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(ZDNet)   Sun working to make motherboards obsolete. Tron looking for a new place to live   ( ) divider line
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16925 clicks; posted to Main » on 06 Aug 2004 at 2:06 PM (12 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2004-08-06 02:09:35 PM  
What are all the baby boards going to do?
2004-08-06 02:09:35 PM  
Now why can't they find a way to make Bill Gates obsolete?
2004-08-06 02:11:05 PM  
Anyone else find it weird to have a reference to scrabble tiles so recently after the scrabble thread?

/just came from there
2004-08-06 02:11:22 PM  
Waiting ever so patiently for someone to post the pic of the guy who made his own Tron costume. With or without the butt cameltoe.
2004-08-06 02:11:28 PM  
/waiting for comment from skynet
2004-08-06 02:11:34 PM  
in our hearts?
2004-08-06 02:13:17 PM  
I would think leakage and interference issues would be just as troublesome as maintaining alignment. Regardless, I think this change is inevitable, though it might be quite a while before we see it.
2004-08-06 02:13:26 PM  
But he can always move into the hard disk firmware, right? Right?
2004-08-06 02:13:42 PM  
holy shiat. Think of what handhelds would be capable of with that technology. No I don't mean pda's, I mean the farking psp/ gba's of the world.

/doom3, coming soon(ish) to a cellphone near you
2004-08-06 02:14:19 PM  
And, ye, all of the chips will transmit the wireless code six-six-six. And Sun went dark and the harddrives ran with oil.
2004-08-06 02:15:16 PM  
Wha? No Jay Maynard picture yet?
2004-08-06 02:17:19 PM  
After reading the article, it seems like there's still going to need to be pins. I mean, capacitive coupling is great and all, but these things still need power. So perhaps a package where there are pins that anchor the devices on surface mount pads and then the capacitive links between devices afterwards.
Of course, if this technology takes off, it will make chip design turn into even *more* of a gigantic jigsaw puzzle.
2004-08-06 02:17:30 PM  
Thought they meant:

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2004-08-06 02:17:34 PM  
The Sun is there?
2004-08-06 02:17:41 PM  
Ummm, shouldn't we get this whole WEP security thing figured out first?

/did not RTFA
2004-08-06 02:20:38 PM  
The question I have is:

How is this going to make my porn viewing BETTER?
2004-08-06 02:22:30 PM  
Someone post that picture of Tron guy to make my Friday complete.
2004-08-06 02:22:31 PM  
Darn, and i just HAD to upgrade my motherboard/CPU!
Why didn't i just wait.................

/too much time on my hands
2004-08-06 02:23:14 PM  
This technology could certainly make motherboards smaller, but as r4v5 said, there will still need to be power connections, as well as I/O connections. The chips also need to be VERY close together, practically silicon to silicon. So, really, what we'll see will probably be something like a multichip module mounted on a regular circuit board.
2004-08-06 02:23:46 PM  
This should make Hiro Protagonist very happy. Will tell him as soon as his shift at Uncle Enzo's is done.
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2004-08-06 02:24:10 PM  
What will this guy do then?

[image from too old to be available]
2004-08-06 02:24:20 PM  
2004-08-06 02:24:59 PM  
"Heat and vibration in this environment can cause chips to get out of the precise alignment needed for proximity communication. Sun is currently tinkering with different techniques and different packages to prevent, or correct, these effects."

Hmmm, perhaps they should put them on some sort of board.
2004-08-06 02:25:54 PM  
No need to wire these chips for power, they can simply draw their power from a potato.

/hmmmm potato chips?
2004-08-06 02:25:56 PM  

This technology could certainly make motherboards smaller, but as r4v5 said, there will still need to be power connections, as well as I/O connections. The chips also need to be VERY close together, practically silicon to silicon. So, really, what we'll see will probably be something like a multichip module mounted on a regular circuit board.

I read the article and I appreciate h2ogate's comment. However, I pose the question:

Will Boobies be better?

/just punchy because it's Friday and I want to go home!
2004-08-06 02:27:09 PM  
This smells of terrorism. I must consult my personally signed copy of the Patriot Act...
2004-08-06 02:30:15 PM  
2004-08-06 02:30:29 PM  
This is awesome! Now my PC can be just a big pile of components to match the rest of my office!
2004-08-06 02:32:18 PM  
Now I can make that computer suit I've always wanted.
2004-08-06 02:32:53 PM  
Users, users, users...
2004-08-06 02:32:54 PM  
"Look how Tron is livin'...for the city..."

2004-08-06 02:34:09 PM  
PCs had better get quicker at handling the massive hard drives routinely available now, they sure as hell AIN'T there today. Done a disk check on a 250 GB drive with 1 million files lately?
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2004-08-06 02:36:08 PM  
Sounded good until I read it was just capacitative coupling. I was imagining some sort of optical link.
2004-08-06 02:36:31 PM  
As a PCB designer by trade, SCREW YOU SUN! It'll never work!
2004-08-06 02:37:25 PM  
1) Why can't power be provided by induction?

2) Hopefully their thinking vertically and horizontally. creating devices like staking Legos is this EE's dream
2004-08-06 02:38:13 PM  

End of line.
2004-08-06 02:39:13 PM  
What is it /. today on fark?

I thought Fridays were Pirate Day. . .

2004-08-06 02:39:23 PM  
The more passives the better.
2004-08-06 02:40:39 PM  
they've been doing a fine job so far.
2004-08-06 02:41:39 PM  

/really got nothin...............between my ears
2004-08-06 02:43:05 PM  
Just as important, overall costs could fall, because defective chips could be removed like Scrabble tiles.

Woohoo! I wanna be the first one on my street to get the new LEZ chip.
2004-08-06 02:44:04 PM  
Just use laser diodes, as long as you have line of sight between chips. It'll also give the modders a reason to add a smoke machine to their PCs.
2004-08-06 02:44:30 PM  
Will this make your life better ? not really. Packaging o the processor is not a major factor in computer costs, and CPU performance is not the bottleneck in your websurfing experience, and the CPU bandwidth is not the limiting factor in watching movies on your computer.

will it make my life better ? quite probably.

I was at a briefing for this technology during the DARPA compete phase.
2004-08-06 02:45:36 PM  
When I was 10, I thought TRON was as cool as hell. We used to wait until dark, put in our VHS copy (from HBO, complete with bad quality EP streakiness), and let it illuminate the livingroom.

The DVD copy came out recently. I got it for xmas. I sat through 15 minutes and said, "Oh." And that was it.

/I hate being grown up!
/TRacer ON, TRacer OFF
2004-08-06 02:45:50 PM  
Not gonna be impressed until we can seamlessly panel a room with interactive full motion images.
2004-08-06 02:45:58 PM  
why nomomobo?

/why no T-Bone?
2004-08-06 02:46:05 PM  
Sun working to make motherboards obsolete.

One of the most effective ways to make motherboards obsolete is to install "Windows" as the OS.

2004-08-06 02:46:14 PM  
So this means now my new computer will be a ziploc bag full of chips?
2004-08-06 02:50:21 PM  
Now they just need to make the chips layered so they can make the shell more cubical, placing the pins benieth it. Then use small metal tubes hold the wiring for the chips to communicate between each other. Place an array of these on a small, removable board, and place that in the head of a cyborg.

Skynet smiles at our folly.
2004-08-06 02:52:15 PM  
It seems to me if the people at fark have thought of it then some of the formost engineers in this field (ie. the designers at Sun)probably just goofed and forgot. I better email them so they don't miss a gem.
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