partner, surpassing Canada? It's good to see that that whole Iraq 'human rights' pretext carries over so well into the rest of the foreign policy.
 
2004-09-21 03:26:17 PM
They'll get my tea when they pry it from my nice, toasty hands.
 
2004-09-21 03:30:33 PM
unyon,

They are, but China also realizes that the U.S. is critical for their own economy. Otherwise, where would they send all the cheap plastic shiat they make to?

Therefore, they don't really have leverage over us, because we have just as much leverage over them.

The whole "China vs. Taiwan" issue is all about China rattling their sabers every few years so as not to lose face. As comatose has pointed out, Taiwan is likely to have air superiority, making an actual invasion by air or sea unlikely, and it really doesn't benefit China to nuke/bomb Taiwan because the whole point of taking Taiwan back would be to profit from its economy.

The government officials in Taiwan who want an "free Taiwan" are the only stupid people, IMO. China isn't going to come in by force, they can't afford to. They are staying the fark out of your business in general. Right now, it's in both China AND the U.S.'s interest to protect your ass, so you have 2 superpowers watching over you, as opposed to 0 if you were independent. Maintaining the status quo is a huge advantage from Taiwan's perspective, which is all China can really do.

However, if Taiwan pushes too hard, China might be backed into a corner where they have to do something militarily or lose face. Why risk that when you get the best of both worlds right now? The freedom to govern yourselves, and the benefits of being under both the Chinese and U.S. umbrella.
 
2004-09-21 03:58:00 PM
So let's say everyone in the country donates one pearl tea. Imagine what kind of massive tapioca ball they could make. I'm imagining some sort of sticky human exterminator ala Fantastic Planet.

And now that I've thoroughly confused everybody, I'm off to Sweetheart Cafe to get a Sesame with Pearl.
 
2004-09-21 04:15:33 PM
I personally dont see pearl milk tea as a kind of "tea" that people drink everyday.
Its sweet, with lots of creamer and ice on top;
Even it use black or green tea as base, you can hardly taste any in it.
It costs about a buck by the way.
On the military issue, I believe most people think the odds against China is slim to none, which I have to agree, too.
Those people are just doing their job, you DO NOT simply give up your national defense because you know you got no chance.
 
2004-09-21 04:53:35 PM
Let me see if I follow this correctly:

The government (minjindang, aka DPP, aka a group of former protestors and human-rights lawyers) wants to spend more money on defense.

The opposition (guomindang, aka KMT, aka the folks who came over with Chaing Kai-Shek in the late 40s, tried to take the Mainland by force several times, and made Taiwan look like an armed camp with soldiers marching in the streets through the mid-90s) -- wants the money to be spent on education and social welfare.

Excuse me, but my head is about to asplode.

// Not being Taiwanese, I really don't have any opinion as to whether this is a good thing, I'm just sayin'.
 
2004-09-21 05:58:42 PM
What gets me is that there is any argument in the first place. It's like: "They are aiming 40 farking new farking missiles at us every farking month and they've got 2000 farking missiles pointed at us already. Are you out of your mind? Sell off granny's pension plan and start buying something that can shoot down missiles pronto! No farking arguments!"
 
2004-09-21 08:07:31 PM
Ummm... to whoever posted this article, Taiwan isn't a country. It's a province of China that just happens to have quite a bit more autonomy that the rest of them do.

China considers Taiwan a part of China, as does the United States, and most importantly, so does the United Nations. In fact, the only time China used its Security Council veto during the entire Cold War was to prevent aid from going to Guatemala, who at the time recognized Taiwanese diplomats as independent.

/Did a thesis on this subject in college
 
Mex
2004-09-22 01:03:30 AM
I was in Xiamen last week, where you can see Taiwan from the highest mountain in the province (meaning it's real close). Most of the people I spoke with (students and workers) spoke of Taiwan more as an annoyance than a threat.
 
BHK
2004-09-22 03:30:50 PM
They could always hold a bake sale.
 
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