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(Boston Globe)   Salt Lake City jury awards $290,000 to two women who were deceived by a fundamentalist church that promised to produce Jesus Christ in the flesh.   (boston.com) divider line 162
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2002-01-30 10:19:39 AM
Gettin' paid for being gullible. God bless America.
 
2002-01-30 10:23:19 AM
No way is this true - someone using a church to bilk gullible boobs out of their money.... no wait....uhhhh...
 
2002-01-30 10:25:05 AM
When will you Christians learn?

The Scientologists are way worse, though.
 
2002-01-30 10:27:13 AM
I'm so torn on this one...

on one hand, the women are getting money in direct proportion to how stupid they are.

on the other hand, this could set a wonderful precident for suing religiouse organizations....
 
2002-01-30 10:28:18 AM
''God's people have always been persecuted and right now is no different.''

*coughing up morning coffee* Gee, I wonder why? Asswipes.
 
2002-01-30 10:28:28 AM
What I find funny is the story right after that. Someone brought Ex-Lax brownies to work after people were stealing from his lunch. He SHOULD have just popped a couple in his lunch, and then laughed when someone stole and ate 'em.
 
2002-01-30 10:29:46 AM
Stevearooni: YES!!!!!
 
2002-01-30 10:30:55 AM
It's hard to decide what the stupidest thing about this story is. Theres just... so much stupidity! I hope the women win the lawsuit, then get mauled and eaten by Mike Tyson.
 
2002-01-30 10:33:52 AM
I'm told that I've shown people God with my flesh before.
 
2002-01-30 10:34:28 AM
I'm here for you.
 
2002-01-30 10:38:38 AM
Finding a spnish dude named Jesus and paying him to change his last name to Christ and then sending him to the peoples house would have been way way cheaper for the church.
 
2002-01-30 10:48:31 AM
this article should have a "hero" tag :)
 
2002-01-30 10:49:29 AM
Caveat emptor. P.T. Barnum laughs at you from the grave.
 
2002-01-30 10:50:14 AM
scroll down farther on the page there.... friggin guy gets a $20,000 grant to spend a week in a human-size fishtank. Where do I sign up? *laf*
 
2002-01-30 10:58:06 AM
They were stupid for even believing that crap in the first place. I hope they lose it all to another religious, nut-job church. They will buy their box-of-shiat, and give them all their money in the name of Gawd. CAN I GET AN AMEN!!!!
 
2002-01-30 11:03:22 AM
"Forgive them, Father, for they know not their heads from their asses."
 
2002-01-30 11:11:25 AM
The brownie story was awesome. Very Milton-from-Office-Space. :)
 
2002-01-30 11:21:48 AM
Is there a statute of limitations on this? If so, anybody who was ever brought up in a church (I count 4 flavors of Christianity from my childhood) should get some cash. I'm calling my lawyer NOW!
 
2002-01-30 11:24:37 AM
$290,000? So that's what a Messiah is worth these days.
 
2002-01-30 11:25:19 AM
As if Utah needed more of this...
I'm going to strart telling people I'm from Franch. The French are retarded - but at least they are not British.
 
2002-01-30 11:27:14 AM
Anyone who bought the bilge that preacher was spewing deserved to get ripped off.

I agree with CandyPink; the brownie story was a good one. The man-in-the-zoo story was bizarre. I hope that the $20 grand wasted on that "exhibit" was not public money.
 
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2002-01-30 11:37:53 AM
Jesus isn't real. All this Christianity shiat is lies. The sooner you dullards suck it up and come to grips with it, the sooner your lives will improve.
 
2002-01-30 11:48:56 AM
What year is it? 2002? 2002 years after what? Does AD mean anything to you? Interesting that the entire fuqqing world counts time based on the year Christ died. Dates are counted in years BEFORE he died and years AFTER he died...

But he wasn't real.

Whatever.
 
2002-01-30 12:06:48 PM
Jesus did exist...although I have serious doubts about his status as the deliverer of evil and saviour of my soul, I do belive that there was a carpenters son named Jesus...
 
2002-01-30 12:15:51 PM
A calendar created by a Pope dates things according to when he thought some guy died.

[equation missing]

Obviously that guy was the messiah.

"Whatever"
 
2002-01-30 12:16:07 PM
Mad Ogre: Yeah, that's why other cultures (see Chinese, Jews, others) use their own year designations. Because it's proof that Jesus existed.
 
2002-01-30 12:17:03 PM
</sarcasm>

Woops, sorry! Didn't mean to leave that open!
 
2002-01-30 12:17:14 PM
I would have made an appearance, but the church never notified me. Being Omnipotent and all, I would have naturally KNOWN to make an appearance, but I suspect this to be the work of the Devil Himself (or Herself, depending on your preferrence), and thus, the actions were unknown to me. I'll be glad to share in any monetary reward, though.

J.C.
 
2002-01-30 12:17:17 PM
True justice would be if the women win the suit, but are required to spend all of the money on classes that teach them how to not be so darn gullible and stupid! Or are required to donate it to the Secular Humanist Society or something like that.
 
2002-01-30 12:17:53 PM
1) Christ was born in around 4 BC
2) If using AD offends you... then use CE... sheesh... and dates are supposed to be counted in years before and after he was born... you're not very good at this educated atheist thing, are you?
 
2002-01-30 12:17:57 PM
Mad Ogre
Yup, and some of our months are named after Roman Emperors, but they are dead, and we have Thursday named after a Norse god, is he real too?
Don't tell me you are patheticly stupid enough to actually believe that god exists. If you are smart enough to type you should at least be smart enough to realize that this religion crap is just that, a big, steaming, nutty pile of lies and shiat.
 
2002-01-30 12:20:43 PM
I like the name of the company in the second story:

OMG Americas.

That's what Christopher Columbus' teenage daughters said when he finally brought them to the new world on later trips.

Oh I'm stretching.
 
2002-01-30 12:20:47 PM
Fb
On what basis have you decided that Jesus isnt real? Is it possible that there is a christian somewhere on the planet that is smarter than you? If the worlds 2 smartest people disagree which one is right? and how do you know?

AVisgoth
The carpenters son named Jesus claimed to be 'the way the truth and the life' (John 14:6) Have you found otherwise?
 
2002-01-30 12:21:55 PM
NaTax: Regardless of whether you believe or not... to claim that there is absolutely zero evidence for (at least the christian) God is just foolish... go do some research and you'll find that there are actually reasonable reasons for an intelligent person to believe...
 
2002-01-30 12:22:05 PM
Wow, that's why I'm Jewish
This sounds like a tax on stupid people
 
2002-01-30 12:24:30 PM
Mad Ogre: Ask someone who lives in China what year it is. We don't all live by the same callendar. And i'm *pretty* sure there are more Chinese in the world than dumb ass Christians. (yah yah yah i know some chinese are christian and lots of other idiots too..blah blah blah)
 
2002-01-30 12:27:49 PM
go do some research and you'll find that there are actually reasonable reasons for an intelligent person to believe

There is nothing that a scientifically minded person would call evidence. It's all hearsay and magic, and when you get down to the root of belief, there's nothing left but the *desire* to believe because it makes you feel good. There is no more evidence for a god than for unicorns, yet you don't hear people saying that they are agnostic to the existance of unicorns.

That's why they call it faith - faith is "knowing" something inspite of the lack of evidence. Personally, I would rather believe in an uncomfortable truth than a comforting myth.
 
2002-01-30 12:29:59 PM
DivineOb: Who are you talking to?
 
2002-01-30 12:30:09 PM
Or you can think of this as proof of a higher power. Only through Divine intervention could the genes of people this stupid have survived this long.
 
2002-01-30 12:30:52 PM
Sorry, I should clarify. I meant who was this

1) Christ was born in around 4 BC
2) If using AD offends you... then use CE... sheesh... and dates are supposed to be counted in years before and after he was born... you're not very good at this educated atheist thing, are you?


directed at?
 
2002-01-30 12:34:34 PM
DivineOb,
Um. Evidence that your christian god exists? Oh lordy I'll be eagerly awaiting this evidence you report to have. At the same time I'll be waiting for a call from the local trailerpark with proof that aliens visited them.

Come on, cough it up, evidence that laws of physics are not real and that a bunch of primitives in the dessert just happened to stumble upon the truth... lets go...

If you are referring to things like archaeological evidence of events that resemble bible stories, well, then I'd have to say.... what would stop the bible writers from adding in information about that great big flood that happened or whatever, and attributing it to their fictitious omnipotent being?

Horsefeathers.
 
2002-01-30 12:35:50 PM
Bevets: It has nothing to do with being smart. It has everything to do with proof. For some, what it says in the Bible is proof enough, for others this is not the case. Someone's degree of intellect has no bearing on whether he/she is right or wrong.
 
2002-01-30 12:38:26 PM
Exick: I was supposed to be talking to NaTaX...

Kryoster: But you are wrong... faith is not believing something without evidence, but believing something without proof. One is a fool if one believes in a particular religion on *blind* (Because this guy told me too) faith. BTW, I do consider myself a scientifically minded person (almost done with my PhD in computer science, and I wasn't raised christian) and I find the evidence (people willingly being martyred for a lie?) compelling... I'm not going to claim that there is enough evidence to make anyone a believer (most people do have to want to believe (I guess CS Lewis would be the exception...)), but the characterization of christians as believers only because they are incapable of rational thought is an ignorant opinion...

It is a belief based on less "evidence" (or lets say faulty reasoning) to believe that Jesus never existed at all, but I don't see atheists getting on those people's case...
 
2002-01-30 12:42:24 PM
NaTaX: The martyrdom of the original apostles, Paul's miraculous conversion, the gospels being written a short time after the events they describe, yet not being challenged by the still surviving eyewitnesses, the incredibly widespread agreement of all copies of NT texts we've recovered (attacking the possibility of outright fabrication) etc etc... events not challenged as having happened (well, there is, of course, some controversy over when the gospels were written) which you have to really strain to expain in any way *other* than the events described in the NT are true...
 
2002-01-30 12:42:45 PM
Nice going Fb-

Like drops of blood in a shack tank.
 
2002-01-30 12:43:18 PM
err shark.
 
2002-01-30 12:44:25 PM
I'm not here to take sides. I'm merely going to make some corrections and pose a suggestion.

"And i'm *pretty* sure there are more Chinese in the world than dumb ass Christians."

Actually, Christianity is the world's largest religion. There were slightly over 2 billion Christians in 2000, globally. It has also been estimated that there are nearly 4 billion people who own a Bible.

It is imprudent to vehemently assail one's system of beliefs or faith, as those who believe are clearly in the majority and do not put as much weight in scientific evidence. This is not necessarily wrong, however. Professing someone's stupidity because they believe in something you do not is wholly ignorant, as no one knows the Truth. This is neither a defense of religion nor an attack on atheism/agnosticism. It's simply how you appear to those you are debating with.
 
2002-01-30 12:47:53 PM
Kroyster
Uncomfortable Truth #1
Jeremiah 17.9 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
Uncomfortable Truth #2
Proverbs 14.12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.
Uncomfortable Truth #3
Mark 9.43-48 43
If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell,where "`their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.'
 
2002-01-30 12:57:08 PM
NaTaX
Is there a law of physics that has proven God does not exist?

It is interesting that every culture has a flood myth.
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/titania.htm
 
2002-01-30 01:00:19 PM
Divine Ob: "people willingly being martyred for a lie?"

Does that mean Allah exists? Because we gots plenty of Islamic lunatics who have no compunction against offing themselves and others as a quick means to glorify their gods.
 
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