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(SFGate)   McCain on the vice presidency: "I spent a number of years in a North Vietnamese prison camp in the dark and (was) fed scraps, and I don't know why I would want to do that all over again"   (sfgate.com) divider line 206
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2004-07-21 04:53:12 PM
Hmmm...interesting choice of metaphors...
 
2004-07-21 06:31:29 PM
I dunno. The White House press corps gets fed scraps and sits in the dark most of the time and they seem to like it.
 
2004-07-21 06:40:10 PM
Hee hee. Cheney must be turning bright red right now.

Ever get the feeling McCain doesn't like Bush & Cheney much?
 
2004-07-21 06:42:20 PM
Why is this man not president?
 
2004-07-21 06:43:53 PM
Obdicut

McCain hates Dick/Bush. In the 2000 primaries, Karl Rove through push polling accused McCain of fathering an illegitimate (sp) vietnamese child - when in fact McCain's daughter is an adopted Banladeshi.

I may have the nationalities wrong, but that is indeed what happened.
 
2004-07-21 07:04:40 PM
Why does John McCain hate America?

For that matter, why does Molly McButter hate America?
 
2004-07-21 08:16:45 PM
McCain for President in 2004, 2008, 2012, and 2016!
 
2004-07-21 08:17:57 PM
McCain vs. Clinton in 2008. You heard it here first.
 
2004-07-21 09:03:31 PM
Ok, now THAT was funny!
 
2004-07-21 09:08:48 PM
Mr. Programmer The simple answer to your question is that the real powers in America picked Bush to run for President in 1998 and put all their money behind him because they knew that they'd have a lot, though not total, control over him. McCain put up a good fight, but couldn't quite overcome the Bush campaign's money edge.

This Libertarian is hoping that Kerry wins so that McCain will run and win in 2008. If he does, it will be the first time I'll vote for a non-Libertarian since I voted for Bush I in 1988.

I don't think Kerry will be able to do much damage to the country in four years with a vehemently contentious Republican dominated Congress.
 
2004-07-21 09:35:49 PM
Mccain should seriously have run against Bush in the Republican primary, he is the real deal
 
2004-07-21 10:13:02 PM
John McCain? About as real a Republican as is currently in congress.
 
2004-07-21 10:30:06 PM
Because your country needs you too, you goddamn primadona.
 
2004-07-22 02:05:27 AM
That was god damn funny.
 
2004-07-22 02:07:44 AM
Some people have claimed that he is mentally instable. I think that this was another rumor concocted by Rove. Obviously, he's got to have a will of steel to have lived through what he did.
 
2004-07-22 02:09:25 AM
I respectfully agree with the senator.
 
2004-07-22 02:10:36 AM
The man has a point. I'm not the biggest Republican fan but McCain would get my vote in a heartbeat. He doesn't mess around and is pretty upfront about many things.

/McCain for Pres. '08
/Kerry for Pres. '04
 
2004-07-22 02:11:52 AM
Plus, he kicked ass on Saturday Night Live. As a Democrat, I've really got to search for reasons not to like him.
 
2004-07-22 02:12:24 AM
This just made a shiatty day better.
 
2004-07-22 02:13:39 AM
Mushroomed?

/kept in dark, fed shiat
 
2004-07-22 02:15:43 AM
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

That is the best thing I've read all day!
 
2004-07-22 02:22:51 AM
McCain=hero
 
2004-07-22 02:23:47 AM
If McCain were up against Kerry for election now, I would seriously consider voting for him. And I'm a democrat and die-hard liberal.
 
2004-07-22 02:24:51 AM
How I wish this man were ours. Integrity, honesty, vision.
 
2004-07-22 02:25:03 AM
Very late for my day, very early for this soon to follow flamefest, but
2004-07-21 09:08:48 PM ClayParrot
well stated. I however voted for our party instead of Senior GB.Of course, I knew we hadda snowballs chance. ...

Why can we NOT have a damn representative govt ? 1 from each side.
Right now I have a rep. gov, and a dem light gov. No worries, as to that. But why do we insist on a same party ticket ? anyone ? I'll check back in in the morning, I have seven dollars to go spend after my bath
/ seven dollars refereance solver gets a cookie.with extra chips on it.
 
2004-07-22 02:26:46 AM
If McCain were up against Kerry for election now, I would seriously consider voting for him. And I'm a democrat and die-hard liberal.

("democrat" said somewhat shamefully I'm afraid to say, considering many of the people in our party, but "liberal" said proudly.)
 
2004-07-22 02:27:05 AM
I'm a Republican.

I voted for McCain over Bush last time around.
 
2004-07-22 02:27:09 AM
It's late at night here in the US. I agree that when everyone wakes up, a raging flamewar will indeed ensue.
 
2004-07-22 02:29:22 AM
He's not on the ticket, get over it!!! Stuck with bush and cronies.
 
2004-07-22 02:30:16 AM
No worries, as to that. But why do we insist on a same party ticket ? anyone ?

I don't remember my history class well enough to answer this question, but go back and look at the passage of US Const. Amend. 12, ratified 1804. You might find something there.

Before the passage of this amendment, people ran for president alone, without a running mate. First place got President, second place got Vice.
 
2004-07-22 02:32:43 AM
I think it's pretty obvious that McCain was very very deeply affected by his stint in the Hanoi Hilton. Daily torture, humiliation, solitary confinement, and insufficient nutrition for a few years tend to really change the way you look at the world.

Even if John McCain were actually mentally unstable, I'm sure that he's not unstable to the point where it would affect his judgement. He also happens to be the best candidate to run for president in any US election in the past decade.

This man would have also been our president if it weren't for religious extremist bible-thumpers flocking to Bush and the lies about McCain fathering an illegitimate child. I talked to a bunch of Republicans in AOL chatrooms during the elections and a lot of them said they "Just didn't trust him" or "He just seems crazy". Many of them were also deeply concerned at his lack of fanatical religosity.
 
2004-07-22 02:34:57 AM
We never would have had any problems with Florida if McCain had won the nomination. McCain would have absolutely mopped the floor with Gore like Reagan versus Mondale.
 
2004-07-22 02:37:43 AM
When can we just decide that Drew should run for president? A man for the people, and a beer lover.
 
2004-07-22 02:41:11 AM
McCain had the chance to pull off something truly great by partnering up with Kerry, but blew his chance. I'm not old, but I can't imagine a time where the nation is more polarized (aside from the Civil War, hard to beat that one). Just imagine one from "each side" taking the reigns together - it would have had a serious positive effect.

But anyway, enough of my irrelevant rambling. Carry on.
 
2004-07-22 02:42:53 AM
If McCain ran against Kerry in '08 I'd have a real hard time choosing between the two. Whereas now it is no contest, Kerry in a heartbeat.
 
2004-07-22 02:43:01 AM
Oh, I thought this quote summed up quite a bit:

"The president and vice president enjoy a very close working relationship, perhaps the closest in history," McCain said.
 
2004-07-22 02:43:17 AM
I would have voted McCain for Pres. too. I still might if my choices don't get any better. I'm still hoping for some serious 1968 style fracas at one of the conventions, and the electors to throw a curveball. Since most of the primaries on the Demo side (and ALL of the primaries on the Repub. side) were just masturbatory motions, I hope to see something galvanize the electors to put up a fresh slate.

/Its either that, or Bill the Cat gets another thumbs up.
 
qev
2004-07-22 02:47:48 AM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I love that guy!!

/that guy being John McCain
 
2004-07-22 02:51:24 AM
I think that this is the most unanimous fark thread ever....
 
2004-07-22 02:52:41 AM
briandogg

Yes it would be great in a perfect world. But in this world since its down to the Spacemonkey and Lurch. I'd rather take Lurch, since he definately has more going on up there than Spacemonkey. Anyway did you RTFHeadline?
 
2004-07-22 02:54:32 AM
McCain is 68 right now, I think Senator Kerry is 60 and I believe Bush is almost 60. Bush and Kerry are the right age to be president; by 2008 McCain will be far too old, older than Reagan even. Really 2000 (or 2004 if not for the felon voter list in Florida) was the man's only shot. Sad.
 
2004-07-22 02:58:18 AM
I've had a lot of respect for John McCain in the past but I'm disappointed with the party line crap he's currently spouting to support Bush, especially after the way he was screwed by Bush and Co. in the 2000 primaries.
 
2004-07-22 03:00:54 AM
I was hoping McCain would of join Kerry and I Think it was selfish for McCain not too. By that I mean that if McCain would of joined up with Kerry political parties would of imploded. If McCain would of not of been so selfish he could of restructured the way parties were made. It could of truely been a ground breaking movement in politics but I think he knew that the REpublicans would not back him with money and support in 2008 if he stepped out now. To me that is where he became a selfish person even though I would vote for him in a heart beat. He seems to be one of the most honest Americans and the reason Bush got ahead of him was because Satan, I mean Rove, ran an ad campaign about how McCain voted for an abortion bill and how he must like killing babies. This polarized the religious people and sent them to their new prophet George Bush. I really really wish McCain would of thought in the grander scheme of things and stepped over the line, told the GOP to stuff it and help the political environment in this country.
 
2004-07-22 03:09:20 AM
I know Senator McCain, and his family. Want to know a secret THE DUDE IS BATshiat INSANE!
 
2004-07-22 03:11:58 AM
As much as I would love to see McCain be President I am affraid it will never happen. McCain is not what the Republican leadership consider a good presidential candidate. Not because he would lose... oh hell no. Everybody knows that if McCain ran he would win, he is like a farking FDR when it comes to popularity. No, the problem that the Republican leadership has with McCain is that he does not do what he is told. He has a mind and will of his own and that makes him a loose cannon as a President as far as they see it.

So no, unless something changes in the Republican party in the next four years, we are not going to see a McCain Presidential run.
 
2004-07-22 03:12:41 AM
"McCain vs. Clinton in 2008. You heard it here first."

I like McCain, but his time is past. He should have put together a real team to run in 2000-or in 1996. He's 68 years old-he'll be 72 in 2008. No way I can vote for a guy that old. And don't give me the Reagan example-he was 69 when he ran, and HE was senile even back then.
 
2004-07-22 03:14:04 AM
Any chance we could get McCain involved as an independent? Just think of the possibility of Farkers uniting and helping in this movement. I dispise both Rainman & Lurch, like many of you, and I'd like to see Big John run.

/one political thread I'll be a party to
 
2004-07-22 03:14:35 AM
FUBuddy

How is it selfish for him to have politcal views sharply contrasting with Kerry's? There's a reason we have only one party in the executive branch at a time.

/would have.
 
2004-07-22 03:15:07 AM
John McCain is a hell of a guy, but.....

NO WAY should he be elected to any office higher than his current one. I admire him for what he's done and been through, but if there ever was a manchurian candidate, he's the guy.
 
2004-07-22 03:15:21 AM
As a lifelong liberal I must say I love McCain. Not because I agree with him most of the time because I dont, but because I feel that he is one of the few in DC who is not selfserving and will screw me over. I trust him to do what he thinks is the right thing even if I dont agree. THe fact that he represents the people and not big corperations is a plus. I would vote for him in a second. This coming from a guy who voted for Nader in 2000.
 
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