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(CNN)   An Iceberg twice the size of Manhattan island has broken off Antarctica in search of a big ass ship to tousle with   ( divider line
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2002-02-08 06:30:07 AM  
Hoosier, are you old enough by any chance to remember all the screaming the environmentalists did about pollution from Soviet Russia back in the 70's/80's causing the destruction of the Artic ice cap?

Apparently much of the (admitedly) massive amounts of pollution Russian factories were pouring into the atmosphere was being carried by winds right over the pole (still may be for that matter). Enviro's claimed said crap would settle onto the ice pack => thereby absorbing more sunlight => thereby heating up and melting the ice => thereby raising ocean levels worldwide and destroying NYC.

Apparently Osama got tired of waiting for it.
2002-02-08 06:32:31 AM  
Labberdasher - Ice shelves are thick ice sheets covering sea, not land. They are, in a way, still a part of the surrounding liquid water volume, since it's just solid water. Ice won't produce much of a change in sea level once the structure breaks down into liquid, if at all. Ice covering landmass, on the other hand, is not displacing water. When it melts or calves into the surrounding water, it increases the total volume of the aquasphere, producing a corresponding rise in sea level. One or two bergs won't sink Manhattan, but if a significant part of the Antarctic coastline starts looking rather brown, move inland. Keep in mind, the average thickness of ice across Antarctica is about 400 m, reaching over a kilometre in places around the South Pole, so when that shiat melts, a lot of water will enter the aquasphere.

Water will evaporate into the atmosphere as well, increasing the water vapor level and possibly generating more cloud cover and precipitation. If you have a chunk of ice on a random hill and it melts, the water will either seep into the ground or enter the atmosphere. It doesn't just disappear, and a large amount of water liquifying and evaporating in a relatively short period of time can have large consequences. Hence, the reason why some climatologists watch the Antarctic ice sheets like hawks.
2002-02-08 07:11:58 AM  
maybe it will run into Monica Lewinsky's ass, that's big enuf
2002-02-08 07:21:59 AM  
2002-02-08 07:22:45 AM  
Bah !!! did not come oot
2002-02-08 07:30:12 AM  
Margaritas for days.
2002-02-08 07:39:03 AM  
We'll get Utah to hand over the salt...?
2002-02-08 07:40:39 AM  
Do they have Kosher salt in Utah?
2002-02-08 08:02:42 AM  
I've found this whole thread to be very entertaining. Especially since it's just about ice.
2002-02-08 08:06:28 AM  
When I was in 5th grade my "Weekly Reader" had an article about tugboats dragging one of those giant slabs of ice up to L.A. so it would be a cheap source of pure water.

Wonder if that'll ever happen...
2002-02-08 08:35:38 AM  
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Check out the beat while my DJ revolves it!"
2002-02-08 08:59:42 AM  
PlatinumDragon - thus causing a nuclear winter to counteract the greenhouse effect, so everything will be all right.
Eh, I was just taking the piss. I *like* the idea of the aliens, though. I'm thinking of having a tin-foil-hat party this evening.
Yerseeee ... the trouble is that the *aliens* have control of the death star, so we'll have to don The Protection (TM) to plot how to overthrow them ... and then ... blammo ... sweet blast area Alabama.
Or the omelette. Omelettes are cool. Mmmmh. Australia omelette.
2002-02-08 09:01:18 AM  
"An Iceberg twice the size of Manhattan island has broken off Antarctica in search of a big ass ship to tousle with"

Never mind the ships..What if a sucker this size decides to get close to a populated coastal area. It could really fark things up.

Praise Sol Rosen-ice-berg.
2002-02-08 09:07:46 AM  
Let's all go to the lobby, to get ourselves a treat!

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2002-02-08 09:25:27 AM  
I'm no environmentalist, so could someone please set me straight on greenhouse gasses?

Greenhouse gasses work by trapping heat in the Earth that would otherwise have been lost by convection... but the Earth doesn't lose heat by convection. It's sitting in a vacuum.

The only way an object in a vacuum (AKA a thermos) can lose heat is by the emission of infrared radiation, which greenhouse gasses do not block, otherwise the point would be moot since those selfsame gasses would be preventing the Sun from adding heat to the Earth in the first place, since the Sun also only adds heat to the Earth by infrared radiation and not convection due to the vacuum between the Sun and the Earth.

So what exactly are greenhouse gasses supposed to be doing?

I apologize for my very long run-on sentence.
2002-02-08 09:30:55 AM  
Greenhouse gases reflect infrared radiation back onto the planet instead of letting them escape into space. Scientists believe that this is one of the main reasons why the surface of Venus is hot enough to melt lead.

Of course, whether or not this is occuring on our planet is up to debate.
2002-02-08 09:35:50 AM  
If they reflect infrared radiation back to our planet, why don't they reflect it away as well?
2002-02-08 09:49:04 AM  
The problem with this is that more icebergs will break off, and as they melt they will raise the sea levels drastically.
It probably won't happen in our lifetime, so continue to not care, if you wish.

The surface of the earth has been changing for billions of years. Sometimes we have more water at other times we have less. The earth does what it wants to and does not listen to us humans. Get over it. Did you expect our current landscape to stay the same forever? DUH!

More greenhouse gasses are released every single year from volcanos then all of the greenhouse gasses man has ever relased in our entire existance.
2002-02-08 09:52:50 AM  
MediaMadeMeKill: More greenhouse gasses are released every single year from volcanos then all of the greenhouse gasses man has ever relased in our entire existance.

This is the kind of stuff I've been looking for! Could you please provide the source you got this information from? This kind of thing never gets news coverage because it stops panic. The media just wants to cause panic.
2002-02-08 09:55:17 AM  
Reports have come in that this massive iceberg was heading towards a glass of whiskey the size of california...
2002-02-08 09:55:58 AM  
It does, what is radiated into space is infrared, coming from things heated by non-infrared light.

Completely true, but some man-made greenhouse gases have much stronger effects (1000 times and more) than most naturally occuring ones.
2002-02-08 10:21:14 AM  
Stuff and nonsense, says I. If this big horkin' berg melts, won't the resulting liquid disperse over the entire volume of available water on the planet? Put some water in the tub to represent the world's oceans. Then put a representative amount of ice in the tub to serve as this massive killer berg-o-fun. Does the level of water in the tub increase dangerously?
2002-02-08 10:45:33 AM  
Vegasj: was that a reference to the Simpsons episode when Marge buys the wrong paper towels?

I'll bet the real estate prices on the iceberg are lower than they are in Manhattan (which is approx. 12.4 miles long and about 3 miles wide at its broadest point, by the way).
2002-02-08 11:03:20 AM  
A berg of that size will stick around for a LONG time. Though my guess is that it will start breaking up soon, that is alot of torque. Twice the size of Manhattan? That is a massive object.

And unless it breaks up into tiny bits... there is no way in hell anyone is going to tow it anywhere. They can break off chunks though and sell it to those stupid Japanese water companies.
2002-02-08 11:28:17 AM  
The problem with icebergs breaking off and melting isn't rising seawater; its the dumping of all that freshwater into the ocean and changing currents, effecting the mid-atlantic conveyor duh.
2002-02-08 11:37:20 AM  
Uhhh, ice bergs in water melting into water will not raise the sea level.

Now, ice bergs breaking off *land* and melting into water will raise sea levels.
2002-02-08 12:07:38 PM  
As long as I don't have to hear Celine Dion sing, this is cool with me.
2002-02-08 12:57:11 PM  
There goes my surfing vacation in the Wedell Sea. Maybe next year...
2002-02-08 02:24:12 PM  
there goes hawaii
2002-02-08 02:32:22 PM  
At least the media is finally begining to acknowlege that there is much divison in the scientific community about global warming. The earth is smoother then a billiard ball?? where did that come from??
2002-02-08 02:47:51 PM  
Need to tow this thing to Finland. They make a special vodka there with glacial water. name escapes me but it was some heavy fuel.......
2002-02-08 02:50:43 PM  
I'm sorry but just have to commend whoever posted this headline. The title was hilarious!
2002-02-08 02:59:43 PM  
I think its Dr. Evil's camo-submarine.
2002-02-08 03:11:30 PM  
This isn't too bad. There's an iceberg known as B-15B that is the size of Delaware down near Antarctica. That's a crazy iceberg!
2002-02-08 03:51:56 PM  
Favillion: Yes, and I declared it in the name of Fark earlier. It is now known as the Farkland Island, and shall be defended at all costs. However for the right price, perhaps a deal could be arranged with Finland for use in making Vodka, as ice is our only tradeable commodity.
2002-02-08 11:49:20 PM  
soooo...scientists think greenhouse type gasses are the main cause of enough heat on Venus to melt lead?
well call me stupid...i thought it was cuz it was a wee bit closer to the big fire. duh
2002-02-09 10:08:21 AM  
Vman - work it out. The largest dent in the earth is the billard-ball equvalent of 0.06 mm, or 0.1 mm if you put mount Everest and the wossisname trench side-by-side, the Rockies would be 0.025 mm.
Gaia - a couple of million years old, skin still smoother than a baby's ass.
2002-02-10 08:39:20 PM  
"An Iceberg twice the size of Manhattan island has broken off Antarctica in search of a big ass ship to tousle with"

That's TUSSLE, not TOUSLE.

TOUSLE To disarrange or rumple; dishevel.
TUSSLE To struggle roughly; scuffle.

Reminds me of the argument I had with a friend, who insisted that her hair was `tussled'.
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