This should be a PSA: "Don't litter, stay in school, and damn the registration sites to the abyss, mkay?"

Why are there still links to the Knight-Ridder sites (philly.com, etc)? I thought those were automatically rejected.

Yeah I farking hate news sites that required reg.

The author of this article is doing his news searches wrong, that's why the NYT didn't come up near the top of his searches.
If you want to search for news on the web, you don't search google.com, you search news.google.com
You'd think a Wired reporter would know that.
And, when you link from news.google.com to a NYT article, it does not ask you to register.
So, I guess this shows that Fark users are more savvy than Wired reporters, but I think we all knew that.

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damn fiona beat me to it.

The author of this article is doing his news searches wrong, that's why the NYT didn't come up near the top of his searches.
If you want to search for news on the web, you don't search google.com, you search news.google.com
You'd think a Wired reporter would know that.
And, when you link from news.google.com to a NYT article, it does not ask you to register.
So, I guess this shows that Fark users are more savvy than Wired reporters, but I think we all knew that.

That's not the point. The point is that nobody links to NYT articles, because of the problem with registration. SMH.com.au at least has a decent model, tricking people into registration half of the time, which has fooled Fark many times into greenlighting.

If I want to link to a story from a registration site, I search for the story in Google News and get a different story. Or if it's unique, I query for the NYT story in Google News and give out the link for the Google search query.

BTW, Google News is, indeed, your God!

what the?

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That would require 30 seconds that I don't care to waste. If you're going to force me to register, then the story probably wasn't that interesting, anyway.

So so so true.

I'm all over Google News and Yahoo News, and I could really give a phuck what the NY times has to say. Every so often they or the LA Times has an article I can't get to, but if I type keywords from the search results into Google, I can get the article elsewhere.

Frankly, I think these people have a lot of balls charging for old information. They should put it out there for free private/academic use, and just put "Brought to you by Pepsi" in the article. That's it.

Sorry to the Wired writer, but NY Times is already irrelevant, and they were as soon as they required registration.

NY Times in the new Salon.com

Bub-eye

Headlines that are above 3 lines long make farkers confused.

i signed up with NYT because I get to read the NYT for free. maureen dowd alone is worth the trouble (would like to see a catfight between her and ann coulter).

the rest aren't worth bothering with. worst is salon.com that wants you to watch a commercial to see the fricking article.

Hearing rumours bomb in power station in Madrid.....
Probably just fire accident....
Police not confirming anything yet...

That whole article is mostly horse sh;t -- some nerd punk second-guessing companies with million-dollar marketing budgets and life-time marketing pros, just to make a story.

The Google bot has registration with most news sites. You can see it if you do a search under Google News. You get previews to articles you can't reach without a registration.

The affect this has is to tease people with content so that they will register and/or pay for it. Coordinating your registration-only news engine with the Google search intelligence is good idea for news sites.

If you do a search for anything on Google, News or not, and you don't get a certain page that you know is relevant, it's because of Google's latest leveraging to make money. Google doesn't publish this, but when companies pay for placement and sidebar ads, it supresses other relevant content. If some newspaper has an affilitation with Google, the others will be supressed no matter what the content.

It's a science, not some random coincidence. It's intentional. And it's ingenius, in my opinion.

Na looks like fire...sorry bout that power disrupted on stock exchange got traders spooked

Maybe these companies that require registration do it because they don't want people linking to their articles. Something on fark can get tens of thousands of clicks, which is hell on the servers.

Yup, and any forum that requires me to register before I can post and go...

uh, wait a minute...

This is why American journalist and news organizations suck. They have forgotten that the reason why they even exist in the first place is to bring news to the people. The BBC offers all of its content, old and new, free to all that care to look for it. I read that they were even attempting to archive all of their old BBC radio programming on the web. American news organizations need to stop chasing the dollar, and actually get back to informing their readers/viewers of real, unbiased news.

"The Web isn't just a sales outlet, it's much more akin to a vast public library," said Aaron Swartz, who coded the Times' link generator, which enables bloggers to get around the Times' paid archive by transforming temporary article links into permanent ones . Good deal. This guy has the right idea.

The BBC offers all of its content, old and new, free to all that care to look for it.

Because it makes its money from the license fee, not from copy sales.

pmegan, I would imagine most sites want the traffic, if you are a news site (newspaper, TV, radio, whatever news organization) you want to have the people clicking on your site.
Of course there is the issue of deep-linking but most sites still should be wanting the traffic.

Hahahaha, now I know how compete with you guys for headlines. Many a time I have heard a story on my local news station and cannot find it anywhere. Now, I know the secret! *grin*

And my experience has been the opposite of the headline, my local paper wants you to be registered to see most stories while the news sites are reg free. But I did notice when the local news had a headline that I really didn't expect to see (Bush Lay), and I tried submitting it, the story got taken down right away on the news site. Damn you, WFSB you're probably the reason my stories don't have a chance to get greenlighted!!

off topic
why is the fark personal picking his/her nose ?

google bombing?

/I got nothin'

I second the motion on BugMeNot -- I use it in
Mozilla, and it gets past all the registrations
like a charm.

Neo_freff

"actually get back to informing their readers/viewers of real, unbiased news"

Unlikely, "real, unbiased news" doesn't sell papers or content. Also, so many young journalists get into the business because they want to "change the world" (Based on REAL conversations with journalism students.) and editors feel it's their job to "change the world".

The "mass media" is becoming less and less relevant.

Kiss my ass, Star Tribune!

I don't understand how they come up with those neilson numbers. I dont know -anyone- that ever looks at the newyork news site..

cnn, msnbc. foxnews. .. looks free to me

blah. why should we register and *gasp* pay for their ads & propaganda?

"This is why American journalist and news organizations suck. They have forgotten that the reason why they even exist in the first place is to bring news to the people. The BBC offers all of its content, old and new, free to all that care to look for it. I read that they were even attempting to archive all of their old BBC radio programming on the web. American news organizations need to stop chasing the dollar, and actually get back to informing their readers/viewers of real, unbiased news."

Too bad the only American news outlet that can afford to ignore financial competition and focus on public service is NPR... they archive everything they produce on their site and it's free to access without registration.

Why would you want to read the NYT when you can get all the news that is really important from Fark.com?

Can this guy even read newspapers with his eyes closed like that?

Heads up--the Toronto Star will also be implementing registration soon.

The opt-out policy regarding telemarketing and e-mail spam does not give me warm fuzzies. Neither does the "2-4 weeks" for processing.

I think I will need to find a new Toronto news site.

"This is why American journalist and news organizations suck. They have forgotten that the reason why they even exist in the first place is to bring news to the people. The BBC offers all of its content, old and new, free to all that care to look for it. I read that they were even attempting to archive all of their old BBC radio programming on the web. American news organizations need to stop chasing the dollar, and actually get back to informing their readers/viewers of real, unbiased news."


Hey the English do it, too--don' hold them too highly. www.thetimes.co.uk requires you to register to read older news stories.

People get their news from newspapers instead of Fark?

Speaking of Google obscurity: has anyone noticed before when you did a Google search for something in the Fark threads, you would get results from years back?

Now, you only get results from the last 9 months or so. It really sucks.

Anybody know what's up with that????

The Washington Post also forces you to register. I've done it four of five times and each time it does not remember my info and I have to do it again. Finally I said fark them.

Let's see, CNN, FOXNews, Rueters, BBC, NPR MSNBC and Yahoo news is free of registrationa and has more hits that the NY Times, yet they can't see any reason to give away thier content. Let me help you out on that one: ADVERTISING. You get more hits, you make more banners, you advertise other peoples crap for profit. Who knew?

Thank you, Mr. Obvious.

Eat it, LA Times & NY Times.

You look at the ads?

Google's text ads are the only ones I see. When I go to pages with graphics ads, my browser doesn't even fetch them. If you're wasting your time and bandwidth letting the damned ad pictures or banner load, you deserve to register.

Lately, I've been actually filling out thier registertion forms, but I make up stuff, like I'm a woman born in 1901 who is the CEO of a company that has 10,000 employees and makes less than $10,000 a year. Then I put a fake e-mail address and sign up for every single offer they have listed.

/takes a lot of time, but meh

That's kind of funny. Yesterday I sent an email to some news site that said it was going to start requiring registration and explained the issue to them.

Oh well. Bye-bye news site.

Fiona_Applet
bubbaprog
medic8ed

Jesus Fecking Christ, don't you farking idiots know that the first rule of bugmenot is don't talk about bugmenot on sites that can be bugmenot'd?

Thanks to brainless twits and stupid dimwits like you, yes you BMN logins no longer work here and at a number of other popular message boards.

What a bunch of loudmouthed maroons!

Who in the world would want to BMN a FARK registration?