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(Some Guy)   Hobbits originally from Kentucky. Do a ctrl + f search on the webpage for "Kentucky"   (isi.org) divider line 20
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2002-01-26 06:56:34 PM  
Word
 
2002-01-26 06:57:36 PM  
For those of you too lazy to actually find this, here's the paragraph:

Even the comparisons, though, should not lead one to conclude that Tolkien borrowed from Wagner. Rather, Tolkien and Wagner each drew from the same sources. Namely, Wagner used the basic stories from the Austrian Nibelungenlied, the Icelandic Elder Edda and Völusp, and the Norse Volsunga Saga. Tolkien, too, took from these sources. But, the Finnish Kalevala, various Anglo-Saxon poetry, George MacDonald, and G.K. Chesterton also served as influences on Tolkien, directly or indirectly. There were other important influences on him, not so immediately obvious. "Imagine that! You know, he used to have the most extraordinary interest in the people here in Kentucky," Allen Barnett, a Kentuckian and former classmate at Oxford said. "He could never get enough of my tales of Kentucky folk. He used to make me repeat family names like Barefoot and Boffin and Baggins and good country names like that."

It's good to see that "barefoot" is a good old Kentucky name. But wasn't it "Proudfoot" in the book?
 
2002-01-26 07:02:38 PM  
So? The real question is where the fark did Tom Bombadil come from?
 
2002-01-26 07:06:22 PM  
LOTR doesn't have enough hot Valkyries though.
 
2002-01-26 07:18:42 PM  
Tom Bombadil is just the fevered imaginings of too much Kentucky Whiskey.
 
2002-01-26 07:23:48 PM  
Ok, the Kentucky thing was new, but this is some facts:

The "Volsunga saga" is in fact a part of the Edda. The Edda and the Völusp is not "icelandic" but merely ancient nordic. Icelandic is only the language that is closest to the ancient nordic language. No-one really knows where the author of the Edda (Snorre Sturlasson) lived, but the closest call is Norway.
So, just to set things straight, the nordic countries have a mutual history, so there is no point in calling thing this old "icelandic", "norwegian" or "swedish".

And, just for the record: Finland has no part of this, I also wonder where the fark Mr Bombadil came from, and I haven't got a single clue on how they can make the Ents come alive on the silver screen...
 
2002-01-26 07:24:27 PM  
Eh, thanks Geddysciple but that's still too much reading.
 
2002-01-26 07:27:45 PM  
Well I'll be damned! Ctrl f brings up a word search utility, learn new things everyday. Thanks!
 
2002-01-26 07:56:56 PM  
I refuse to follow a link with instructions attached. The funny better be front and centre. Damnit.
 
2002-01-26 08:00:50 PM  
Well if it's any consequence I live in Louisville and on the outskirts toward the southeast there is a town nicknamed "Smallville". It is just a row of houses that are really peculiar looking, real small and strange entrances. They look like they were built for Hobbits. We used to pass them when going to field parties and it was always kinda spooky through there. One of my friends said it was a bunch of midgets that had built all of them, anyone else have anything like that?
 
2002-01-26 08:20:39 PM  
That's + f for those of you who like a little variety in your computing diet.
 
2002-01-26 09:15:13 PM  
OH NO! THAT'S A MACINTOSH KEY!

Heh.... you mean [ctrl].
 
2002-01-26 09:51:05 PM  
Found some more along this line in Usenet:
"On a snowy day in Shelbyville, Ky. ... we came to talk of
Tolkien, [and] I began plying questions as soon as I knew that I was talking to a man who had been at Oxford as a classmate of Ronald Tolkien's. He was a distinguished lawyer, Allen Barnett. He had never read ``The Hobbit'' or ``The Lord of the Rings.'' Indeed, he was astonished and pleased to know that his friend of so many years ago had made a name for himself as a writer.
``Imagine that! You know, he used to have the most extraordinary interest in the people here in Kentucky. He could never get enough of my tales of Kentucky folk. He used to make me repeat family names like Barefoot and Boffin and Baggins and good country names like that.''
Out the window I could see tobacco barns. The charming
anachronism of the hobbits' pipes suddenly made sense in a new way.
The Shire and its settled manners and shy hobbits have many
antecedents in folklore and in reality ... . Kentucky, it seems,contributed its share.
Practically all the names of Tolkien's hobbits are listed in my Lexington phone book, and those that aren't can be found over in Shelbyville. .. the Bagginses, Boffins, Tooks, Brandybucks, Grubbs,Burrowses, Goodbodies, and Proudfoots..."
 
2002-01-26 10:51:25 PM  
Heh heh...
 
2002-01-26 11:01:55 PM  
 
2002-01-26 11:05:58 PM  
KentuckyBob

I'm from the Louisville area myself and I went to high school with several Grubbs. Smallville does indeed exist (I wish I remember exactly where it is) and the similarities are creepy.
 
2002-01-26 11:26:34 PM  
I remember it being out off of Billtown Road, past the I-265 overpass.
 
2002-01-26 11:32:33 PM  
Excellent. I remember very well where that's at, pretty close to the train trestle and the satanic church. har har
 
2002-01-27 03:33:16 AM  
Tom Bombadil, from what I have read, was actually a doll that one of Tolkein's children had. Tolkein made it a character in the beginning of the Fellowship of the Ring, when he was still gearing the series towards a younger audience, as he had done with the Hobbit.
 
2002-01-27 09:54:00 AM  
Do Hobbits have a special "friendship" with sheep or goats?
 
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