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(Yahoo)   Men paying for dates is "chivalry," not "sexism"   (story.news.yahoo.com) divider line 291
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2002-02-01 08:51:23 PM  
Chivalry? Sure. Ya. Whatever. I'll pay. I'm not proud.

Unfortunately, I'm not rich either.
 
2002-02-01 08:55:31 PM  
I dont see how this is an issue anyhow since most feminists dont wear bras, dont shave their armpits, legs, etc so they probably dont go out much either. And if they do go out they need the man to pay since they blow all their money on batteries for their dildos.
 
2002-02-01 08:56:12 PM  
The person asking for the date pays. If it's a mutually agreed upon decision to see one another then they both pay their own way.
 
2002-02-01 08:59:55 PM  
Before I clicked on the link, I thought they were talking about hookers
 
2002-02-01 09:00:44 PM  
I'm with Foodbunny. While I appreciate a man paying for the date (especially if he asks), I'd have to insist that I pay if I ask. And, I think most modern women agree on that point.
 
2002-02-01 09:00:52 PM  
Its nice to think of myself as a knight instead of a sexist pig, sure ill agree with it
 
2002-02-01 09:01:04 PM  
The person who invites pays for, or cooks, dinner.
It works-out pretty evenly that way.
That is, as long as you're not playing head games with each other.
 
2002-02-01 09:01:18 PM  
Heh, there's no free lunch.
 
2002-02-01 09:02:38 PM  
I pay everytime, no biggie, I'd just waste the money anyway, may as well make the lady friend happy.
 
2002-02-01 09:02:40 PM  
Yeah, Fred Flinstone. TANSTAAFL. Hopefully more people will realize the expanse of that truism.
 
2002-02-01 09:04:16 PM  
...well, I always offer. I have dated a couple of girls that would offer occassionally, like special occassions. Then I've dated some that didn't want me to pay all the time...we would split, take turns.

Either way, I offer, if she ever offers I am totally flattered...
 
2002-02-01 09:06:10 PM  
It's already been said, but I'll help reinforce it. Whoever asks, pays. If I ask, I expect to pay. If these so-called researchers went on a few dates instead of doing their little "studies," they'd already know this stuff.
 
2002-02-01 09:07:06 PM  
boy there is no way in hell there will be a second date unless you pay for everything first time around
 
2002-02-01 09:07:15 PM  
ever see that movie where randy quaid and janeane garafalo go out on a blind date, and he tries to make every concievable effort to be nice and she has a conniption fit over everything that diminishes her as a woman?

that type of woman makes me want to punch her in the face.
you're eaqual to a man in every way? then take a punch like a man when you act like a belligerant dick.
 
2002-02-01 09:07:43 PM  
My objective? Well I object to taking a girl out, you know, and buying her dinner and then she won't put out for you.
 
2002-02-01 09:09:41 PM  
let me just say i love women, you're all beautiful. i consider you to generally be the better of the sexes.
but hard core feminists who can find an example of the conspiratorial phallicarchy in ANYTHING are just the most horrible people.

like that one lesbian in "legally blonde" who wanted to call the next semster an "ovester"
eat a dick!
 
2002-02-01 09:09:45 PM  
Men should always pay, and women should always swallow.

In a perfect world.
 
Mac
2002-02-01 09:14:38 PM  
When I was dating...it was always a matter of whoever had money at the time.
 
2002-02-01 09:15:33 PM  
Scarneck: Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2002-02-01 09:15:46 PM  
What's beyond me is why the study didn't include women paying for the date. I'm willing to bet cash money that the men would have a bad feeling about THAT, too. Also, in showing the two dates I wonder what the variables were. I mean, were the people on the dates having fun? In paying the bill what were the reactions of the two people on the date? All that kind of stuff effects the viewer's reactions It's not just the doing... it's HOW it's done.
 
2002-02-01 09:19:21 PM  
I think it's cool if a guy pays on a first date...but it shouldn't be expected though. On our first date my hubby and I went 50%. Then the next he had a weird ass guilt trip and paid for out tickets and dinner.


Yeah, I thought it was about hookers too....
 
2002-02-01 09:21:10 PM  
I thought men paying for dates is called 'hiring prostitutes'.

It's so much more fun to respond without reading the article.
 
2002-02-01 09:21:26 PM  
I just find it a bit offensive when some guy holds the door open for me. To me that says I can't do it 'cause I'm a woman. I also feel I'm being pitied somehow like "Oh, women have been treated like 2nd class citizens for so long, here, I feel sorry for you so I'll do this for you." Don't ask me why, that's just how I feel.

I'm also rather independent. It's like, if I want help, then I'll ask for it, thanks. :)
 
y2a
2002-02-01 09:22:22 PM  
Screw That! We're Going Dutch Baby! Woooooo!

...y2a
 
2002-02-01 09:22:47 PM  
Wait, when I pay the hooker, it's chivalry? I just didn't to get cut up by her pimp.
 
y2a
2002-02-01 09:25:40 PM  
BTW.... Scarneck send me a copy of that Newsletter too.
...y2a
 
SGF
2002-02-01 09:27:17 PM  
Is that a trick question?
 
2002-02-01 09:27:17 PM  
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Nope, not dead, if you were raised right.
 
2002-02-01 09:30:31 PM  
...and I open doors too...and prefer her to walk in front of me or beside me...never behind, that is just rude...besides, she might club me over the head w/ something... :)
 
2002-02-01 09:30:39 PM  
Your Farked if you do, Your Farked if you don't. On one hand you've got the 'Well, i've been raised to be a gentleman and open a door now and then' on the other hand you've got Alexandra- I just find it a bit offensive when some guy holds the door open for me.

I don't know about you sweetheart, but i always like it when someone (any gender) shows a little respect for someone other than their lame ass self and actually does an act of kindness.
 
2002-02-01 09:31:52 PM  
I always pay for the first date unless the woman specifically asks to pay. It's just something I do. Of course, I'm not going to pay for EVERY time we go out. There will be no freeloading on me. Unless of course, you are really, really hot, and I win the lottery.
 
2002-02-01 09:32:12 PM  
...exactly, it's about respect...has nothing to do w/ what she can and can't do...respect...
 
2002-02-01 09:32:28 PM  
When two gay guys go out on a date, who pays?
 
2002-02-01 09:33:41 PM  
I just find it a bit offensive when some guy holds the door open for me. To me that says I can't do it 'cause I'm a woman. I also feel I'm being pitied somehow like "Oh, women have been treated like 2nd class citizens for so long, here, I feel sorry for you so I'll do this for you." Don't ask me why, that's just how I feel.

I'm also rather independent. It's like, if I want help, then I'll ask for it, thanks. :)


This is the whole problem. Guys aren't sure when they are supposed to hold the door open or not. Same for everything else. So I'll just do it the gentleman's way until some woman clubs me over the head because I did something wrong.
 
2002-02-01 09:33:59 PM  
Freak: sounds like you should just go ahead and kill yourself if things are that bad...
 
2002-02-01 09:35:37 PM  
Once while at Wal-Mart to buy some ductape I saw a pregnant woman with a baby carriage come up to the front entrance and I took the time to hold it open for her. The smile she gave me is something I still remember clearly to this day. Something that small can make a persons day.
 
2002-02-01 09:35:44 PM  
If I get to the door first, I hold it for him. If he gets there first he holds it for me. I'll hold it for strangers too, there's no reason for them to have to open the door if I'm right there and it's already open. It's just good manners.
 
2002-02-01 09:36:34 PM  
With a name like LORD argent, chivalry is high in my book.
 
2002-02-01 09:37:42 PM  
And before anyone even starts in on me Im gonna cut you off. No that was not a sexually related smile, no I am not into preggos, not even mothers. Anything that has had kids is a turnoff. I was just glad to help since I have seen women with baby carriages struggle to get those things through the damn door. I dont know why that wal-mart didnt have automatic doors.
 
2002-02-01 09:39:35 PM  
DrBenway: Yeah, militant feminists annoy the hell out of me. I still hold the occasional door for a woman though, given that I am in a good mood and she has a nice pair of legs.
 
2002-02-01 09:41:15 PM  
i just follow the rule most guys i know do
pay, hold the doors, be respectful

if she has an issue with that, find another girl because she'll be nothing but issues eventually
 
2002-02-01 09:42:32 PM  
Well, I let them do it anyway and remember to thank them, since I don't know their motives. Did I mention that I'm socially inept? I mean, it's so bad, I go to a family get-together and I get nervous!
 
2002-02-01 09:44:16 PM  
Well rest assured Alexandra that if I ever held the door open for you I would take a nice long stare at your butt as you walked away.
 
2002-02-01 09:44:41 PM  
Well, I let them do it anyway and remember to thank them, since I don't know their motives.

Ok, here's a little clue behind most guys motives. It's "being nice". Of course, since that impresses most women, we do it a lot. :)
 
2002-02-01 09:45:20 PM  
Unless you are fat/ugly then I would hold the door open and then trip you as you walked through.
 
2002-02-01 09:45:36 PM  
Appetizers: $25
Dinner: $50
Dessert: $15
Wine: $30
Telling your gold digging date you forgot your wallet: Priceless.
 
2002-02-01 09:45:45 PM  
Oh yeah, and what Freak said. :)
 
2002-02-01 09:47:04 PM  
I hold the door for women. then again I hold it for men too ;) I basically hold it to anyone that happens to be behind me(and no I'm not a doorman ;). I can kinda see the both sides, but personally it's not really such a big deal.

everyone I know knows that I'm poor - so they just never let me pay. I need to be really aggressive to get my turn, I'm like "SHUT THE HELL UP LADY i'M PICKING UP THE CHECK LAH LAH LAH LAH LAH" and then finally I get to pay, and keep my pitiful amount of pride. I mean I don't really have pride, but I just feel bad always making others pay, you know ;)
 
2002-02-01 09:48:58 PM  
Really Quick1? I was taught that when you hold the door for a woman you should expect to recieve head in return.
 
2002-02-01 09:49:42 PM  
Yiggs When two gay guys go out on a date, who pays?

probably you!

just kiddin.
 
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