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2004-08-01 10:21:44 AM
If he's so smart, how come he's dead?
 
2004-08-01 10:28:21 AM
General "I was in favor of one horrible candidate but now I'm in favor of the other horrible candidate."

Blah blah blah. I can't wait for 2005 until all this is over one way or another. I've never seen a more devisive election (not the candiates but the electorate) and I'm farking sick of the whole thing.

Voting for Nader just because I hate the both.
 
2004-08-01 11:03:11 AM
McPeak, a former fighter pilot who campaigned for Bob Dole in 1996 as well as Bush in 2000, said Bush's inability to craft a true allied coalition was a serious deficiency.

Seeing as the French, the Russians and the Germans risked the exposure of their under the table dealings with the Hussein "government" this is not a valid point.
 
2004-08-01 11:08:52 AM
Retired General declares Bush's foreign policy a 'national disaster'.

Well, because it is.
 
2004-08-01 11:22:53 AM
So let's hear your solution...

What we have is a number of "allied nations" and an international body who has spent the last decade demanding that something be done about islamic terror and the threat that was Hussein. But when push came to shove they ran like roaches in the light and clammed up when their "oil for gobs of cash" program came to light...

And we're the ones farking up?

Nope...don't think so...
 
2004-08-01 11:26:57 AM
Seeing as the French, the Russians and the Germans risked the exposure of their under the table dealings with the Hussein "government" this is not a valid point.

Yeah, because that a four-year old could see from 100 miles away that Bush was feeding the American public and its allies a line of bull shiat had nothing to do with it. That whole "restraint" thing is so over rated.

The Europeans were right, this war was almost completely unjustified and is a foreign policy disaster. Get over it.

On a related note, here's a joke to lighten the mood:

Three recently deceased persons, a Brit, a Russian, and an American, are making their way down to Hell. Each is carrying something with him: The Brit is carrying a shovel, the Russian is carrying an extra pair of shoes, and the American is carrying some cans of liquid. As they trudge along, the American asks his comrades why they're carrying the things they are.

The Brit responds, "Well, sir, I know the Devil keeps it awfully hot in Hell, and he makes blokes like us shovel coal to keep it that way. I was always fond of this particular shovel when I worked in the mines back home, so I brought it along for the job."

The Russian responds, "Like our comrade says, it's awfully hot in Hell. These shoes have thick soles that protected me from the ice and snow of Siberia, and I'm hoping that they can save my feet from the hot ground on which we'll be toiling for eternity."

The American puts down his cans and says in disbelief, "If it's as hot in Hell as you fellows say, then do you mean I'm not going to be able to get ice for my Coca-Cola?"
 
2004-08-01 11:34:29 AM
I don't get it...
 
2004-08-01 12:03:02 PM
The sport is war, total war...
 
2004-08-01 12:21:09 PM
Dear Sane People,

Do not try to speak logically to Dancin_in_Anson. He doesn't understand truth and logic. He only knows blind hate and ridiculously easy answers fed to him by Rush, Bill, and Sean.

Its easier to get a chimp to play checkers.
 
2004-08-01 12:22:02 PM
What we have is a number of "allied nations" and an international body who has spent the last decade demanding that something be done about islamic terror and the threat that was Hussein. But when push came to shove they ran like roaches in the light and clammed up when their "oil for gobs of cash" program came to light...

you keep using those words, "saddam hussein" and "islamic terrorism" in the same sentence. saddam had nothing to do with al-qaeda or 9/11. both sides tried to make a connection at one point or another, but nothing ever came of it. using them together just proves that you swallowed bush's bullshiat hook, line, and sinker.
 
2004-08-01 12:49:17 PM
Future Fark headline:

God tells Americans "Look, George Bush is farking up your nation, do something about it." Dancin_in_Anson comments, "Now see here..."

;) Just teasing, buddy.
 
2004-08-01 12:58:28 PM
Err.. another thing...

I thought we were safer? Why is Al Qaeda trying to attack New York and Washington again?

Face it, we're not. But since you guys are protected in areas where they don't care to attack, I guess it doesn't really matter unless you want to use it in an example to support your point for the war in Iraq.
 
2004-08-01 01:50:35 PM
Ahhhhh a flaming Sunday.
 
2004-08-01 01:51:11 PM
But...But...But, all these Republican farkers have been saying that everyone who was ever in the military is solidly behind Bush.
 
2004-08-01 01:51:51 PM
"Air Force".. pfft
 
2004-08-01 01:52:11 PM
Gen McPeak is an idiot!!! He was the worst Chief of Staff the Air Force ever had, the Air Force is still trying to unFARK the mess he created in the Mid-90's!
 
2004-08-01 01:52:38 PM
Gee, some asshat comes out of the woodwork and criticizes Kerry, he's a nutjob. Some asshat criticizes Bush, Fark rejoices. Makes Fox News look fair-and-balanced, guys...
 
2004-08-01 01:53:26 PM
Can you really take the word of a man who's name anagrams into CAPT MONKEY?
 
2004-08-01 01:53:58 PM
Interesting perspective from a guy who campaigned for Republicans in the past.

Be interesting to see all the right-wing Farker's explain how he became evil all of a sudden.

-Spielman
 
2004-08-01 01:54:39 PM
It's more of an "oops, my bad" than a national disaster...
 
2004-08-01 01:54:41 PM
Where would the world be without cynicism? Maybe in a better mood. So many haters, so little time...

Doesn't anyone get that terrorism is a complicated situation, and very hard to defend against because we're a free country? Every time the security apparatus wants a few minutes more of our time to make us a little safer, we're screaming loss of rights and damning Ashcroft.

I don't care if someone's perspective differs from mine. But do you hate just because it's sporting to do so...or are you really that dense?
 
2004-08-01 01:54:46 PM
Seeing as the French, the Russians and the Germans risked the exposure of their under the table dealings with the Hussein "government" this is not a valid point.

Jebus farking christ! Stop confusing Iraq with the war on terrorism already. Bush already harped on that and got his ass handed to him. The General is referring to getting allied assistance on Al Qaeda (remember them?)
 
2004-08-01 01:55:00 PM
there was a piece in a right leaning uk paper on f911. it was quite interesting; it had four reviews, 3 journos, 1 from a guy called sir michael rose, who was the un commander in bosnia. if you get past the un bit, which many of you won't, it meant he was one of the top uk commanders. now as i understand it, the guy demands respect, that's alwasys the impression i've got. his take on the film was that it was slanted. but one thing stood out for him, bush sitting there for 7 minutes, doing nothing. his take was that had he been one of rose's commanders, he would have been relieved of his duty on the spot. end of story.
 
2004-08-01 01:55:31 PM
2004-08-01 11:22:53 AM Dancin_In_Anson
"So let's hear your solution..."

John Kerry talks quite a bit about it here:
http://mfile.akamai.com/12294/mov/dncc.download.akamai.com/12294/07292004/john _kerry-100.mov

/no html skills
 
2004-08-01 01:55:34 PM
Hey, eodtech2000 got it started. Woo.

-Spielman
 
2004-08-01 01:55:49 PM
Voting for Nader just because I hate the both.

Duverger's Law

You may hate both, but unless you change the system, absolutely nothing will change. Oh, except we might have another 4 years of Dubya.
 
2004-08-01 01:56:06 PM

Gee, some asshat comes out of the woodwork and criticizes Kerry, he's a nutjob. Some asshat criticizes Bush, Fark rejoices. Makes Fox News look fair-and-balanced, guys...


Yes, because as a random website in the internet Fark has an obligation to only report facts from primary sources...

There is a slight difference between a comedy website and a major international news organization. I would hope that Fox would be held to a higher standard. It's kinda the same as people screaming over Michael Moore. I mean, do they seriously suggest we should hold some asshat to a higher standard than our own elected officials?
 
2004-08-01 01:56:14 PM
George_W_Hussein
Thank you for the warning. I was already scrolling to the bottom to write my response...
 
2004-08-01 01:56:15 PM
If Kerry does nothing more than fail to mislead us, he'll have done better than Bush.

This guy's command of rhetoric is pretty good.

.
 
2004-08-01 01:56:36 PM
Looks like the american people are slowly coming to thier senses.

/knocks on wood
 
2004-08-01 01:57:27 PM
oooh sorry. i forgot, i meant to say in there somewhere that the journos all poured far more scorn on the film than the sir brass guy
 
2004-08-01 01:57:43 PM
Feh. What do career military officials know about national security?

George W. Bush used to run oil companies and the Texas Rangers - and that takes discipline and genuine leadership.

/kool aid is pretty yummy today
 
2004-08-01 01:57:48 PM
Let me guess... this farkhead has a book to sell as well, right? The invasion of Iraq was handled by a huge coalition. And yes, France, Germany, and Russia didn't want to mess up their under the table dealings with Saddam which were quite lucrative for their own pocketbooks.

Besides that, the removal of Saddam is still one of the most humanitarian ventures this country has ever taken. Perhaps if France, Germany, and Russia hadn't been so greedy, the foreign terrorists now fighting against the Iraqi government & US would have never had a chance to start.
 
2004-08-01 01:57:55 PM
Hey, Fuzzplug Jones, how many men who criticize this president after serving admirably in both Republican and Democratic administrations will it take for you to admit the truth?

Paul O'Neill
Richard Clarke
Joe Wilson
Gen McPeak

Oh, hell. I'm sick of naming them all. You know the list goes on and on. Just accept it - Bush does not desrerve reelection.
 
2004-08-01 01:58:41 PM
George_W_Hussein :


"Its easier to get a chimp to play checkers."


I doubt Bush can play checkers....
 
2004-08-01 01:59:51 PM
DIA knows far more than any inexperienced, ultra-partisan (even when he formerly endorsed the Republican party), blowhard general. George W. Bush is never wrong. Period. He did everything right in Iraq and that's why the conflict and bloodshed there have ended and Saddam's massive stockpiles of WMDs have all been recovered. Rememeber Bush's "Mission Accomplished" banner? Well that was only an embodiment the most pure and happy truth, unmarred by any sort of flawed or politically charged thinking.
 
2004-08-01 02:01:14 PM
I, for one, disagree with espviper.
 
2004-08-01 02:01:46 PM
stop making fun of Dancin. he's really not a republican shill, he's actually a libertarian... no, really....
 
2004-08-01 02:02:12 PM
Spielman

Interesting perspective from a guy who campaigned for Republicans in the past.

Be interesting to see all the right-wing Farker's explain how he became evil all of a sudden.


He was an Islamoterrorist double agent, deep under cover. He is now detained indefinitely at an undisclosed location without charges or access to a lawyer. He will not bother the freedom-loving American people again.
 
2004-08-01 02:02:13 PM
Gen. McPeak's impression of The Shrub is accurate. The General himself is about as crooked as anybody in the Bush regime. If someone in authority was willing to truly press charges he would've been imprisoned in the early 90's for fraud.
Later as Chief of Staff he was simply erratic. No real rhyme or reason for some stupid shiat.
 
2004-08-01 02:02:50 PM
Aw shucks I didn't bother to read George_W_Hussein's warning before I replied. *sigh*
 
2004-08-01 02:03:05 PM
Anybody heard the buzz that, out of 19 guys in Kerry's swift-boat crew, only 3 showed up for the Boston Harbor Reunion Ride, and the rest weren't invited or told him to fark himself ?

What's the going price for a Cabinet job ??
 
2004-08-01 02:03:10 PM
Why do retired generals hate America so much?

/sarcasm
 
2004-08-01 02:03:29 PM
Joshg

Exactly. Until we implement runoff elections, third party candidates have no chance.
 
2004-08-01 02:05:12 PM
rose:

I believe that this film will utterly destroy any residual confidence that the American people might have in the credentials of George W. Bush as a decisive war leader.

For a full five minutes, Moore cruelly dwells on Bush's vacuous, tortured face in close-up immediately after he had been told about the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon.

The message is clear. Here is no Roosevelt, Churchill or Thatcher, but a deeply inadequate man whose mind is frozen with indecision and fear. It is a look I know well - if he had been a subordinate commander in battle I would have immediately relieved him of his command.
 
2004-08-01 02:06:32 PM
I think espviper is joking...I hope he's joking...yet that's just about the neocon party line.
 
2004-08-01 02:07:24 PM
"... the French, the Russians and the Germans risked the exposure of their under the table dealings with the Hussein government..."


As opposed to Reagan's or Cheney's under the table dealings with Hussein? Or how about Cheney's/Halibuton's/Kissinger's under the table dealing's with Suharto, or the last fifty or so years of America's under-the-table dealings with just about every dictator you can name (well, YOU probably can't name them). Oh wait, that was all just to keep the world safe from communism...right?
 
2004-08-01 02:07:40 PM
mrwizarrd

As for 3rd Party Candidates: If Teddy Roosevelt couldn't get elected running as a third party candidate after a term as one of the country's most popular presidents in history and running against an extremely weak incumbent and challenger... well, there isn't much of a chance of it ever happening.
 
2004-08-01 02:08:49 PM
4 months of 'nam & 19 years of politico lackluster. I guess you vote for the important former stuff.
 
2004-08-01 02:09:06 PM
I don't see the story about Tommy Franks new book coming out and praising any of Bush's policies. Strange FARK only posts a story against bush huh?

/duh
 
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