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2004-07-15 12:28:23 PM  
That was a kinda confusing article to read, probably because i'm not the law type. Someone tell me if i have this right: These people decided not to buy any more tickets and, therefore, forfeited their "Charter Ownership Agreements" (purchased for $150) and now The Bengals are still trying to hold them to these things that were "practically contracts" and threatening them with suing and stuff. Were they REALLY legal contracts or not? Seems like that would be the issue. thoughts?
2004-07-15 12:47:16 PM  
sue dey? sue dey?! sue dey think gonna beat dem bengals?
2004-07-15 02:03:28 PM  
Because once you've extorted a $300 million stadium from a city, you can't just stop there. You have to create as much ill will as humanly possible.

It's only a matter of time before Mike Brown's negative gravitational pull seeps into Marvin Lewis' psyche and the next decade of losing begins.
2004-07-15 02:41:29 PM  
I didn't think the Bengals were still teh suck.
2004-07-15 03:39:33 PM  
Chad Johnson is unstoppable at WR.. ask him, he'll tell you so. He's the best thing they have in Cincy.. Warrick is okay too.. we'll see how ole boy pans out as the main appointed starting RB this year.

Thanks for giving us Dillon and another Superbowl.

2004-07-15 05:27:53 PM  
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2004-07-15 05:34:17 PM  
This year nothing can stop the Chargers from being #1

on the draft choice list.
2004-07-15 07:01:56 PM  
10 bucks says the girl in the fark personals ad eats it.

/Caddy Shack
2004-07-15 07:03:32 PM  
knowing how bad the Bengals are, they will end up losing this one too, GO LIONS
2004-07-15 07:06:14 PM  
Ha ha ha! Download all the free music you want. Your favorite bands, their producers, their songwriters and publishers and their record companies are merely greedy. But athletes are gods here--and they better get their money and a pound of flesh!
2004-07-15 07:07:04 PM  
Note to headline submitter: sit and spin.

Note to other Bengals haters: see your team on the field.

2004-07-15 07:08:29 PM  
I don't specifically recall, but I think the club seat agreement was a contract for a specific number of years. They determined how many club seats went in based on those agreements. A judge ruled in the Bengals favor on this already. If someone commits to buy tickets and gets preferential seating because of it, I'm pretty sure the Bengals can go ahead and enforce that.

The other part looks like they're just trying to contact the existing seat holders before they re-sell the tickets. That also seems reasonable.

I don't understand why people that hate the Bengals so much would have ponied up top dollar to see them play.
2004-07-15 07:08:29 PM  
10 bucks says the girl in the fark personals ad eats it.

That's a girl?
2004-07-15 07:08:35 PM  
Kickboxing guy that also sucks

Most of you have probably seen it, but it's still hilarious.
2004-07-15 07:12:00 PM  
Lace Valentine

Ha ha ha! Download all the free music you want. Your favorite bands, their producers, their songwriters and publishers and their record companies are merely greedy. But athletes are gods here--and they better get their money and a pound of flesh!

Ummm if you "subscribe" to Columbia house and don't buy all the CD's you agreed to, they send your ass to collections, just like the Bengals. By the way, the Bengals aren't suing me, because I wasn't dumb enough to eneter into an agreement I couldn't live up to.
2004-07-15 07:21:20 PM  
Dano33, HAHAHA! I kept thinking that everytime I stopped back in at the page.

bpsmyth, did they agree to buy a certain number of tickets when they entered the COA? It sounds like the Bengals just let people out of them before which seems to have set a bad precedent on their part. Still, the article is pretty confusing.
2004-07-15 07:23:07 PM  

Outstanding,outstanding. Get you a case of beer for that.

2004-07-15 07:26:37 PM  
Most of you have probably seen it, but it's still hilarious. - you_are_wrong

Maybe a touch of irony or a "you shoulda listened to your mother" smirk, but hilarious? Dude, how many puppies have you strangled this week?
2004-07-15 07:26:53 PM  
bah, rtfa. these people agreed to purchase very expensive suites, not just your normal folding seat. They're not being told to pay $60k, they're basically being given a little jolt to say "Hey, are you gonna use those or can we sell them to someone else?"

2004-07-15 07:29:46 PM  
Corey Dillon going to the Pats means I'm going to win my fantasy league this year.

As for the rest of the people stuck on the Bengals, well, it must suck to be only the third best football team in Ohio.
2004-07-15 07:38:57 PM  
you_are_wrong, you made me lose my dinner. Thanks a bunch, sicko.
2004-07-15 07:39:36 PM  
Last time I checked, the Bengals were one game away from the playoffs last year. What'd your team do? Half the teams went home early last year. My Redskins... ugh, don't remind me. Yeah, so the Bengals are in playoff contention. Stop making fun of them.
2004-07-15 07:40:50 PM  
hahahaha, and i thought the chargers sucked ass!!!!
2004-07-15 07:44:08 PM  
Ravens rule the AFC north...Bengals are still teh sux0r
2004-07-15 07:45:57 PM  
Bonanza Jellybean

You're quite welcome.
2004-07-15 07:46:25 PM  
The Bengals remind me of one of the craps I take when the turds float and won't go down on the first flush because some of it keeps coming back thru the hole. So, I have to stand there and keep flushing three and four times because I don't won't the next person who uses the toilet to view my floating turds and get completely grossed out.

Bengals' problems just keep coming back up. I wish they would just go away. Embarrassing.

I hate floating turds.
2004-07-15 07:52:50 PM  
Dude, how many puppies have you strangled this week?

What's with the personal attacks? If it were a puppy (or any animal for that matter) getting hurt, it would have been terrible. When it's an assclown kickboxer getting hurt, it's funny. There, I said it.
2004-07-15 08:00:31 PM  
You also must see Coupon: The Movie.

It's so good, it's mandatory!
2004-07-15 08:01:13 PM  
I have it on good authority that Chad Johnson has guaranteed at least a playoff berth for the Bengals this year.
2004-07-15 08:11:45 PM  

You give them WAAAAAY to much credit. I bet there are highschool teams in Ohio that could beat them.
2004-07-15 08:14:27 PM  
Stupid article. It doesn't explain why the teams demands are valid. It also needs proofreading.
2004-07-15 08:18:32 PM  
Ravens will win the division again, sorry Bengals.
2004-07-15 08:28:05 PM  

Good thing I'm not the only one who thought of that.

2004-07-15 08:29:00 PM  
...that headline was SO last year

8-8 and late contention for the first time in 10 years is hardly sucking
2004-07-15 08:32:49 PM  
Public money for sports stadiums is BULLSHIAT!!!!! see Jack Murphy stadium in San Diego (or Quallcomm) or whatever the fark it is now. And people wonder why taxes are so high with public money going to asshattery like this stadium. I know this will be a strech for some, but a lot of people could give a rats ass about football, baseball or any sport played by a bunch of overpaid whiners. I love here in L.A. all the people who proclaim there love for the raiders and have not quite figured out the team said "screw you" and went back to Oakland. If they are going to spend 300 million on something, how about bike trails?

And I do not even have a bike
2004-07-15 08:33:49 PM  
Quiz time everyone!
Q: What is the term least likely to be heard at a football game?

2004-07-15 08:39:09 PM  
You guys make me howl. The Bengals are an improved team, but I'm not so sure they're gonna do it again. Ravens, good luck without Jamal Lewis. Yeah, you won a ring a few year ago. Get 3 more then we'll talk. For the last 10 years, the divison has belonged to the 'burgh.
2004-07-15 08:44:37 PM  
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't this basic conversation happen a few years back in Seattle....

Paul Allan: "Hey, why don't you guys help me build a stadium?"
Seattle: "Screw You"
Allan: "Okay, I have enough money, I'll build it myself, and keep all the revenues from it, and just pay my property taxes"
Seattle: "Did we say 'screw you', we meant 'We have some money for you'"

I'm against public funds used to build stadiums too, but obviously there's alot of $$ to be made, or they wouldn't do it. I think states should sell special license plates for various pro teams with the $$ going to build the stadiums, instead of charging non-fans $.01, or whatever it comes out being.
2004-07-15 08:45:05 PM  
Jet Central
So you've discovered my secret ingredient for super fluffy omeletes - helium.
2004-07-15 08:49:23 PM  
The Bengals will make the playoffs this year, and will win the Super Bowl before 2010.
2004-07-15 08:49:57 PM  
That reminds me....I'll keep it Bengals related

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ESPN 2k5 July 20... must have for Xbox (and PS2)

Early screenshot, too..
2004-07-15 09:03:29 PM  
Right after Foxboro falls into the sea

-Go Pats
2004-07-15 09:06:06 PM  
Thanks for Dillon
2004-07-15 09:06:45 PM  

License plates sound like a good idea but let us not forget that even .01 times millions of people comes out to a big chunk of change that could certainly be used for something that benifits everyone. Not just a venue that sells beer for $6.00 a pop after buying an overpriced ticket to pay some ludicris (SP?) salary to the players and makes millions for the owners.
2004-07-15 09:16:07 PM  

You guys make me howl. The Bengals are an improved team, but I'm not so sure they're gonna do it again. Ravens, good luck without Jamal Lewis. Yeah, you won a ring a few year ago. Get 3 more then we'll talk. For the last 10 years, the divison has belonged to the 'burgh.

True, true, but Cowher's turning into nothing more than Marty Schottenheimer with a Super Bowl loss.
2004-07-15 09:17:51 PM  
How many games will it take for Palmer to play like a professional-quality quarterback? I know you have to play him since he's being paid so much, but I think Kitna gives them a better chance this year.
2004-07-15 09:25:27 PM  
Dang, The Washington Redskins have the largest stadium in the NFL with 85,000 seats and a 15 year waiting list to get tickets.
2004-07-15 09:43:02 PM  
Jamal lewis will play this year...

Last I heard, it wasn't a crime to NOT do a drug deal.
2004-07-15 09:45:18 PM  
Rivet Boy, I understand what you're saying. But, the license plate thing would free up public money for other things. I'm not sure how much $$ from each plate goes to these funds (wildlife, universities, etc...), but in a major area, like say, New York it might not amount to much. But, in an area like Green Bay the stadium would be paid for 10 times over. This way too, the people that use the stadium, would be the ones paying for it instead of the ones that don't.

NotoriousW.O.P. You got that right. As much as I LOVE my Steelers, if he doesn't AT LEAST get to the SB this year, I think he's gone.
2004-07-15 10:08:32 PM  
If that dumbass ex-NBA player (forget the name, Jason Williams?) can get away with MURDER, there's no way Jamal is going to jail. And as long as he's not found guilty, the NFL won't punish him whatsoever. Can't stop the J-Train!
2004-07-15 10:23:21 PM  
fark you drew- watch n see how carson, rudy , AND chris perry smash the league this'll be on their nuts soon enough, biatch-ass motherfarker
2004-07-15 10:27:47 PM  
Wow, surprised at all the hate for the Bengals in here. For the uninformed, the Bengals finished 8-8 last year under new coach Marvin Lewis after going 2-14 the year before and after starting the season 1-4. And yes, they were in playoff contention until the final week of the season, and yes, they were (and look to remain) considerably better than the Steelers and Browns.

They may not be ready of the Super Bowl, but they have a solid shot at the playoffs and are a hell of a lot more fun to watch. In one season, Coach Marvin totally changed the attitude of the team and fans, and there's something to be said for that.

2004-07-15 10:31:45 PM  

How nice to have a discourse of ideas on Fark with you and not have it turn into a flamewar.

/You Da man
2004-07-15 10:42:22 PM  
They were in the playoff hunt last year.


They Bengals will be good again this year.
2004-07-15 10:46:50 PM  
Yeah, I live in Cincinnati, and I think this is utter bull. The Bengals are a joke, and I feel that using public funds to pay for such a thing is ludicrous. Why should I have to pay taxes as a citizen to pay for a stadium for a losing team that no one likes and that I have no interest in seeing. I'm not a football fan, even if they were champions I still wouldn't see them.

Now, what I think needs to happen is, since public funds where used to pay for the stadium, it should be open to the public. If public funds are used for a swimming pool, isn't it open to the public? In the off season, I should be able to go down to Paul Brown Stadium, use the locker room with my buddies and go play a game of football on the field.
2004-07-15 10:46:55 PM  
Rivet Boy, we're both saying basically the same thing.
2004-07-15 11:32:11 PM  
iron_city_ap: I'm against public funds used to build stadiums too, but obviously there's alot of $$ to be made, or they wouldn't do it.

Yeah, sounds nice, except it's not working that way. The local sales tax was raised a half percent and was supposed to expire in 20 years, but the stadiums were way over estimates - to the tune of $400 million. So now we're looking at 35 years to pay off the stadiums at least, and this year the tax revenue isn't going to be enough to service the year's portion of the debt. Hell, I doubt the stadiums will still even be standing in 35 years.

No one's said the B-word yet, but you know what happens when someone can't pay what they owe.
2004-07-15 11:50:58 PM  
You forgot about the best part of the new ESPN NFL Football game: it only costs $20.

Madden what?
2004-07-16 12:50:21 AM  
Big Ern, I feel for you. You'd think that the city wouldn't have walked into the deal if they thought that the stadium would have turned a net loss from both direct (stadium revenue) and indrect (hotels, restraunts, parking, etc...) income. If they did, then you need to vote some mofo's out of office. Just so I make myself clear here, I'm a BIG sports fan, but I think there needs to be some sort of volentary(sp) setup to help ease if not erase the tax burden put on non-fans who will never use the site.
2004-07-16 12:56:41 AM  
Heh, sounds like what the RIAA does to its "music" (if you could call it that) customers.
2004-07-16 03:41:48 AM  

Ha, how could I have forgotten? Can't beat $20. It will be in my mailbox on the 20th.

You on Xbox Live?
2004-07-16 09:03:29 AM  
Ok, so let me get this straight from the article:

People paid $150 for the right to be able to buy season ticket seats, if they so desired. There was no requirement to buy X-number of seats.

If they didn't buy the tickets within a prescribed time-period, they forfietted the right to the tickets, and the stadium could sell them to other interested parties.

They are now threatening collections and legal action against people who chose to exercize their right to not by the seats for whatever reason.

Am I missing something here?

sounds like the 'Chewbacca Defense' to me.
2004-07-16 09:08:30 AM  
Countdown to Corey "The Albatross" Dillon injury:

3 months, 2 days

Hope you Patsy fans enjoy him.

2004-07-16 10:14:58 AM  
To all the people bummed about the public funds used to build the stadiums in cincinnati, didn't hamilton county have a vote on that exact issue, to use public money or not?

The majority voted for it if I remember correctly.
2004-07-16 10:17:14 AM  
Don't ever trust what you read in the Cincinnati Enquirer. Their articles do nothing but try to cause an uproar. They have their easy targets to: Bengals, Cincinnati Police Officers, etc.

I recall the Enquirer after that 400 lb. guy died while resisting arrest in the White Castle. The giant headline basically tried to entice the black community to riot again, while even the black community was like, "the police did nothing wrong."

Causing controversy sells papers in Cincinnati. What they fail to tell you is that those who bought the seat licenses promised to buy tickets for a certain number of years. So when Bengals collection keeps ringing your phone and knocking on your door and you refuse to answer, it's time to use drastic measures: scare them with a number like $60,000 and maybe they'll talk to you.

In any case, Patriots Fan - take Dillon. Please! He's such a cancer. Wait until he starts biatching that Tom Brady is throwing too much and not giving him the ball enough. Or wait until he gets hurt. In 5... 4... 3... 2...

ESPN 2K5 is going to rock. I encourage everyone to skip Madden this year and get ESPN. WAAAAAAY better game.

Bengals will win 10 games this year and make the playoffs. Mark my words. The NFL North sucks too bad for them not to dominate.
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