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(Boston Globe)   Votes not counted in election because voters might pass medical marijuana law   ( divider line
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2002-02-06 12:27:57 PM  
Barr is great. He was adamant that Clinton be impeached, yet he cheated on his wife also.
2002-02-06 12:29:01 PM  
2002-02-06 12:29:20 PM  
Ah, the ACLU. This oughta be a good thread
2002-02-06 12:30:07 PM  
democracy... my ass!
2002-02-06 12:30:35 PM  
I'm confused about something...

As I understand it, it is possible for labs to synthesize (or extract, perhaps) tetrahydracannabinol (THC), the active ingredient in marijuana. While I'm sure that the "hit" from a pill is less potent and has a slower onset, surely it would be as efficacious as smoking a joint and have fewer side effects?

Can somebody shed some light on this matter?
2002-02-06 12:30:40 PM  
Who cares? People will smoke reguardless of the law.
2002-02-06 12:31:26 PM  
Deja Vu.

sounds like the Republican coup seizing control of the US by forbidding counting of the ballots.
2002-02-06 12:31:57 PM  
This is nothing new to those of us that live in Oregon. Here voting is just a formality; no matter what laws we pass, Ashcroft just over-turns them.
2002-02-06 12:31:57 PM  
How did the 'Liberal' press keep this story from me? Certainly this is a great case for bashing conservatives, yet they didn't really publicize this story...
2002-02-06 12:32:21 PM  
Come on Bob, let the AIDS suffers and Cancer patients get stoned. As Republicans, we say we want "Government out of our lives", lets start by staying out of their homes and lungs.

Figures, he is from that Cracker state.
2002-02-06 12:33:05 PM  
Oh, goody! I get firsties on the popcorn.

***crunch, crunch, crunch***
(NO, I don't have the munchies!
2002-02-06 12:34:36 PM  
Don't bogart those chads.
2002-02-06 12:34:39 PM  
Libertarian = Republicans who smoke pot
2002-02-06 12:36:06 PM  
Im a fugitive in my own country because I chose to smoke. I am NOT truly free in this country.
2002-02-06 12:37:04 PM  
Folks, I'll say it again: Democracy just doesn't work.
2002-02-06 12:37:39 PM  
I love my country.
I hate my government and the people that occupy it.
Everyone knows the alcohol and tobacco organizations/businesses pay off the politicians to keep marijuana not legal.
Why do you all think Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms were elected into office for so long.
They are from the Carolinas.
The biggest export from the Carolinas?

Just fuggin LEGALIZE IT already and pardon all those people thrown in jail for possession of cannabis.
This is so FUGGIN' BOGUS !!!
2002-02-06 12:37:40 PM  
2002-02-06 12:37:42 PM  
"While I'm sure that the "hit" from a pill is less potent and has a slower onset, surely it would be as efficacious as smoking a joint and have fewer side effects?"

Actually, the complaints of people using Marinol are mostly about them being 'too stoned'. The nice thing about smoked or vaporized pot is that one can meter the dosage as it's being 'administered'.
2002-02-06 12:38:06 PM  
"Folks, I'll say it again: Democracy just doesn't work."

Especially if those with the power use it to ensure that.
2002-02-06 12:38:14 PM  
A speedfreak, an acid casualty and a pothead die and go to the next world, which is a massive wall, on one side of which is the best party ever, and on the other, wasteland.

They are in the wasteland.

The acid casualty says, "Like, hey... let's hehe, let's take some... wow. Yeah, anyway, why don't we... all... take like, loads of acid... and fly over the wall?"

The speedfreak responds, "NoI'lltellyouwhatwe'lldoright... we'llalltake, like, loadsandloadsofspeedandthen SMASH throughthewall..."

After a while the pot-head looks up with a hopeful grin and goes, "Guys... look... why don't we just, like, skin up... and do it tomorrow?"
2002-02-06 12:38:32 PM  
We have become what we revolted against over 200 years ago.

Game over.
2002-02-06 12:41:09 PM  
DoctorCaligari: how do you figure that?
2002-02-06 12:41:37 PM  
One day I know we will legalize it.

It's just sad that America will wait to follow someone else's lead.

Write your congressman/woman. Message boards only help the cause so much.
2002-02-06 12:41:46 PM  
Oh, did I mention the situation is a crock of shiat? I remember this happening on DC a few years back. The vote was 60% or so in favor of med-mj but the vote was nullified. Farking US politicians. Glad I live in Canada. But then again, the medical approval process is as much a crock of shiat. The last thing I need is a politician telling me the evils of a drug that saves my life every day. Morons.
2002-02-06 12:41:49 PM  
Vote Harry time....
2002-02-06 12:42:36 PM  
Awwwwwful lot to read there...

I better roll me a fatty and get readin'....
2002-02-06 12:43:23 PM  
Remember kids, the Republican cry of states rights only applies when states are passing laws the Republican party approves of.
2002-02-06 12:44:09 PM  
Personally, I don't like pot....but then I get free drugs (ritalin, adderall, xanax...).......and unnlike Noelle Bush, I have a practicing doctor who calls in my perscriptions......
2002-02-06 12:45:30 PM  
Washington, D.C. - Taxation Without Representation. There was a movement to have that put on the license plates. It's completely wrong, and I'd love to see the citizens circle the Capitol and refuse to allow Congress to leave until this is changed.
2002-02-06 12:46:11 PM  
Just elect me despot. It'll make things all better.
2002-02-06 12:46:51 PM  
warmbeer, I thought they did have that on the plates already?
2002-02-06 12:46:59 PM  
Timothy: There is a marijuana 'pill' made from synthetic THC. It's called Marinol (generic: dronabinol) and is given to cancer patients and similar, for nausea and pain relief, just like medical marijuana. There are some serious problems with Marinol compared to smoked marijuana, though. Chief among these is the fundamental problem with giving someone a _pill_ for severe nausea. It takes 2 to 3 hours for the pill to kick in.. and if you can keep a pill down for 2 to 3 hours, then you probably don't have severe nausea.

Second problem is that compared to smoked THC, it packs a PUNCH. (This is just what I've read, I've never seen it) Patients report being so high they're incapacitated for upwards of 24 hours. Stoners know that if you're that high, it's rather unpleasant.. imagine how that would be for someone who's more interested in the medicinal effects than the high. This has led some paranoid (heh) medical marijuana advocates to accuse the government of 'poisoning the well' by giving THC a bad name with Marinol. At any rate, it's not widely prescribed or used (or abused!).
2002-02-06 12:49:06 PM  
3 "I's" and 1 "my"

ooops, thinking too loud
2002-02-06 12:49:55 PM  
You can't simply pull the plug on Grandma, that would be murder. But you can't ease her suffering, either, because drugs are bad, mmmkay?
2002-02-06 12:50:11 PM  
US drug laws suck giant flaming donkey balls
2002-02-06 12:50:17 PM  
our government is so hypocritical . . . politicians are afraid to legalize pot because so many of them smoke it. if pot was legal and they started smoking it in public, it would totally embaress and belittle the government.

at least that's what I think
2002-02-06 12:52:08 PM  
El Cerdo Loco: I'll be damned, you're right! Since over a year ago. I can't believe they pulled it off...
2002-02-06 12:52:10 PM  
It's supposed to be humorous. (I thought it quite amusing when I first heard it!) The idea is that, to a large extent, it seems that Libertarians have a largely conservative bent, less taxes, less government spending, but unlike Republicans proper, they are vigorously in favor of applying laisez faire principles not just to business entities, but to individuals as well. Up to and including such things as letting individuals make their own choices about recreational drug use, prostitution, etc.
Not sure if you really didn't get it, or you take exception.
2002-02-06 12:52:16 PM  
"Personally, I don't like pot....but then I get free drugs (ritalin, adderall, xanax...).......and unnlike Noelle Bush, I have a practicing doctor who calls in my perscriptions......"

what does that mean?

are you on all that crap legitimately, or are you bragging about being an addict with "connections"

I don't get it.
2002-02-06 12:53:44 PM  
It's almost as good as "Live Free or DIE!"
2002-02-06 12:54:37 PM  
Vtgoddess: It's only illegal because the tobacco, alcohol, and pharemceutical companies don't want the competition. It's all blatant corporate interests, end of story.
2002-02-06 12:55:12 PM  
This guy depresses me a lot. Lincoln was a complete teetotaller, yet vehemently opposed prohibition. Why? Because he was not letting his personal biases dictate his public policy making. AT NO POINT in this guy's thinking does he sit down and say to himself "hang on a minute, I am actually about to stop people from voting" when the issue at hand is his personal opinion that marijuana is bad. I think he might need to be reminded of the meaning of the terms "representation" and "public servant". coont of a man.
2002-02-06 12:56:14 PM  
Bad_CRC step away from the 2cents and nobody will get hurt.
2002-02-06 12:56:14 PM  
Here's this asshead's email: b­arr­*ga[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­ia­m*ho­us­e­*go­v
2002-02-06 12:56:22 PM  
I don't even do anything harder than tequila and I think our drug laws suck. Government can farking sieze your possesions and sell them off before you've even been convicted. What the fark ever happened to the farking 5th amendment?
2002-02-06 12:56:53 PM  
WarmBeer: So why don't the tobacco, alcohol, and pharemceutical companies just take part in the production and distribution. Then everyone would be happy. I think that is a valid but weak arguement.
2002-02-06 12:57:08 PM  
Thanks Riverrat.....

Bad have ADHD, big surprise.....need adderall...has the 'speed' effect on everyone else, but just makes me "normal"...... xanax for flying.....I don't like flying.....
2002-02-06 12:58:33 PM  
I am filled with admiration for our brave and wise fascist overlords! (That was supposed to be humorous, what do you want, a smiley?)
2002-02-06 12:58:57 PM  
The following paragraph can be contstitued as an act of treason. Do not read...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness"

This is from the Declaration of Independence. Too bad it is not Constitutional.
2002-02-06 12:59:17 PM  
Get used to it, pols cancelling elections because they don't like what the outcome might be is fast becoming a reality in Bush Country.
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