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2004-07-18 02:45:27 PM  
If I were really so in love that I wanted to get married, a proposal would be good enough.

Calvin Hobbes I fell in love with a guy who works 100 hours a week--he told me this, before I even knew him. I'm willing to settle for whatever I can get. That's who he is--why would I expect him to change for me?
 
2004-07-18 02:51:24 PM  
The pic in question is at:

http://www.bcasj.or.jp/jsm/photocon/first_prize.html
 
2004-07-18 02:54:38 PM  
 
2004-07-18 02:54:54 PM  
"She's great! Although her ass is spreading exponentially..."

Women get fat because they start cooking all that man-food and then they have to eat it too.

Either that or they're just lazy and they waited to get fat until they landed a man.
 
2004-07-18 02:56:58 PM  
What, like the men don't get fat and hideous too?
 
2004-07-18 03:00:37 PM  
Veee

I know what I like, but unless your tastes run to video games, a German car, MST3K and really thick steaks

Sounds good to me! Except for the steak, I'd prefer a big bowl of pasta. ..Um, not that I'm proposing or anything. ; )

Hey! I love pasta! This could work...

cryinoutloud

Calvin Hobbes I fell in love with a guy who works 100 hours a week--he told me this, before I even knew him. I'm willing to settle for whatever I can get. That's who he is--why would I expect him to change for me?

Sounds like he lucked out. Let me just say that women like you are not commonplace, in my limited experience.
 
2004-07-18 03:02:40 PM  
What, like the men don't get fat and hideous too?

Oh no... that's not the point. I've never heard a man advise another man "Hey! You're married now... you can let yourself go..."

That attitude seems to be uniquely female... I certainly wouldn't say that it applies to all females, or even most, but... still...
 
2004-07-18 03:06:40 PM  
Calvin Hobbes I didn't mention that the guy is a farking genius. I am completely in awe of his mind, and he would be a fool to neglect anything that he does for a piece of tail, even if it's mine.

Hey--you're a physicist? So's he--currently at Princeton, of all places. Doing something that I can't even comprehend, even after he explained it to me.
 
2004-07-18 03:10:41 PM  
Hey--you're a physicist? So's he--currently at Princeton, of all places. Doing something that I can't even comprehend, even after he explained it to me.

My schooling is as one... but I've never worked in my field. I don't know that I'd be able to understand what he does any better than you do... mostly in physics I sat in the back row and kept saying "bullshiat... you don't really know... you're just making crap up" ... It seemed like after 2nd year it was all just theory based on observation...

But I digress...
 
2004-07-18 03:13:44 PM  
Lamune Buba, that cast iron skillet looks appealing. You know, most army/navy supply stores sell cast iron cookwear at low, low prices. But I also agree with the poster who gets excited about copper cookwear - a well-made set of pots and pans makes all the difference. Throw in some quality knives, and oh honey, I'll marry you tomorrow. And the honeymoon won't stop.

I've seen firsthand the goo-goo gushing over sparkly diamonds from newly-engaged women. If you're not that woman, you just smile nicely and nod. I'm not so gossipy that when she leaves the room I make comments about her. Different strokes for diff'rent folks. She's happy, whats so bad about that?

When people at work show me baby pictures, I smile and say oh how nice! Then I pull out pictures of my parents and adult siblings, and insist they look at those too (yes, I do keep these pictures in my desk, because I live half a world away from everyone and its nice to have pictures of them close to me, just for myself). For some reason this elicits less enthusiastic responses, but they rarely bring their photo albums around me again...
 
2004-07-18 03:16:10 PM  
Calvin Hobbes
I've never heard a man advise another man "Hey! You're married now... you can let yourself go..."

That attitude seems to be uniquely female


I've never heard a woman say anything close to that before. I fear the women in your life.
 
2004-07-18 03:19:27 PM  
I did not come up with the 20 % figure, DeBeers did. I am just stating the facts as I have heard them.

What I require in a relationship is not dictated by any marketing firm.

It cracks me up farkers will rip a girl apart for protruding pu$$y lips, and then are shocked and amazed when SOME girls use their beauty to provide security for themselves, and their children. I have known women who have traded security for their youth - Don't shoot the messenger. It's been this way your ages.

Is it possible??? Are Farkers SHALLOW???

Say it isn't so!!
 
2004-07-18 03:22:02 PM  
Calvin Hobbes I recently abandoned a master's program in psychology for the same reason. My first conversation with the physicist had to do with who was crazier and more full of shiat--physicists or shrinks. I still think shrinks.

Yes, I am thread-jacking.
 
2004-07-18 03:22:25 PM  
From the picture, it looks like it's about 1000 times
smaller than what would fit on her finger.

Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but I don't think his woman
will be happy with it unless it can be resized a bit.
 
2004-07-18 03:23:31 PM  
I fear the women in your life.

Hehehe... don't worry... these aren't the women that I date... these anecdotes are collected from years of working with women. Women will say a lot more to (or at least within earshot of) a coworker than they will to a potential love interest.

/won't date women from work
 
2004-07-18 03:26:24 PM  
I have known women who have traded security for their youth - Don't shoot the messenger. It's been this way your ages.

Well, yes... I mean biological evidence suggests that women look to their mates for security... good providers for their offspring. Men look for the most attractive mate they can get to produce the best offspring.

But still... can't we move beyond this Naked Ape stuff?
 
2004-07-18 03:27:25 PM  
It's mildly off-subject, but--what do thw worldly and wise people of Farkistan think about non-diamond engagement rings? What about something like pearl? If it had special meaning, would that abrogate the breach of standard protocol? Or is it diamonds forever? Just curious...
 
2004-07-18 03:32:52 PM  
I'm down with a diamond, but NO WAY IN HELL should it be two month salary; more like one week. I'd be happy with a small diamond, or even a CZ, with blue side stones set in white gold (or even silver). 500 bucks max.

If we ladies can shell out 400 bucks for your damn iPod, you can buy us a decent ring that will symbolize your love and all that shiate. I think the ring should encompass stuff that she would like, not how huge the diamond is. Like I love blue stones, so if my boyfriend got me a ring with blue stones, I'd flip.

Actually, if my boyfriend popped the question period I'd flip.

/bitter
 
2004-07-18 03:48:26 PM  
Selloutvixen

Like I love blue stones, so if my boyfriend got me a ring with blue stones, I'd flip.

You tell him this?

Actually, if my boyfriend popped the question period I'd flip.

You tell him this?
 
2004-07-18 03:54:47 PM  
The only reason I'd want any kind of ring is so that other guys know I'm taken. Not that I'm fighting them off with a stick, but it's kind of nice when you feel like you "belong" to somebody, and you can just look at that ring to confirm it.

And of course, you get to say, "That's MY man" and be reasonably sure that it's true.

He could give me a ring from a Cracker-Jack box, and if it meant the same thing, I'd be OK with it. That is, of course, unless he's saving his money to buy himself an iPod or something.

(But we'd probably have to bow to conformity and get a REAL ring, so everybody wouldn't make fun of us.)
 
2004-07-18 03:56:23 PM  
Calvin -

Call me traditional, I believe the reason the divorce rate may be so high is we've moved away from the 'naked ape' stuff a little too far.

Be a real woman - stay at home & take care of him , stay in shape, career second. The diamonds or whatever else seems important to you will seem insignificant to the satisfaction you get from your home life. IF you know what I'm sayin' ; )

Invictus5000 - I have sapphires, myself.
 
2004-07-18 03:58:52 PM  
big hoop earrings
Be a real woman - stay at home & take care of him , stay in shape, career second.

Holy crap. Did I read that right?
 
2004-07-18 04:06:48 PM  
So? If you choose to get married, that's where your priorities should be. My point is THATS why, in part the divorce rate is so high.
 
2004-07-18 04:08:11 PM  
This is my own theory, based on, you know, some stuff I've read: Part of the reason the divorce rate is so high is because we live in a culture that attempts to offer us infinite choices. The more choices, the better, right? Give me more stuff.... Why should we settle for just one mate for our whole lives? Get on the internet and find a new one!

It is engrained in us in our society that we should never be satisfied with what we have. Why would spouses be regarded any differently?
 
2004-07-18 04:09:55 PM  
Be a real woman - stay at home & take care of him , stay in shape, career second.

Holy crap. Did I read that right?


Probably... there is actually a fairly strong movement out there in this direction. Things have a tendancy to swing back after reaching an extreme, much like a pendulum; but, like a pendulum, the first thing that happens is it swings to the opposite extreme.

We've been through a period of rather extreme feminism. It's only natural that when the swing starts back towards the middle we go right on through and have movements like Real Women and Surrendered Wives ...

Ultimately we will sort this all out, but I doubt it will be in our lifetimes.
 
2004-07-18 04:12:55 PM  
cryinoutloud-

Thank you. This reaffirms my point - if you choose to be married put some effort & backing behind your man. Your CHOICE. Stick to it. Him. Fark the dang ring, anyway.

It's not really about the farkin ring is it???
 
2004-07-18 04:33:40 PM  
big hoop earrings
So? If you choose to get married, that's where your priorities should be.

To state it in such a manner (stay at home & take care of him , stay in shape, career second) that suggests it's the only and right way to go about it is bullshiat. To say there is only one right way to be in a marriage is just as asinine as saying there are infinite choices.

There are many ways to take care of a man that don't involve cooking dinner every night and scrubbing the toilet every Sunday. What if the couple doesn't have kids? Is the woman still supposed to stay home and take care of the house and greet her husband with a martini every night?

cryinoutloud fell in love with a man who works 100 hours a week, and she doesn't want to change him. Why should a woman's career come second, especially if she has already established herself in her field? Aren't we supposed to love each other for who we are and not expect to change our significant others?

If a man or woman wants to stay home and be a "housewife" (I don't like that term, anything better out there?), that's fine, as long as it works and it's what they want. But it's not the only way to have a successful marriage.
 
2004-07-18 04:35:58 PM  
And Calvin Hobbes' post doesn't reaffirm your point. Read it again: Things have a tendancy to swing back after reaching an extreme, much like a pendulum; but, like a pendulum, the first thing that happens is it swings to the opposite extreme. He just pointed out that things will swing from one extreme to the other. Maybe it will once again be mainstream for women to stay home and take care of the house, but it won't stay that way.
 
2004-07-18 04:37:00 PM  
Oops, my bad on the reaffirming your point thing. I was thinking of Calvin's post. That's what I get for going off on a rant.
 
2004-07-18 04:42:07 PM  
There are many ways to take care of a man that don't involve cooking dinner every night and scrubbing the toilet every Sunday. What if the couple doesn't have kids? Is the woman still supposed to stay home and take care of the house and greet her husband with a martini every night?

Would you?... because that would be nice and stuff after dealing with all that crap at work everyday...

Seriously, when children aren't involved I can't really see any point in the woman staying home all day while the man works. It's not that it couldn't be a very nice lifestyle for both people involved, but under our current financial conditions it would be impractical unless someone has a rediculously good job and earns a ton of cash...
 
2004-07-18 04:50:03 PM  
Would you?... because that would be nice and stuff after dealing with all that crap at work everyday...

Okay, why not? It's the least I can do after sucking them down all day myself.
 
2004-07-18 04:55:34 PM  
Okay, why not? It's the least I can do after sucking them down all day myself.

Hey, this is looking better and better... I'll buy the olives...

if you choose to be married put some effort & backing behind your man

And I thought Tammy Wynette was dead...
 
2004-07-18 04:56:11 PM  
Veee-

Noone is saying you Must do this or that. Certainly, everyone's situation is different. I would not suggest anyone stick to a regimented, staid belief system or routine. Nothing is ideal, either.

I can read quite well, thank you. Noone has suggested any situation or current trend will stay any way. I am mearly suggesting as a ring is circular, your marriage may be better served if one dedicated yourself to your partner.

This, in my opinion means acting like a woman as opposed to a man - Stay home & take care of him - If you don't have any kids, do whatever the fark you want .

Calvin is right, with regard to trends. I however have always had this mind set.
 
2004-07-18 05:04:11 PM  
Noone is saying you Must do this or that. Certainly, everyone's situation is different. I would not suggest anyone stick to a regimented, staid belief system or routine. Nothing is ideal, either.

Good, I was worried.

your marriage may be better served if one dedicated yourself to your partner.

That, I agree with. And it applies to both genders.
 
2004-07-18 05:11:32 PM  
your marriage may be better served if one dedicated yourself to your partner.

That, I agree with. And it applies to both genders.


Um. 'kay. I can agree with that to a degree... but isn't that in conflict with the concept of being a provider? Should I work hard and buck for a promotion, or should I condemn us to being downwardly-mobile by putting in the minimum effort I can at work so I can rush home to my partner? Overtime, or time with the bride?
 
2004-07-18 05:17:45 PM  
Hey - I picked him whatever it is he needs to do. His call.

That's why picking the right partner is so hard!!
 
2004-07-18 05:17:46 PM  
Calvin Hobbes

I don't think it has to be one or the other. You don't have to spend every minute of the day or night with your significant other, just as long as you do spend some time. And enjoy that time, and let her know she's special and loved (and that may be said simply by spending time with her, it doesn't have to be sappy or anything). She should do the same for you. You both have lives to live, but if you can't find time to spend with each other, why are you together at all?
 
2004-07-18 05:27:36 PM  
Veee

I'm with you there. I really am. The thing is to avoid unrealistic expectation of one's partner. If you are two people in the building and succeeding portion of your careers there is going to be less time to spend together. If you can be happy with a cuddle on the couch at the end of the day while we have a drink and watch something on the TV, that's awesome. Some can't. Trust me. I know. Try being dragged to a club on Friday at the end of a 65 hour work week when all you want to do is slip into a dry martini.
 
2004-07-18 05:33:24 PM  
Don't forget the bowl of pasta first. ; )
 
2004-07-18 05:38:08 PM  
Don't forget the bowl of pasta first. ; )

Ah yes, lest I forget. In fact, time for dinner.
 
2004-07-18 05:58:20 PM  
Sooo. How about that diamond!? Really small, huh?
 
2004-07-18 05:59:24 PM  
 
2004-07-18 06:08:31 PM  
RaoulDuke
i'm betting your girlfriend liked the fact that you designed it yourself, more so than the fact that you bought her a ring, maybe not but i know i would be
 
2004-07-18 06:18:45 PM  
Invictus5000

If i was to get a ring, i would much rather an emerald, or anything green. I wouldn't want a diamond, because i don't like them that much, their boring in my opinion
 
2004-07-18 06:26:57 PM  
Explain how a circular peice of metal and a freaking pebble symbolize love? I'd think there would be other, more interesting things you could symbolize love with.
 
2004-07-18 08:15:33 PM  
Antimatter

Explain how a circular peice of metal and a freaking pebble symbolize love? I'd think there would be other, more interesting things you could symbolize love with.

heres how:

It says to the female "I am well off and capable of earning large amounts of money and power. I am inclined to devote this money and power to the well being of you, the female, and your offspring, regardless of whether or not said offspring resemble me in any way."
remeber:
first you get the sugar
then you get the power
THEN you get the women.

No matter how much females whine and bleat otherwise, thats what it comes down to.
 
2004-07-18 09:10:09 PM  
what a waste of time.
 
2004-07-19 12:08:08 AM  
Who gives a fark about a damn ring??

It's not like I'd actually wear it in public!
 
2004-07-19 01:46:49 AM  
I guess this is the part where I mention selling a 50K MOUNTING to put all this in context? It was a custom design from a well-known designer in pink diamonds.

If it helps any, most ladies don't get it when guys want to buy motorcycles, vintage cars, tablesaws they won't use, stereo equipment, etc... My wife cracks up when she sees me in here looking at foosball tables or something I've decided is completely rational to buy.
 
2004-07-19 11:25:01 AM  
Supersize me!
 
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