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(Washington State Legislature)   Banning evolution: it's not just a dumb idea, in Washington State it's a proposed law   ( divider line
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2002-01-24 02:17:19 PM  
Did I do it??
2002-01-24 02:17:31 PM  
So, what, these people are not allowed to evolve anymore?
2002-01-24 02:17:50 PM  
All these years I've been evolving and now I'm repugnant?
2002-01-24 02:19:14 PM  
Whee got my Boobies now all I have to do is get an article accepted... I do hate seeing people with dozens accepted and a fark account number 10,000 after mine
2002-01-24 02:21:14 PM  
I guess the Canadians were right to stop evolving 10000 years ago.
2002-01-24 02:23:09 PM  
These guys were big fans of the Dark Ages.
2002-01-24 02:24:41 PM  
In other news, scientific process, thinking, and common sense have also been outlawed.

"God bless America!" indeed.
2002-01-24 02:25:32 PM  
Let em do it.. pull all the books. The same thing almost happened in some backwoods state down south... Forget which one. But the minute it went into "law", nearly every institution of higher learning the the country discredited every school that followed the rule. It really pissed off the 4 or 5 college bound students in the state, so it was revoked.

Let 'em throw out a few hundred years of technological adavancement to appease a small group of meat puppets.
2002-01-24 02:26:08 PM  
Makes me proud to live here! Maybe they can ban earthquakes and riots too...
2002-01-24 02:26:23 PM  
Well, it is the Pacific Northwest. With all that rain it can be hard to see the light. Haha, get it?! See the l--

Aw, screw you guys.
2002-01-24 02:26:23 PM  
And somewhere, Jack Chick smiled the biggest smile he could muster. Then he realized smiling was blasphemous and promptly wrote a tract about how smiling gets you a ticket to hell.
2002-01-24 02:26:34 PM  
Yeah, it's a proposed law. But stupid laws get proposed all the time, and not just on the state level. That doesn't mean they actually get anywhere.
Still, it is scary that someone went to all the trouble of writing one up.
With all the references to the constitution and bill of rights, they left out the freedom of religion part.

Here's a link for info on the separation of church and state.
2002-01-24 02:27:16 PM  
Good lord. The case for packing up and moving to, say, Norway grows stronger every day.
2002-01-24 02:28:46 PM  
Another moronic bill written by a solitary fundie wack-job legislator. These are almost never seriously considered, you know, if that makes you all feel safer. But don't take your eyes off these a**holes for a minute nonetheless. If they had their way your kids would be expelled for asking too many difficult questions about the fossil record...

"But Gould clearly shows in his research on sea snail sub-species..."

"Homeland Security to classroom three! We have a troublemaker!"
2002-01-24 02:28:46 PM  
Let me try this again.
2002-01-24 02:28:48 PM  
who is this "Creator" they keep speaking of?
2002-01-24 02:28:56 PM  
All the same, I do textbooks for a living. You would shiat your pants if I told you the hoops we have to jump through so as not to offend all the dumbasses in this country.
2002-01-24 02:31:00 PM  
Isn't Seattle in Washington? I just don't understand. I guess that one liberal metropolis does not an enlightened state make.
2002-01-24 02:31:22 PM  
The stupid ass southern state was Tenn. In fact, a teacher was taken to court for teaching evolution in the state. I expect this in the bible belt, but Washington? I thought they followed common sense, not the Bible
2002-01-24 02:31:29 PM  
Oh, well - to bad, so sad, this is going to be a fun thread!
2002-01-24 02:31:51 PM  
Jesus wept
2002-01-24 02:32:44 PM  
hahaha. yeah, that'll pass.

did anyone else actually read it? that's got to be the most convoluted, bass-ackwards "argument" for the teaching of creationism over evolution that I've seen.

Senator Hochstatter can pretty much crawl back into the cave he came from as far as I'm concerned. Anyone got any spare Daisy Cutters?
2002-01-24 02:32:51 PM  
"Once again it likes your 'science' fails in the face of overwhelming religion." Seriously, though, these Real Americans are making fun of the Taliban for being a bunch of hyperreligious retards?
2002-01-24 02:32:52 PM  
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Where is your GOD now?
2002-01-24 02:33:27 PM  
How do these people conclude that something is "unconstitutional" because it "violates the principles of the Declaration of Independence"? The Declaration of Independence is not a binding document, it is not law. It's a list of complaints and greivances, essentially propaganda.

This would bother me more if I thought this idiocy had a snowball's chance of actually becoming law.
2002-01-24 02:34:15 PM  
I could see this coming. Other possibly proposed things they won't teach anymore:

Laws of Gravity.
The need for Antibiotics and Medication for the sick.
Why one should use Soap.
Why Electricity is good.
The Earth is Round.
All Math and Physics.
And while we're at it we could bring back the Spanish Inquisition for those non-Catholics out there like me.

After all if its law it must be true, and heaven forbid we allow the teaching of fact and truth. If I had to take a trip, and I had an option of two pilots, one who only read the Bible, and one who was trained in Math and Piloting, I'd pick the latter.

Creation is bubkus, and its faulty reasoning. If everything was created, and the creator is everything, who created the creator? I mean we could end up with a line of 400 creators this way.

On the other hand you have the truth that the simplest explaination is often the one that is true. That is, we're here, we evolved from a product of billions of years of Evolution. That to me makes more sense than us popping up out of nowhere.

Look at the Laws of Gravity, Newton's laws of physics, and proof that the Earth is Round and the proof of heliocentric theory - all accomplished without the Bible, all proof, and they're not even in the Bible.

And there's more but I must go.
2002-01-24 02:34:34 PM  
All your Jesus are belong to us.
2002-01-24 02:35:25 PM  
What the h*ll ever happened to "separation of church and state"

F*cking dumbassess.

There you go! Elected STUPID people to office, you get STUPID laws!
2002-01-24 02:35:49 PM  

"The Declaration of Independence declares the self-evident truth that all men are created. The Declaration of Independence also declares that our rights are endowed by the Creator, and that governments are instituted among men to secure these God-given rights."

I see no reason to bring God into this. Men are created, of course. But they are created by their parents.

And not by some invisible pink unicorn.

2002-01-24 02:35:53 PM  
Oh yeah, and let the flame war begin.

*Passes the torch*
2002-01-24 02:36:07 PM  
Then again, this is Washington state we're talking about.
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2002-01-24 02:38:33 PM  
(wiping tear from eye)
Silly, silly state.
2002-01-24 02:39:59 PM  
If the theory of evolution is a threat to a god, then why would I want to worship that god?

Also, why are creationalism and evolution mutually exclusive? I mean, the bible is filled with metaphor yet Genesis is interpreted literally.

Find the answers to these and other interesting questions in this month's issue of "Why the fark are you such a ignorant dumbass inbred hick?"
2002-01-24 02:42:08 PM  
Land of the free indeed. Doesn't America have something like this:

* Everyone has the right, within the limits of the law, to freely express his opinion by word of mouth and in writing, print, or pictorial representation.

* The Press may be neither subjected to censorship nor restricted by the licensing system. Administrative postal distribution vetoes do not apply to inland publication.

* Everyone is guaranteed complete freedom of conscience and creed.

* The enjoyment of civic and political rights is independent of religious belief. Nevertheless duties incumbent on nationals may not be prejudiced by religious beliefs.

* No one can be forced to observe a ritual act or to participate in an ecclesiastical ceremony in so far as he is not subordinate to another who is by law invested with such authority.

* Every Church and religious society recognized by the law has the right to joint public religious practice, arranges and administers its internal affairs autonomously, and retains possession and enjoyment of its institutions, endowments, and funds devoted to worship, instruction, and welfare, but is like every society subject to the general laws of the land.

* Knowledge and its teaching are free.

Austria does. I thought America did, too.
2002-01-24 02:44:47 PM  
(1) Declaration of independence says we have the inalienable human right to pursue happiness.

(2) Ignorance is bliss

(3) Bliss is synonymous with happiness

(4) Teachers reduce ignorance by forcing children to obtain knowledge

(5) Teachers are violating our human rights
2002-01-24 02:48:46 PM  
Lets hope this goes the way of that bill attempting to leagally set pi = 3.
2002-01-24 02:50:27 PM  
Holmes--the pink unicorn that created me wasn't invisible.
2002-01-24 02:57:28 PM  
i suggest we all move the hell outta this country before it's too late.
2002-01-24 02:57:53 PM  
2002-01-24 02:59:42 PM  
Some moron wanted to set Pi as exactly 3? Nice work, jackasses.

Separation of church and state is one reason this law should not pass. Logic is too :):):)
2002-01-24 02:59:55 PM  
Pmshaw - Then you must be worshiped like that little kid with the tail too
2002-01-24 03:00:56 PM  
Someone set us up the Jesus!
2002-01-24 03:01:20 PM  
that rules.

yeah, we all know the magic pie man in the sky snapped us all into existence, it's the only explanation.

How about we just rewrite god out of everything government? take it off the money, out of the constitution, the pledge, etc...
2002-01-24 03:02:23 PM  
This proposal is gonna' get kicked off of the table SO fast that its sponsor won't know what hit it.

That aside, there are some real bumbkins on the East side of the mountains, guys. I seriously doubt that this bit of legislative weirdness came from the western (rain-soaked) part of the state!
2002-01-24 03:05:47 PM  
Well, the idiot who wrote this gets the credit with the fundies for introducing it. He knows it'll die in committee, assuming it even gets placed on the agenda. Then he gets to blame whoever he can find, and the cycle continues.

Politics - doing stupid things for bad reasons.
2002-01-24 03:06:59 PM  
Sheesh. I'm glad I live across the river in Oregon. Hopefully the air this guy has been breathing won't make it that far. Remember the history lesson about the Scopes Monkey Trials (I think MO?) back in the 30's? The teacher wanted to present both sides (evolution and creationism) and was arrested and charged with something dumb like blasphemy. Here it is 70 years later and they want to do it again. "Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it".
2002-01-24 03:07:15 PM  
I (heart) puppyskin hats
2002-01-24 03:07:23 PM  
I'm hoping this guy represents some back woods district of Washington and not an urbane area.
2002-01-24 03:07:37 PM  
First we have the "electrically sensatives" banning RF emissions, and now this. Anybody care to join me in my plan to head off into space and nuke the Earth from orbit?
2002-01-24 03:09:36 PM  
I mark out "In God We Trust" from all my money.
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