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		Old fart shows burgler that breaking in can be dangerous. House insured by smith & wesson (telegraph.co.uk)		205
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Av8rLuvr		2004-09-04 01:15:48 PM

Good for him. I have a Browning Over and Under by my bed.

/feelin' safe

lurkedlongenough		2004-09-04 01:35:14 PM

Oh, but what about the poor burgler's rights? He should be able to freely break in without fearing for his safety. At least this is what my college law professor tried to argue.

therealblankman		2004-09-04 01:35:35 PM

BurglAr.

CB		2004-09-04 01:35:37 PM

Gun control, hitting what you aim at.

Miskatonic University		2004-09-04 01:37:31 PM

Hate to thread jack but there's been an explosion at L.A.'s airport..

dserhal		2004-09-04 01:37:35 PM

What about the burglars childhood?

Evil, mean, horrible homeowner!

ishot2pac		2004-09-04 01:37:41 PM

I love stories like this.

dserhal		2004-09-04 01:39:10 PM

Miskatonic University go to main page http://www.fark.com and its about 5 headlines before this one.

Miskatonic University		2004-09-04 01:39:16 PM

The explosion at LA airport.. there's no news on the net yet, only on TV..

Sarge6		2004-09-04 01:39:23 PM

Got me

Remington 10 Ga.
Winchester 12 Ga.
Remington 30-06
Smith & Wesson .357 Mag (Stainless)
Charter Arms .38
Taurus 9mm
Remington .22LR

/waitin for a break in

Commander_Keen		2004-09-04 01:39:37 PM

Ho-HO!!!!

I spy a flamewar on the horizon!

Ghost Rider		2004-09-04 01:39:38 PM

Dancin...?

Miskatonic University		2004-09-04 01:40:03 PM

What? I googled and nothing came up but some dumb volcano stories!!!

dserhal		2004-09-04 01:40:28 PM

sorry, seven headlines before this.

lurkedlongenough		2004-09-04 01:40:33 PM

GaryPDX I agree. my attempt at humor.

Miskatonic University		2004-09-04 01:41:09 PM

Lol I should have checked Fark first!

/slinking into corner

Dancin_In_Anson		2004-09-04 01:43:44 PM

I love a story with a happy ending.

nodus		2004-09-04 01:43:55 PM

Sarge6

So you want to be a killer?

C-Nut		2004-09-04 01:45:17 PM

Miskatonic University

You should've checked Fark first. H.P. Lovecraft wouldn't be terribly impressed at your investigative skills today.

/I kid, because I love... Lovecraft!

daz		2004-09-04 01:46:05 PM

It's a shame too. This older gentleman would've been much safer if the Democrats had taken all his guns.

Lenny_da_Hog		2004-09-04 01:46:44 PM

Released without charges!?

Oh... It's in the UK. That would never happen in the US. Too many career-minded prosecutors.

Sarge6		2004-09-04 01:49:07 PM

Nodus

Rather have the tools and NOT need em rather than need them and NOT have them....ifyaknowwhatimean?

Besides, I do a lot of hunting...

/Ex Military

bubbaprog		2004-09-04 01:50:41 PM

Never mind the dozens of stories, including one right here in Tampa last week, where people have "shot first and asked questions later" and realized they shot and killed their child.

I guess in a way it's Darwin at work.

Czechsmix		2004-09-04 01:51:28 PM

Gun control means using TWO hands

emocomputerjock		2004-09-04 01:51:29 PM

Wait, the old man wasn't charged? How can this be? It's all his fault the guy got shot!! The old man repressed the burglar! Ban all guns now!!11!!1111!

I'm actually surprised the old man wasn't charged, whatever happened to the good old days of civil suits?

Maturity isn't about being a grown-up, it's just how much unbelievable stuff you see happen.

Sarge6		2004-09-04 01:51:35 PM

Nod to you GaryPDX

::Grin::

Magnanimous_Spirit		2004-09-04 01:52:16 PM

No guns for me, I prefer things to be more personal, my weapon of choice is chinese war sword beside my bed. Some one breaks in....they'll never find all the pieces.

Galland		2004-09-04 01:52:52 PM

This is a great story. Someone in the British legal system has apparently taken a stab at reestablishing some sanity in regards to how they handle self defense cases. He shouldn't have been arrested at all, but he is getting better treatment than Tony Martin. This is progress.

Lenny_da_Hog		2004-09-04 01:53:31 PM

Nevermind the thousands of thugs who've considered breaking and entering as a viable career path, then re-thought; "You know, you could get shot doing that...."

MalteseFalcon		2004-09-04 01:54:27 PM

21-7-b		2004-09-04 01:55:15 PM

you guys are too sheltered, imo. i'd feel a pussy if i even had to use a knife. you've got to live on the edge. sheesh

Dancin_In_Anson		2004-09-04 01:55:54 PM

Currently in the vehicle:

1911 .45cal
Winchester 94 .30-.30
2 Marlin model 60 .22s
1 Remington 870 youth 20 ga shotgun
1 Winchester 1400 12 ga shotgun

In the house:
Colt .357 revolver
High Standard .22 auto
another model 60
another 870 youth
a few different Smith and Wesson Revolvers
Some nice antique collectables
H&R bolt action 12ga
Come by sometime nodus...we can squeeze off a few rounds...

FarkingInTheFreeWorld		2004-09-04 01:57:30 PM

This looks like a job for:

Magnanimous_Spirit		2004-09-04 01:57:33 PM

TO GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES, post a sign in your yard saying:

"This is a gun free home."

21-7-b		2004-09-04 01:57:37 PM

pussy

Sarge6		2004-09-04 01:59:10 PM

Dancin_In_Anson...

You got me beat, my hat is off to ya. Course I did just sell 3 of my babes...

/feelin naked

C-Nut		2004-09-04 02:00:02 PM

Sorry nodus, but Sarge6 is right. Sorry to steal from you, Sarge, but I thought it needed repeating.

Rather have the tools and NOT need em rather than need them and NOT have them.

The same reason my home is insured by my standard-issue 1911 .45 pistol. (close quarters only). If he gets out the front door, I can pick a flea off a camel's back @ 100 yds with my 1898 Mauser bolt-action rifle. Both quality weapons.

/WWII fanatic, military historian, gun nut.

nodus		2004-09-04 02:01:06 PM

Sarge6

Well your last message gave the impression that you like to kill people.

Farko_Polo		2004-09-04 02:01:25 PM

Galland,

The Crown Prosecution Service (a govt representative) was formed to take the responsibility of prosecuting people away from the Police (who represent(ed) the citizens). Since they are a govt org, they are politically motivated. They will not prosecute unless they are pretty sure they'll get a conviction nowadays, cos it looks bad on their statistics.

Peter Hitchens's "The Abolition of Liberty" is very informative on this.

My guess is that self-defence is too devisive an issue at the moment, especially after Tony Martin and the Radio 4 poll (which called for a law allowing people to use whatever force necessary against burglars), that they don't want to touch it with a bargepole. It can't /really/ be due to lack of evidence! Self defence is an issue on which the ruling "elite" with their 24hr armed police protection and those that actually live in the real word differ somewhat. They're gonna have to let us defend ourselves eventually, but it won't be for a while, since it is against their whole plan of "social engineering" in which the offender is the real victim, and the property that is being stolen is probably "theft" anyway!

No Catchy Nickname		2004-09-04 02:01:26 PM

Interesting. The circumstances are quite similar to the Tony Martin case:
rural location (i.e. slow police response time)
guy burgled many times
shot the intruder as he (intruder) was trying to escape

Yet the outcome is totally different. I wonder if the CPS are worried about the possible public backlash. Of course, unlike the Martin case, no one was killed this time.

C-Nut		2004-09-04 02:04:43 PM

Hush up about accidentally killing my kids or neighbors, Bubbaprog! That's what a scatter gun is for. You see, birdshot won't go through the thick-ass plaster and wood in my house.

/but you wouldn't know that, as you are unfamilliar with guns, aren't you?

//forgot to mention the Shotgun...

No Catchy Nickname		2004-09-04 02:06:01 PM

D_I_A
That's a lot of guns you got there. If an intruder broke into your home, wouldn't you loose valuable time trying to figure out which one to use.
"Hmm, do I go with the Colt revolver, or the 12 gauge"
"Well, honey, if you're using the 12 gauge, I'm not cleaning up afterwards..."

Sarge6		2004-09-04 02:06:47 PM

C-Nut

No apologies necessary...

But there are people out there who shouldn't even get close to a fire arm, remember there are some who have been trained by the best (U.S. Military) and who can handle a situation of a break in.

Lenny_da_Hog		2004-09-04 02:09:00 PM

C-Nut
If he gets out the front door, I can pick a flea off a camel's back 100 yds with my 1898 Mauser bolt-action rifle. Both quality weapons.

I loves my Mauser -- 1918 6.5 x 55. $100 in cosmoline around ten years ago. I cut the barrel down to 18", put it in a sport stock. It's my favoritest weapon in the whole, wide world.

Sarge6		2004-09-04 02:10:42 PM

Nodus....

I'm not looking to kill anyone. I've seen enough of that in the military. I'm just pro-gun and thinkin ahead. I hope you never have a situation where you wished you need one.....

dcho		2004-09-04 02:13:09 PM

"The homeowner then accidentally shot three neighbours. The next morning a child playing in his yard proceeded to shoot his baby brother in the head."

0lorin		2004-09-04 02:17:12 PM

well I've got a pistol a shotgun an uzi a .50 cal and an ICBM with thermonuclear weapons, under my pillow.

And one time the kgb was trying to break in and steal these top secret files i was holding for the cia, and it was a good thing i had my guns cause otherwise i wouldn't have been able to shoot them all in the head with my auto-shottie after i threw a flashbang.