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2004-08-06 05:37:36 AM  
praise god?
 
2004-08-06 05:39:48 AM  
Just make sure you do it quietly
 
2004-08-06 05:45:54 AM  
Because as we all know, if I play my music too loud any morning I will be ticketed for it but if the church does it on Sunday morning (when many Americans like to sleep in) it's okay.

Right, America where I have a freedom to not have to join a religion as long as I don't mind listening to their music and preaching.

/Damn heathens.
 
2004-08-06 05:46:54 AM  
We had a church next to us that was really loud early in the morning. We talked to them, and they agreed to move their service from 7:30 in the morning to 8:30. 7:30 is to early to wake up to trumpets outside your window.
 
2004-08-06 05:51:28 AM  
Bell ringing. Gets on my tits.

/got nuthin'
 
2004-08-06 05:57:56 AM  
In other news:

Golgotha police ticket Jesus for loitering. Told not to hang around.
 
2004-08-06 05:58:33 AM  
I live in a town in the South where there's almost a church for every person. It's sort of sweet, but it can get a little obnoxious, what with the trains as well.

Actually the trains are worse.

The ambulances and fire trucks make an awful lot of ruckus too.

Aside--I am never going to Fark chat again. They are assholes. Three times in a row.
 
2004-08-06 06:01:57 AM  
...church leaders, who insisted they weren't trying to disturb neighbors.

Intent doesn't matter, preach. You can praise your gawd however you like, just keep it down a notch.
 
2004-08-06 06:04:42 AM  
...perhaps they played 'In the Garden of Eden' by I. Ron Butterfly.
 
2004-08-06 06:14:45 AM  
But the article doesn't say whether the people knew the church was there when they bought their homes! If the church was there first, people should have known how noisy it would be.

Hmm, live next door to a church or an race track? Well, at least the church goers probably don't throw their empty beer cans in your yard when they leave.
 
2004-08-06 06:26:10 AM  
1) It was an unusual occurance due to the A/C out and windows open - a warning would have been better, but oh well.

2) After a warning, you SHOULD get what you deserve, as long as the original problem was actually a problem and not a bunch of whiners.
 
2004-08-06 06:29:01 AM  
But the article doesn't say whether the people knew the church was there when they bought their homes! If the church was there first, people should have known how noisy it would be.

That's nice. I guess I'll put a sign outside my house saying 'Warning: I play heavy metal at huge volumes', then I can do whatever I like.

Unacceptable behaviour is unacceptable behaviour, whether people expect it or not. You'll have plenty of time to do that sh*t in heaven, in the meantime shut the fark up.
 
2004-08-06 06:35:36 AM  
Smite them. Smite them all.

/once smitten, twice shy
 
2004-08-06 06:48:25 AM  
And a good thing as well, in my old house I could hear the damn church bells every sunday farking morning. Not good when one is trying to outsleep a hangover...Churches, should not be alloud to bell when they want...
 
2004-08-06 06:51:05 AM  
dldnh

CAUTION:

The surgeon general has determined that adding that link to the end of every one of your comments can be hazardous to your HTML privileges.
 
2004-08-06 07:35:48 AM  
Maybe that will help build the case towards prosecuting that whole "Manifest Destiny" thing.
 
2004-08-06 07:37:42 AM  

The ticket, though, isn't sitting well with church leaders, who insisted they weren't trying to disturb neighbors.

"It was church music. It was nothing crazy,'' said Arturo Recendes, the church's assistant pastor who was conducting Sunday services when police arrived. "We don't want any problems, we just want to worship the Lord,'' he said.


I was not trying to disturb anyone by smoking pot in my own house. It's just weed, nothing crazy. I dont want any trouble, I just want to have a spirtitual experience in the privacy of my own home, where I feel safest.

Oh wait, you can still no-knock raid me because you thought you might have seen what looks like a pot plant (it was actually bamboo) in my living room, and shot me in the face because I stood up too fast, and murdered me in front of my family?

I love it when the God fearing folk get the slightest taste of their own Puritanical medicine.
 
2004-08-06 07:48:35 AM  
EmilyK,

"Aside--I am never going to Fark chat again. They are assholes. Three times in a row."

You do realize that this is Fark and there are lots of assholes around, right? (Granted, I've never tried Fark Chat
 
2004-08-06 07:50:03 AM  
Church has been so nice since we started having the guys from Slayer and Morbid Angel stop by.
 
2004-08-06 07:54:26 AM  
EmilyK-I live in a town in the South where there's almost a church for every person. It's sort of sweet, but it can get a little obnoxious, what with the trains as well.

Only in the fan. It aint so bad once you get to past Lakeside Avenue or The James.
 
2004-08-06 07:55:06 AM  
A small Elgin church that uses electric guitars, drums and a piano during its Sunday services to make a joyful noise for the Lord is in legal trouble after neighbors complained the church was making too much noise.

Apparently "In the Garden of Eden" by I. Ron Butterfly didn't go over well with the neighbors.
 
2004-08-06 07:57:18 AM  
anathema

Good post.
 
2004-08-06 08:00:16 AM  
I love it when the God fearing folk get the slightest taste of their own Puritanical medicine.

You would be right if it wasn't for that darn seperation of chruch and state thing! Those Pesky Laws!
 
2004-08-06 08:02:51 AM  
that darn seperation of chruch and state thing!

Riiiiiiiiigggghhhht.
 
2004-08-06 08:03:57 AM  
"2004-08-06 08:00:16 AM Balynar


I love it when the God fearing folk get the slightest taste of their own Puritanical medicine.

You would be right if it wasn't for that darn seperation of chruch and state thing! Those Pesky Laws! "


eh? what are you trying to say?
 
2004-08-06 08:04:28 AM  
Riiiiiiiiigggghhhht.


Been sent through the inquisition lately?
 
2004-08-06 08:05:29 AM  
first of all, there is no "law" re seperation of church and state.

second of all, if i said "there should be", then i would be a dirty liberal, so im not sure what to say.
 
2004-08-06 08:06:45 AM  
This one deserves a [image from img.fark.com too old to be available]. Us heathens are trying to sleep you know.
 
2004-08-06 08:08:51 AM  
eh? what are you trying to say?

I am saying that your anger is misplaced. It is not the church's fault you can't smoke weed, it is the legal system.

Be angry at the church for buggering children or any number of real offenses..but not because you can't blow a fatty legally.
 
2004-08-06 08:09:59 AM  
I hate those "holier than thou" types....think they can get away with spreading their electric hate!
 
2004-08-06 08:10:47 AM  
first of all, there is no "law" re seperation of church and state.


The First Amendment of the Constitution.
 
2004-08-06 08:15:39 AM  
"It was church music. It was nothing crazy,'' said Arturo Recendes...

Now that is totally a matter of opinion. I find their strange worshipping rites totally insane. I would PREFER to hear techno music with booming bass any day over the electric guitar strains of "Holy, Holy, Holy", but I guess I am just crazy!

I'm glad they got fined, and as a church of the community, they should be glad to pay the $150.00 fine, cheap bastards. It makes me smile when rules are at least fairly enforced.
 
2004-08-06 08:18:56 AM  
All they have to do is plead guilty due to extenuating circumstances, explain the AC being out, present a copy of a dated repair bill, and promise not to do it again. It'll be thrown out.
It was an AFTERNOON service. Must have disturbed someone's enjoyment of televised golf.

MisterSym, electric hate would be a good name for a band.
 
2004-08-06 08:25:45 AM  
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2004-08-06 08:29:02 AM  

2004-08-06 08:08:51 AM Balynar

eh? what are you trying to say?

I am saying that your anger is misplaced. It is not the church's fault you can't smoke weed, it is the legal system.


Do you honestly think these things are not related? A belief in God has been the basis of western law since its inception. That may have been fine thousands of years ago, but I think it's time to evolve. Oh wait, can I say that word?


Be angry at the church for buggering children or any number of real offenses..but not because you can't blow a fatty legally.


I do agree here. Organized religion as a whole is responsible for countless problems... but I guess it helps some people sleep at night. It's too bad people cant have the confidence in themselves, and must believe the holy sky ghost was the reason they got that promotion, won that sporting match, or survived a disaster.

The Big Three religions pretty much decided anyone who "defiles" their bodies are "evil doers", and must either be saved or destroyed, as in your Inquistion example.

How many people are killed or have their lives ruined because they got caught with some vegetable matter that just happens to make them feel more spiritual than they do when throwing that cash in the velvet lined gold money receptical?

I agree, it is "the law" that needs a changin', but that can only start when a belief in an invisible, all knowing, immortal father figure from the sky isnt a prerequisite for deciding what is best for millions of people who dont.

Will we ever see an Atheist president? No this century.

Do you know how many Atheists there are in this counry?

About 30 million, which is about 10-14% of the population.

I would expect there to be an Atheist president at least once every 40 years then.

p.s.- I dont smoke pot because i dont believe in God. I smoke pot because I want to find "him" in me. That's what they will never understand...
 
2004-08-06 08:37:33 AM  
Monks and nuns used to deprive themselves of food and sleep in order produce mental states whcih would allow them to have mystical experiences-- many of which produced texts and testimonies which are now regarded as holy.

In the U.S. (and many other places) people take drugs in order to produce mental states which would allow them to have mystical experiences.

For some reason, the latter is now illegal. Hmmm.....
 
2004-08-06 08:41:48 AM  

2004-08-06 08:10:47 AM Balynar


first of all, there is no "law" re seperation of church and state.


The First Amendment of the Constitution.


Article [I.] (See Note 13)
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Where does it say they must be seperate?

This says "the feds cant force the citizens to be a specific religion", not "religious special interests may not have influence in the government".
 
2004-08-06 08:45:54 AM  
shiat, not another separation of church and state discussion.

Look, you can't tell jack squat about where the law really stands on the issue just by looking at the wording of the First Amendment. The best way to know is to read up on past Supreme Court cases.
 
2004-08-06 08:48:12 AM  

2004-08-06 08:37:33 AM Rillion


Monks and nuns used to deprive themselves of food and sleep in order produce mental states whcih would allow them to have mystical experiences-- many of which produced texts and testimonies which are now regarded as holy.

In the U.S. (and many other places) people take drugs in order to produce mental states which would allow them to have mystical experiences.

For some reason, the latter is now illegal. Hmmm.....


i read a story about buddhist monks who meditate in Big Sur (a favorite spot for this practice). A few of them tried meditating while on MDMA. After a few hours of total silence, when one was asked what he thought, the answer was merely a smile and the words "not bad". :)

thats a spiritual being. not someone who writes a check to a preacher they watch on the television because they know no other way to feel the sheer extacy of a genuine experience.

i weep for the sheep... :/
 
2004-08-06 08:48:27 AM  
Elgin police ticketed a pastor at the Mision Apostolica Church for violating the city's noise ordinance during Sunday afternoon services.

Random Reality Check


Because as we all know, if I play my music too loud any morning I will be ticketed for it but if the church does it on Sunday morning (when many Americans like to sleep in) it's okay.

Broadcastdave


We had a church next to us that was really loud early in the morning. We talked to them, and they agreed to move their service from 7:30 in the morning to 8:30. 7:30 is to early to wake up to trumpets outside your window.


Holy Crap... I'm going back to bed
 
2004-08-06 08:49:02 AM  
Mouser, sorry, but you were beat to the punch.
 
2004-08-06 08:49:59 AM  
Blame Harry J. Anslinger for starting the war on drugs.

Blame the politicians for allowing in to continue in the face of massive evidence against it.
 
2004-08-06 08:53:58 AM  
bludstone,

actually, blame him for carrying out the "War" on marijuana. other drugs were already deemed "Evil" by then, and when he started, he thought the whole idea was silly.

he was just a G man with a job. look higher up the food chain to find the real culprits...
 
2004-08-06 09:00:53 AM  
actually, blame him for carrying out the "War" on marijuana. other drugs were already deemed "Evil" by then

Marijuana was effectively outlawed by the stamp act of 1937. LSD wasn't outlawed until 1966. MDMA (ecstasy) in 1988. (Though mescaline was outlawed in most states by 1930 or so).

Sad, isn't it? The drugs that make people feel at one with the universe, connected with other living things... the government has to swing into action and declare them a menace to society.
 
2004-08-06 09:24:15 AM  
anathema: About 30 million, which is about 10-14% of the population.

I would expect there to be an Atheist president at least once every 40 years then.


hmmm...if every year there were 15% of the nation that agreed with me, i would expect to never get elected. Maybe if we changed the system so you could add up votes from previous elections and use them at once...

aside: christian != puritan

people should not be afriad to talk to churches in their community if they have a problem. Any group of people that are striving to serve God will be serving their community. If they are fighting the community, then something is wrong!
 
2004-08-06 09:24:37 AM  
Why is a church having loud music anyway?

IRONIC
 
2004-08-06 09:27:38 AM  
how is that ironic? Psalm 100: "shout for joy to the Lord, all the earth!"
 
2004-08-06 09:29:57 AM  

2004-08-06 09:00:53 AM Rillion

Sad, isn't it? The drugs that make people feel at one with the universe, connected with other living things... the government has to swing into action and declare them a menace to society.


This is why i'll take what Joseph Campbell and Terrence Mckenna have taught me over what growing up Episcopal ever could.

While the stained glass and candles of my church growing up were neet to look at, they taught me nothing of God.

While peering into the boundless oceans of color and energy seen while looking through an empty bottle at a candle accross the room, I fealt more connected with something universal and pure than I ever did listening to my priest.

While he prays for his spirit, I have met mine face to face. It has annilated my ego and given me hope.

"There is no God. There is a God. I am God. There is only God."

Send me to church for thirty years for me to get a slight glimpse at this train of thought, or give me 4 hours and 4 mushrooms to swallow this concept into my heart.

I'll take the four hours thank you very much.
 
2004-08-06 09:31:20 AM  
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2004-08-06 09:34:37 AM  
If a man loudly blesses his neighbor early in the morning it will be taken as a curse.

Proverbs 27:14 (NIV)
 
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