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(CNN)   Martha Stewart compares herself to Nelson Mandela   (money.cnn.com) divider line 99
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2004-07-17 10:15:06 AM  
...well, they're both people, so I guess she has that going for her.
 
2004-07-17 11:12:20 AM  
And they are both....

Going to run for president and win?
 
2004-07-17 12:03:06 PM  
They both have a penis?
 
2004-07-17 12:17:31 PM  
Attica! Attica! Attica!
 
2004-07-17 12:51:33 PM  
"I didn't cheat the little people"

Martha, if any of my 401k's lost value because of your hijinks, then you cheated me.

Shut the fark up, biatch.
 
2004-07-17 01:57:14 PM  
Martha, like Mandela, should have never been sent to jail. Or arrested. Or charged for that matter. After that the similarities are pretty much superficial. There are thousands of people who have done much worse and have actually made a much more direct negative impact on the wealth of the little people. And that is just in government. The problem here is the government. Corporations are getting flack because they tried to hide a few million in debt and spending to look good for the stockholders. The government regularly hides billions in debt and spending through tricky accounting and they come off as the good guys that we must put in charge of protecting us from the corporations. While a corporation or a wealthy individual's first concern is with their own profit, they still have to have the cooperation of the public. They can't survive if we don't use their services. The government requires no such cooperation. Their cooperation is taken at the barrel of a gun. They demand the money and it is taken from us with little practical say in the matter. This whole fiasco of Enron, Martha Stewart, and the rest is little more than a witch hunt of small time white collar crooks so taht the government can look like they are getting "tough on crime" when the real criminals are holding elected and appointed public offices taking away our hard earned money and liberties in order to provide themselves with great power and wealth.
 
2004-07-17 02:02:54 PM  
The real reason she's getting jail time is that this type of crime is next to impossible to catch and/or prosecute. So they want to scare people into not doing it.
 
2004-07-17 03:23:28 PM  
"The real reason she's getting jail time is that this type of crime is next to impossible to catch and/or prosecute. So they want to scare people into not doing it."

DING!-DING!-DING! EatHam has it right on the money. I worked fairly close to some higher-ups for a couple of years in the oil industry, and the sort of thing she did happens all the time.
 
2004-07-17 03:29:53 PM  
You mean Martha Stewart is a commie terrorist?
 
2004-07-17 05:38:33 PM  
"...at her peak, Martha Stewart owned 60% of K-Mart, and 40% of her own soul."
/I love the 90s
 
2004-07-17 05:46:58 PM  
Mandela was an inspirational hero.

Martha made great sheets.

/See's no comparison.
 
2004-07-17 05:47:05 PM  
I'm sorry Martha, you are the weakest link. Goodbye!
 
2004-07-17 05:48:40 PM  
That article was not what I would call highly stimulating, from a sexual point of view.
 
2004-07-17 05:48:59 PM  
I don't get it. One is a thief and another one was a political prisoner.

/go figure
 
2004-07-17 05:49:14 PM  
I think she was trying to call me a little person! 5' 7" is not little!

I hate tall people.
 
2004-07-17 05:49:25 PM  
I'm glad that biatch is going to prison (if the appeal is thrown out)
 
2004-07-17 05:49:26 PM  
I compare her comments to another Nelson. Nelson Muntz.

(Somebody, please?)
 
2004-07-17 05:49:49 PM  
Mandela? No way. She's more like Moses. Or maybe Captain Kirk.

Seriously, she's really getting the shaft on this. The last thing the US needs is more people in jail. Give her a hefty fine and let's all just move on.
 
2004-07-17 05:51:08 PM  
isnt jealousy beautiful?

guess what, sure, martha is in jail, but the little people are still little.

what martha did wasnt even wrong! it was the only thing to do in her shoes! if someone told me that my investment was about to go south, and they knew what they were talking about, hell, id sell the stuff. who wouldnt!

the criminal here is the broker who gave out the illegal information.

Mandela is a hero, but of late he has been an asshat
 
2004-07-17 05:51:30 PM  
Stewart, like Boesky and Milken, is a Lion of Capitalism. Since we can find people who are comparatively worse, we can moral-relativist ourselves into a warm-wet-blanket sense of indignation b/c profit means moral high ground, no?

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2004-07-17 05:52:29 PM  
Martha did rip someone off: the poor sap who bought the stock just before it tanked. That individual lost money.
 
2004-07-17 05:52:33 PM  
Martha for President!

Just imagine how snappy the White House would look!
 
LH
2004-07-17 05:54:22 PM  
"isnt jealousy beautiful?

guess what, sure, martha is in jail, but the little people are still little.

what martha did wasnt even wrong! it was the only thing to do in her shoes! if someone told me that my investment was about to go south, and they knew what they were talking about, hell, id sell the stuff. who wouldnt!

the criminal here is the broker who gave out the illegal information.

Mandela is a hero, but of late he has been an asshat"

She was convicted of lying to investigators. Its been said if she came clean and didnt lie she probably would have never come close to a jail cell.
 
2004-07-17 05:56:14 PM  
she should get the chair!
 
2004-07-17 05:58:41 PM  
"what martha did wasnt even wrong! it was the only thing to do in her shoes! if someone told me that my investment was about to go south, and they knew what they were talking about, hell, id sell the stuff. who wouldnt!"

And here we have yet another example of not being able to grasp the concept of insider trading and how it is illegal. "Wrong" or not, this isn't an issue of morals; it is a legal issue and will be dealt with accordingly. Come on, people.
 
2004-07-17 05:59:45 PM  
She definetly needs to go to jail!! We need to hit the 3,000,000 people in prison mark as soon as possible, why not include the rich and famous?
 
2004-07-17 06:01:23 PM  
If the stock was about to tank, wouldn't the little people get farked anyway? Technically, it's more like "not getting farked along with the little people"
 
2004-07-17 06:01:47 PM  
In her defense, they are both racists.
 
2004-07-17 06:02:19 PM  
Shoulda had Johnny Cochran for defense......

"if the oven ain't lit, you must acquit!"

/really bad, goes back to sc
 
2004-07-17 06:04:04 PM  
Still the best part of the article:

"Stewart, in a pre-recorded interview aired Friday night on ABC's 20/20, was asked by Barbara Walters how she would cope with prison life, including strip searches, if she loses her appeal. I could do it," Stewart said. "I'm a really good camper. I can sleep on the ground.

Somehow I don't think it's going to be like camp sweetheart.
 
2004-07-17 06:04:48 PM  
I'm happy Martha is going to serve time for her crime. I know lots of people are all "boo hoo... there are worse people then her!"... but screw that. If you lie, you deserve the punishment for such an action. Let's look at it another way.

If YOU were in court... and I was on the stand. If I lied about what really happened and YOU were the one who was going to take the blame for the crime... don't you think that is wrong? Don't you think it's more important to tell the truth then to LIE to save your own skin?

Yes... I realize that there are LOTS of people who have done things that are FAR worse then this who don't end up serving jail time. But most of them DON'T GET CAUGHT!

She tried to make a mockery of our courts by lieing to try and save her own ass... and she thought, "They won't punish me, I'm Martha Stewart". The woman is a fake and a liar and as far as I'm concerned, she got what she deserved. Now let's just hope that other people who do similar things get exactly what they deserve too.
 
2004-07-17 06:06:22 PM  
"Martha did rip someone off: the poor sap who bought the stock just before it tanked. That individual lost money."

The stock would have tanked regardless of what Martha did and the poor sap would have lost money regardless. In fact, by selling, Martha may have caused the price to decrease a small bit (by the laws of supply and demand) and therefore may have prevented that poor sap from paying as much for his stock before it tanked.
 
2004-07-17 06:07:00 PM  
priest, martha didnt cause the stock to fail, buddy
in fact, that person who bought the stock just before it tanked would be ahead handily if he held on to it and sold it today.

but that doesnt fit with your hollywood villian view of the world, 'eh?
 
2004-07-17 06:07:31 PM  
"many, many good people have gone to prison."

This isn't one of 'em.

And is that celulite on her face? WTF?
 
2004-07-17 06:09:57 PM  
I hope she gets her nose broken on some bull dyke's pubic bone.
 
2004-07-17 06:10:19 PM  
not a fan, but i think her demented mind was trying to say that people have served a lot longer than 5 months and she'll be ok.
that said, she ain't no mandela, not even a winnie.
 
2004-07-17 06:11:04 PM  
I can compare Martha Stewart to Nelson Mandela. Here goes: Nelson Mandela was a wrongfully imprisoned hero. Martha Stewart, on the other hand, is a total biatch criminal.
 
2004-07-17 06:11:50 PM  
 
2004-07-17 06:13:03 PM  
lh, she was convicted of a crime because she is a criminal, that much is correct.

funny how some people go on to great richness after lying to investigators and courts.

dont kid yourself, if Martha was not who she was, she would have been treated differently.

Our system should be a fair one. What you did should determine punishment, not who you are.

She deserved a fine. She is going to prison. That is not acceptable, though the MTV crowd loves it.
 
2004-07-17 06:46:55 PM  
As other people have said, the main issue is the fact that she lied. She was dishonest, she deserves jail, and the fact that there are worse is irrelevant. That's like not sending a guy who kills one person to jail, because hey there are mass murderers out there! Reading that article, I wanted to vomit every time she made some self-pitying comment. Or some testament to her own strength.

Martha Stewart is a little person? Yeah, ethically...
 
2004-07-17 06:49:03 PM  
[Attica! Attica! Attica!]

That pretty much killed the thread for me....
 
2004-07-17 06:57:38 PM  


Ohhh dear me, poor poor Martha we love you so much.

Fear not, despite the persecution of the jealous lower classes you're still such a hero to all us white collar criminals, we know that the only reason you are in the can is because those dreadful lower class plebs refuse to accept the obvious and just truth that the law is meant to control them and is not supposed to apply to their betters.

Look on the bright side, when released you will make a fortune from interviews, books and speaking engagements, we won't let a great American hero like you suffer for too long.

Those of us who really matter pity you almost as much as you pity yourself.

God bless my money err, I mean America.
 
2004-07-17 07:00:04 PM  
Note also that she isn't even being tried for lying in court (what Bill Clinton did), but making a couple of false statements to investigators not lying under oath in a trial. Still wrong, it wastes government resources, but it deserves only a fine and (maybe) some house arrest, not 5 months in jail.
 
2004-07-17 07:01:39 PM  
The only similarity I can think of is that they both really ****ing old.
 
2004-07-17 07:09:36 PM  
thyocyan

I hate tall people.

I'm 6'6" now STFU before I pound you farther into the ground with my penis !
 
2004-07-17 07:14:13 PM  
I'm 6'4.

this reminds me of the lyric 'short people ain't got no reason to live'
 
2004-07-17 07:17:56 PM  
The presiding judge fined her $30,000. Comparatively speaking, that's about the cost of a month's Netflix membership in my household.

Ah, well. It's not as though this hasn't happened before or will never happen again.
 
2004-07-17 07:24:01 PM  
Martha Stewart should be put in blackface and treated to a little apartheid.
 
2004-07-17 07:41:11 PM  
She didn't compare herself directly to Manedela, I saw the interview, it was just the first thing that popped into her head about someone who had went to prison and came out a better person. You could see her mind racing to come up with someone.
 
2004-07-17 07:46:34 PM  
he read magazines in prison, she'll be writing them?

/hoping to be quoted in CBS marketplace
 
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