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(Blender)   Interview with The Cure's Robert Smith. Includes pics that show why being a middle-aged goth is even more embarassing than being a goth at all   (blender.com) divider line 717
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2004-07-22 04:32:57 PM
Is it me, or do all of these bands like the Strokes, the Killers and Franz Ferdinand not only all sound the same, but sound like sh*tty knock-offs of the Talking Heads?

Eh, I like Franz Ferdinand. They make me want to dance...or my version of dancing, which involves a inebriated flailing of the arms and legs.

your ice is melting.

I need more Maker's Mark, then. *glug*
 
2004-07-22 04:32:58 PM
BlindMan

Another good choice.

Is it me? Or did music peak in the 90's?

/getting old
 
2004-07-22 04:33:07 PM
300 posts on the thread and nobody pointed out the misspelling in the headline?

/embarrassing
 
2004-07-22 04:33:07 PM
To go slightly off-topic, what's everybody listening to right now?

Right now-The Rachels, Music for Egon Krentz.
 
2004-07-22 04:33:10 PM
keep on scrolling

'Stone Roses MUSIC rocks but Ian Brown CAN'T SING. I sometimes fast-fwd past his voice. (Almost but not quite as bad as Beth Gibbons' godawful screeching which practically ruins any greatness that is otherwise Portishead. I actually sold my copy of Dummy because her voice is so offensive to me.)'

Dude, you're sick. Beth Gibbons is the best former electronica vocalist named Beth that isn't Beth Orton.
 
2004-07-22 04:33:34 PM
Gothnet
There's less focus on depression to the goth community in the UK than people think, it's more existentialism (as far as I understand it, I'm no philosophy major) and atheism.

Remember, I knew a small slice of these people. They all came from similar backgrounds, and all were similarly shallow. I think these folks were what they were more because it garnered them some much-needed attention. I knew one of them tried to commit "suicide" with the dull side of a butter knife, then wrapped bandages around her wrists that screamed, "LOOK ON THIS! I HAVE BLED FOR MY SADDNESS."
 
2004-07-22 04:34:03 PM
"PERFECT MURDER" - Glove

Move inside my daydream
Like fingers in a glove
Twisting round and round and round
Round and round and round with love
The meeker sleeker circle girls dressed in docile white
Spinning on a hill they follow the dracula kite
The first idea flew thin and uninvited from the sky
I reached out my hands and held the knife of ice

Very thin red water flowed underneath my skin
I turned their eyes blue children
The perfect murder
Wait until the darkest coldest summer nights
That's when it starts
But if you blink you'll miss the fun
You'll lose their pretty hearts


I *still* love that song... I'll *still* see The Cure
(Covertly pushing TrentReznor Voodoo Doll back into the studio, though)

/notgoth
 
2004-07-22 04:34:07 PM
I always considered the goths were the people that didn't make grunge or geek movement.

Nihlism isn't new kids.
 
2004-07-22 04:34:21 PM
"Goth" is the best in-joke of all time.

Live it 24-7 or hate it, but if you take it at all seriously, the joke's on you.

LOLZ
 
2004-07-22 04:34:28 PM
The palexc playlist update:

Pixies - Trompe Le Monde

f'in A.
 
2004-07-22 04:34:31 PM
The Cure might have a bigger discography, but The Sisters of Mercy put on a better live show.

Some girls wander by mistake...

/some cats do, too.
 
2004-07-22 04:35:09 PM
2004-07-22 04:29:26 PM Theburner

EmilyK



A soulless place

just curious...does anyone here live in a soulful place?

I live in Atlanta, GA. There be a ton of soul down here.

and excellent public transportation I've heard (though nasty traffic) okay I'll be right there.
 
2004-07-22 04:36:45 PM
It's been fun chatting about music with you crazy Farkers. Good that Ghastly made an appearance and graced us with some poetry from that Venus with a penis, Freddy. How's Canada, eh? Been some time since I been there. (Not like Wisconsin is much different!)

Anyhow, I've got a drunk to catch up with and i'm about a fifth of rum behind. So wish me luck, fellow Farkers.

/Behold, the power of booze
 
2004-07-22 04:37:16 PM
Dead Can Dance ARE goth. A real goth WON'T ADMIT to being goth.

Just ask a goth if they are goth, duh!
 
2004-07-22 04:38:01 PM
Oh, and if somone admits to being a goth, they are obviously a posur.
 
2004-07-22 04:38:10 PM
We need a "What are you listening to right now?" thread.
 
2004-07-22 04:38:13 PM
palexc

'Is it me? Or did music peak in the 90's?

/getting old'


Can't agree...

The White Stripes put out great stuff. Interpol kicks my brain's ass and takes its lunch money. Radiohead still doing good stuff. The Strokes are excellent, backlash or no. Modest Mouse is better than ever (even if they are now on MTV - doh!). Plus twenty thousand other REALLY obscure bands. I'd say the 2000's are looking great for music.
 
2004-07-22 04:38:20 PM
Baaaburaaa, baaaburaaa.
 
2004-07-22 04:39:18 PM
i was a goth for years, still kinda am. went on tour as a goth musician in the mid90s with bands that are probably in every goth's record collection.

i dont understand when the whole fat goth thing happened, the girls i used to bang on tour were the most amazing things ever, looked like the chick on www.beautydestroyed.com

goths are pretentious and silly, but its a great scene, i'm proud to've been a part of it.
 
2004-07-22 04:39:25 PM
What are you listening to right now

PC Fan, mouse clicks... ( i sux )
 
2004-07-22 04:40:26 PM
I'm listening to Lacuna Coil now. Are they 'goth' anyone?
 
2004-07-22 04:40:37 PM
C-Nut - Margo Timmins has the voice you want to marry.
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nullandvoid - is is the best in-joke, Bauhaus created it by accident while high. Still, way back when it was a great way to condition girls the sex should be given freely to ultra-cool rockbilly types like myself in High School.


---------------
Listening to the Orishas
 
2004-07-22 04:41:05 PM
Fark is on its way to making a thread about The Cure hit the infinity mark.

/all hail our Fark overlords...
 
2004-07-22 04:42:29 PM
I'm sorry you feel that way about yourself. Have you thought about seeking help?

LukeCage: "what a sad worthless human being.........."
 
2004-07-22 04:42:43 PM


Yikes.

"arrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhh boys no like fire, arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghh"


Let's face it, the only people who really listened to the cure in the '80's were fat girls with acne and boys who liked playing in their mother's panty draw.

(kidding)
 
2004-07-22 04:43:28 PM
Radworld4
If you think goths are failed grunge kids, then you must certainly be a young'un. They've been around a bit longer than that.
 
2004-07-22 04:43:44 PM
"
'Is it me? Or did music peak in the 90's?
"

i think the downfall of pop music was about the time of Cure's Disintegration or U2's Joshua Tree. the seattle scene was good, too, but the diversity of popmusic in the 80s has really died.

everyone's still copying alice and chains and pearl jam, or its some rap metal bullshiat or some "soul" shiat that's been unchanged since 1985.

the thing is, and here's the MBA geek in me coming out, the diversity of the people making music in the 80s, the number of studios and producers, this has all been consolidated down to a few people and studios, and the nature of the industry has totally changed, now its more of a vegas stage show than musical creativity.

there's still pletny of great new music coming out, but its not getting signed to majors. its getting put out on the web, and its staying within its respective scenes. sort of a bummer, coz its harder to hear new stuff.

ok lunch is over.
 
2004-07-22 04:43:58 PM
listening to
handsome modelling schoolboy
postal service
-both are excellent

how come the ramones tribute cd sucked?
 
2004-07-22 04:44:14 PM
Man...The Cure was good back in the day, but their last album sucked goats.

As for what I've been listening to:
Franz Ferdnand
Modest Mouse
Breaking Benjamin
Tool
Korn
Black Label Society
 
2004-07-22 04:44:31 PM
EmilyK.

No sweat. Come on down.
 
2004-07-22 04:45:05 PM
martijn - when i read your comment i was listening to shot in the dark by ozzy, now an accoustic version of the outsider by a perfect circle. i am saddened by the recent lack of love for the maynard. used to be "goth", but i was always to hyper to be accepted by my "tortured" peers. so, yeah, as said earlier, if you actually take it seriously, you're a bigger fool than the ones in mascera you're laughing at...
/tool, nin, and APC all have new albums commin' out in the next year or so...oh, bliss...
 
2004-07-22 04:45:19 PM
martinj

the reivers END OF THE DAY

/jangle pop with overproduced drums
 
2004-07-22 04:46:11 PM
nullandvoid

Glad to see somebody get's it :)
It's great fun. Especially when people take offence.

We once had this old lady removed from a pharmacy in town because she was screaming that we were the devils children, 'cos we were in there looking at eyeliner!

I don't go in for the extreme look so much these days, it's too much effort, but it's so much fun.
 
2004-07-22 04:46:26 PM
Marlas_Cancer,

Anything Dulli/Twilight is way allright by me.

A most excellent choice that never disappoints.
 
2004-07-22 04:46:46 PM
All I know for sure is that goth chicks in the 80's were consistently gorgeous, and I had more of them hanging off me as a makeup-wearing pansy teen boy than I could ever hope for now.
 
2004-07-22 04:47:15 PM
ooh, jangle pop. nice!
 
2004-07-22 04:47:23 PM
Just put on a little Cyborg Attack!
 
2004-07-22 04:47:49 PM
BlindMan Dude, you're sick. Beth Gibbons is the best former electronica vocalist named Beth that isn't Beth Orton.

I'm actually a farkette but the odds admittedly weren't in that favor. ;-) I stand by my assertion about Beth Gibbons. Her voice is thin, weak, warbly, and in need of a voice coach to help her with her range.
 
2004-07-22 04:47:59 PM
jefrey, with one f, jefrey, with one f, jefrey...
 
2004-07-22 04:48:06 PM
ken_vs_ryu - because not even the Ramones could adequately cover the Ramones. By their 5th or so album they learned a little more about how to play and lost something.
 
2004-07-22 04:48:13 PM
martijn:

> I'm listening to Lacuna Coil now. Are they 'goth' anyone?

Nah. They're one of those metal bands with depressing lyrics, guitarists who don't solo, and a vocalist with a nice voice and better legs.
 
2004-07-22 04:49:08 PM
Right now, I'm listening to a reexamination of Paganini's Caprice 24, rendered entirely in flatulence by a consumptive monk from Brussels. Those who know anything at all about music know who I'm talking about.
 
2004-07-22 04:50:01 PM
Is it just me, or does he bear a striking resemblance to Strong Sad?

-Phil
 
2004-07-22 04:50:10 PM
Father_Jack

'i think the downfall of pop music was about the time of Cure's Disintegration or U2's Joshua Tree. the seattle scene was good, too, but the diversity of popmusic in the 80s has really died.

everyone's still copying alice and chains and pearl jam, or its some rap metal bullshiat or some "soul" shiat that's been unchanged since 1985.

the thing is, and here's the MBA geek in me coming out, the diversity of the people making music in the 80s, the number of studios and producers, this has all been consolidated down to a few people and studios, and the nature of the industry has totally changed, now its more of a vegas stage show than musical creativity.

there's still pletny of great new music coming out, but its not getting signed to majors. its getting put out on the web, and its staying within its respective scenes. sort of a bummer, coz its harder to hear new stuff.'


The problem with music isn't that there isn't great music out there, people continue to innovate and develop new stuff informed by some great precedents (lots of those bands have been mentioned here).

The problem, if there is one, is that the average person has shiat taste. When Britney Spears outsells Radiohead, something is terribly farking wrong with people.

I question if there is a problem because great music is out there and you can listen to it if you want to, it's probably easier than ever, actually. There has been a cultural move away from good stuff here though. So idiots listen to worse stuff than ever... of course idiots of twenty wears ago were listening to Winger, so maybe not...
 
2004-07-22 04:50:50 PM
usd2busmc
I can't believe I found someone else that knows of the reivers! Too cool. Took me years to find that album.
 
2004-07-22 04:51:16 PM
Ooh, if we're gonna have a Portishead flamewar, can I get on the firmly 'anti' side?
 
2004-07-22 04:52:02 PM
The problem, if there is one, is that the average person has shiat taste. When Britney Spears outsells Radiohead, something is terribly farking wrong with people.

I totally agree, but I would also add that people's attention span for music has gotten shorter. Too much that's similar thrown out there too fast. Nothing sticks anymore.
 
2004-07-22 04:52:24 PM
I do NOT want to restart the Camus discussion please. That said:

Best Song Part #42

Of course Sex Pistols came in at number twelve :D.

But Phil Collins was number one. :(
 
2004-07-22 04:54:14 PM
Goth Kids,

Please go home, wash that shiat off you face and apoligize to your mothers!

/my goth faze ended over 10 years ago, now I want to burn every HotTopic I see to the ground for making me feel old
 
2004-07-22 04:54:40 PM
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'I stand by my assertion about Beth Gibbons. Her voice is thin, weak, warbly, and in need of a voice coach to help her with her range.'

See I disagree on this point. You know who has an amazing voice and tons of technical skill - Mariah Carey. I think we can all agree that she is the Sux0r! In my opinion being a great singer -isn't- about technical skill, it's about being evocative and interesting to listen to. Beth Gibbons (vis-a-vis Portishead) is both of those things.
 
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