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(Reuters)   University backs down, agrees to let blind student command his guide dog in French. Votre chien veut le bifteck   (reuters.com) divider line 125
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2004-07-08 10:56:06 AM
Good one, submitter.
 
2004-07-08 11:00:10 AM
Best headline evar
 
2004-07-08 11:03:33 AM
Good, 'cause that was stupid.
 
2004-07-08 11:04:42 AM
So what was the whole issue with them trying to expel the kid over the dog? were they jealous that the dog was smarter than them for being able to understand multiple languages?

if a headline ever deserved the "asinine" tag, this one is it.
 
2004-07-08 11:04:44 AM
Now, if only people down here in Florida spoke english...
 
2004-07-08 11:05:57 AM
If I ever get another dog, I'm considering teaching it commands in German, just to screw with everyone else.
 
2004-07-08 11:06:17 AM
French Dogs don't shower or shave their pits.
 
2004-07-08 11:06:43 AM
Le woof woof !
 
2004-07-08 11:08:04 AM
Does a French guide dog make you walk backwards?
 
2004-07-08 11:08:46 AM
How stupid was that.
 
2004-07-08 11:09:08 AM
I know someone who has a dog that understands commands in English, German, and sign language. Damn dog's smarter than I am!
 
2004-07-08 11:09:10 AM
Mmmm... bifteck
 
2004-07-08 11:10:05 AM
i can't believe they even thought they could get away with it originally
 
2004-07-08 11:10:30 AM
Well played, submitter.
 
2004-07-08 11:10:47 AM
0v3rki11

The issue was that he's enrolled on a "total immersion" English course, where the participants aren't allowed to speak anything but English at any time
 
2004-07-08 11:10:57 AM
Why couldn't they teach the dog English too?
 
2004-07-08 11:11:39 AM
from the article: "the guy is French"

isn't the guy Canadian?
 
2004-07-08 11:11:42 AM
Dein Hund will Steak.
 
2004-07-08 11:13:33 AM
feel_the_burn

I live in Quebec, where most people are Francophone. Just because you are Canadian doesn't mean you speak English.

We are officially a bilingual country.
 
2004-07-08 11:13:35 AM
Les Canadiens ne manquent jamais de me stupfier avec leur vers l'arrire pense. Ceci sert seulement prouver que, comme le Franais, ils sont toujours bons pour un rire. Pourquoi est-ce que j'ai lu l'article foutu?
 
2004-07-08 11:14:02 AM
hats off to submitter... viva le bifteck!
 
2004-07-08 11:14:34 AM
a4dzac
Does a French guide dog make you walk backwards?

No, but it does carry a small white flag.
 
2004-07-08 11:14:55 AM
lol Marbles
 
2004-07-08 11:15:08 AM
Stupid cheese eating surrender monkey fleabag!!
Speak English or die!!!
WTF is "biftek" anyway?? Sounds kinda left wing to me.....
 
2004-07-08 11:15:24 AM
feel_the-burn: There are french people in Canada you know. Quebec is full of 'em.

There is no way that UNB could have gotten away with this. New Brunswick is the only "officially" bilingual province in Canada. No way the government would have put up with this if the guy would have had to push it that far.
 
2004-07-08 11:15:41 AM
Tabarnak!
 
2004-07-08 11:15:46 AM
Mishka, that was the feel_the_burn's point (I think). They should have said the guy was a francophone or a french speaker since he is Canadian, not French.

(If I am misunderstanding, I apologize)
 
2004-07-08 11:16:14 AM
mon intention n'tait pas d'inciter des personnes rire dehors fort
 
2004-07-08 11:16:46 AM
Pourquoi est-ce que j'ai lu l'article foutu?

If you don't know why, then how can we tell you?! ;-)
 
2004-07-08 11:16:50 AM
*Tips hat to submitter*
*Laughs hysterically at school for making themselves look stupid*
 
2004-07-08 11:17:26 AM
"The Canadians never lack of me stupfier with them towards the arrire thinks. This serves only to prove that, as the Franais, they always are good for a laugh. Why did I read the screwed-up item?"


\free website "translation" of Marbles12078's post
 
2004-07-08 11:18:01 AM
in greece it's bisteka(only with crazy klingon letters)
 
2004-07-08 11:18:37 AM
pourquoi est-ce que je signalisation suis en franais? je puis peine parler le traducteur anglais de google de cogently. sacrment faisant ma signalisation semble topique et plein d'esprit!

/gn me
 
2004-07-08 11:18:52 AM
Smed:

feel_the_burn actually said...

from the article: "the guy is French"

isn't the guy Canadian?

Implying he thinks there are no French Canadians, unless I don't understand English properly, which I think I do;)
 
2004-07-08 11:19:36 AM
Hey Marbles...va te Fouer!
 
2004-07-08 11:21:08 AM
Red_Fox:

FRENCH PEOPLE IN CANADA?
and over seventy percent of our borders to the north unmanned....

oh my god, the FALLS
 
2004-07-08 11:22:01 AM
Marbles12078
Cogently? I know Google has like a zillion things going for it, but ... wow!

/unless, of course, you really do speak French, which I don't...
 
2004-07-08 11:22:33 AM
Suffra: That is if you can call Quebec Canada!
 
2004-07-08 11:22:45 AM
I don't know if you've seen the guy on TV, but he was speaking English fluently already, kind of negating the point of English Immersion.

If you want English Immersion just come to Montreal...
West Island is all Anglo;)
 
aba
2004-07-08 11:22:53 AM
It'd actually be

Votre chien veut un bifteck
 
2004-07-08 11:23:58 AM
The translator on Google doesn't work very well. Marbles is obviously using it because his grammar is FUBAR. C'est meme ca ou il ne sait pas comment parlez le fracais.
 
2004-07-08 11:23:59 AM
lol aba
 
2004-07-08 11:24:19 AM
i speak no french, nor do I understand it... google translates one directionally... if you try to translate back, it doesn't recognize its own translation and you get really odd phrases...

/astonished at the obvious lack of work today that allows me to do this.
 
2004-07-08 11:24:33 AM
FARKing intolerance still won't let me into restaurants with my smelling-nose giraffe.
 
2004-07-08 11:24:52 AM
I always have to say one thing about Canada, and this isn't true of being an American traveling anywhere in the world...

I have always been treated with the utmost respect and friendliness from francofone and Anglofone alike in Montreal...

and god bless leniant drug laws
 
2004-07-08 11:25:21 AM
And I thought only the Quebec language Gestapo got this pissy over linguistic issues.

Good job, UNB, for proving that anglophone authorities can be just as irrational as francophone authorities.
 
2004-07-08 11:26:37 AM
Brockway
FARKing intolerance still won't let me into restaurants with my smelling-nose giraffe.

IMHO, that wins the thread...
 
2004-07-08 11:27:58 AM
Anyone who wants to smoke up in public with friends just go to the park at Mont Royal in Montreal any Sunday in the summer for the tam tams... it's filled with cops but they're really cool about it, people play the tam tams, hot people dance to them, other people gawk, it's actually tres cool.
 
2004-07-08 11:28:36 AM
My grandfather spoke to his dog in german. I think most dogs understand it better then english for some reason.
 
2004-07-08 11:29:21 AM
English is a Germanic language, it makes sense
 
2004-07-08 11:31:08 AM
Mishka: You're right about Mont Royal! What a fun place to be on a weekend. Those tam tam people are just a buncha crazy hippies really.
 
2004-07-08 11:32:19 AM
My grandfather spoke to his dog in german. I think most dogs understand it better then english for some reason.

English is a Germanic language, it makes sense


Weird though, since I find German pretty cumbersome at times. "Lie down!" literally means "Leg dich hin!". Und so weiter...
 
2004-07-08 11:33:21 AM
Why does the guid dog hate America?
 
2004-07-08 11:33:32 AM
Red_Fox

Marbles is obviously using it because his grammar is FUBAR

True... the only French I know is menage a trois, and I'm not exactly sure what it is, or even how to achieve it.
 
2004-07-08 11:33:56 AM
Perhaps because some Americans have trouble spelling the word "guide".
 
2004-07-08 11:34:39 AM
Marbles, I seriously hope you are joking, and I'm sure you know...

Voulez-Vous coucher avec moi ce soir?
 
2004-07-08 11:36:23 AM
Red_Fox

It's all about the love at the tam tams, nobody picks on anyone, everyone gets along, so you're right it's very hippy;) I love it
 
2004-07-08 11:37:08 AM
At least we know they won't be ordering quiche, crepes or croissants during class. No champagne or Perrier to celebrate at the end of class either.
 
2004-07-08 11:37:23 AM
Heh... I can say the following (NOTE: "Say," not necessarily "spell"):

Je voudrais un petit picher de vin rouge. (I'd like a small carafe of red wine.)
Sez cent soixante-quattre (1664, French beer -- yeah, I know ;)
Quest-ce que tu fumes? (What are you smoking?)

Not like I'm proud of it or anything. :)
 
2004-07-08 11:38:05 AM
Mishka

Voulez-Vous coucher avec moi ce soir?

that's french!? I thought that those were Patti Labelle lyrics...
 
2004-07-08 11:41:50 AM
Marbles12078 - True... the only French I know is menage a trois, and I'm not exactly sure what it is, or even how to achieve it.

I know what it is, still havent acheived it.:(
 
2004-07-08 11:42:06 AM
wuzupperson...

you're right about your spelling;)
 
2004-07-08 11:42:08 AM
That was a stupid thing to do in the first place.

"hey you, you can't speak your first language here! I don't care if you're blind and you're dog only understands french!"

They must've said what they did outloud and realized how retarded it was.
 
2004-07-08 11:42:20 AM
Ca peut parraitre comique comme ca mais il faut pas penser que le Canada est stupide comme l'Universite mentionne dans l'article. La plupart du temps, au Quebec, comme au Canada, tout le monde fait beaucoup d'efforts pour essayer de comprendre l'interlocuteur, qu'ils soient francais, japonnais, grec ou finlandais. La multi-culture du Canada l'exige.

I hope that clears everything up!
 
2004-07-08 11:44:18 AM
Mishka
I can spell pretty well in English, but I have never, ever been able to comprehend French spelling rules (assuming there even are any!). Plus, I took on German and Spanish, instead. ;)
 
2004-07-08 11:46:07 AM
hitmanric

i do know what it is, but i haven't achieved it. was merely a comedic point... i guess I could have said souffle as well. I know they are harder to achieve than a menage a trois (i'm 67% of the way there already!) but souffles for me turn into nasty omelettes.
 
2004-07-08 11:47:22 AM
bon point philux,

We don't melt people together in Canada, we celebrate each other's cultures.

This incident happened specifically because you go to English immersion to speak nothing but, and if you start speaking French, it defeats the whole purpose. If the dog doesn't want to learn English though, I guess you can't force them too;)
 
2004-07-08 11:49:10 AM
wuzupperson

No hating here, I think it's cool that you know that much, and that you're trilingual, tres sexy;)
 
2004-07-08 11:50:47 AM
Philux: "La plupart du temps, au Quebec, comme au Canada..."

Ca c'est drole. Je crois que le Quebec et le Canada est la meme chose.

--sorry if my grammar is messed up. Damn French verbs fark with me.
 
2004-07-08 11:52:58 AM
Les chiens franais sont trs frais compars leurs propritaires franais.
 
2004-07-08 11:53:24 AM
Am I learning any swear words with that french??? :)


/ flunked out of french with a teacher that taught that total immersion crap! i'm still trying to figure out if kisskasee (sounding it, not spelling it) means sit down or something else 25 years later.
 
2004-07-08 11:56:00 AM
cinamin:- Qu'est-ce que c'est

It means "What is it?"
 
2004-07-08 11:56:31 AM
Cinamin...what words do you wanna know :)

Tapette: Homosexual
Fouer: F#ck
merde: poo

The rest I can think of don't really translate very well. Like Tabernacle and Caulice(probly spelled wrong)
 
2004-07-08 11:56:58 AM
Why couldn't he command the dog in French in the first place? *confused*
 
2004-07-08 11:57:35 AM
Su perro quiere un bistec.

Had to do it... so there ;-)
 
2004-07-08 11:58:55 AM
Red_Fox

it took you explaining Fouer for me to get that you told me to fark myself before...

/told you i didn't know squat about French.
 
2004-07-08 11:59:51 AM
Qu'est qu'on dit "Fark" en francais?
 
2004-07-08 11:59:54 AM
Oh, now i see. That was just stupid. =)
Raus, hund! Raus! Scheisse! Schnell!
 
2004-07-08 12:01:34 PM
True... the only French I know is menage a trois, and I'm not exactly sure what it is,

deux filles en meme temps, mon ami

or even how to achieve it.

Si vous aviez million de dollars que vous pourriez faire qui se produisent, parce que les filles creusent un type avec de l'argent.

/grce Babelfish
 
2004-07-08 12:05:23 PM
BrotherLove

si j'avais d'l'achat million de dollars I'd une toilette actionne par fuse ou une lesbienne a enduit en lard...
 
2004-07-08 12:05:53 PM
Marbles: No worries. I just told you to fark yourself to see if you really understood french.
 
2004-07-08 12:06:01 PM
one can only dream...
 
2004-07-08 12:06:24 PM
Hehehehe thanks jay_vee! Goes to show you how well that method of teaching works for me at least. To this day I see that teacher around town, its the reason I want to learn the swear words. :P
 
2004-07-08 12:12:27 PM
cinamin:- Our French teaching was crap too. It largely focussed on written French in artificial situations. I need to know things like how to complain my light doesn't work, what is French for "hangover cure", and whether what I'm ordering contains animal testicles. I don't need to know whether Michel's father has a blue car.
 
2004-07-08 12:12:39 PM
Yah... My lab responds to French commands.

(Labrador Retrievers were bred in Canada, right? So they're probably bi-lingual anyway...)
 
2004-07-08 12:14:16 PM
For those of you who don't know...

un million is actually 1,000,000,000 or a billion in English
 
2004-07-08 12:18:04 PM
Mishka
It's like German... the word "Billion" in German means trillion (1,000,000,000,000) in English. A billion (1,000,000,000) is "Milliarde". They probably "borrowed" half the words from the French, anyway. But million is "Million". Weird.
 
Mot
2004-07-08 12:19:25 PM
Kopegin biftek istiyormus

While we're on the cliche-train (Turkish).
 
2004-07-08 12:19:31 PM
Mishka: no it's not.

mille = 1000
million = 1 000 000
milliard = 1 000 000 000
 
2004-07-08 12:21:03 PM
Labrador Retrievers were bred in Labrador, which is part of Newfoundland & Labrador. However as Newfoundland is an island and Labrador borders on Quebec, Quebec has suggested that Labrador should actually be part of their province. French isn't even an official language in Labrador and most people don't speak it, unless they live close to the Quebec border.

Anyone care for some more useless information?

I won't be able to give it as I have to go to work soon, in a call centre in Montreal that is closing after 15 years. The announcement was just made two days ago, apparently our centre doesn't fit into the bank's "business plan." So, I'm being forced to move to Toronto if I still want to work for the bank, and I just moved here from Halifax four months ago! Ain't life grand;)
 
2004-07-08 12:23:53 PM
Red_Fox, we were taught...

milliard is a trillion or 1,000,000,000,000
million is a billion or 1,000,000,000
millier is a million or 1,000,000
mille is a thousand or 1,000

Should I tell my French teacher to go Fark herself?
 
2004-07-08 12:26:00 PM
Mishka: Yes I think so. I'm pretty sure about that. I haven't been certified as bilingual English/French for about 8 years. Someone please straighten this out?
 
2004-07-08 12:28:22 PM
Thats just it, jay_vee, rather than changing her teaching method so I could understand what was being asked of me, she was content to let me struggle and give me an f. I really wanted to learn as my grandparents were going to take me to Europe once I graduated, well, before my parents got divorced that is.
 
2004-07-08 12:32:24 PM
Mishka: I have confirmation. You can tell your teacher she's a dumbass.

trillion is trillion
billion is milliard
million is million
thousand is mille
 
2004-07-08 12:33:23 PM
My grandfather spoke to his dog in german. I think most dogs understand it better then english for some reason.


Yes, I have heard anecdotal evidence of this, one of my uncles commands his dog in German, even though he can't speak the language himself (aside from sit, stay etc) He says it has something to do with the german pronounciation [sp] which is more defined than English and easier for a dog to understand the difference between individual commands.

I was considering learning German for his Alsation, but it was deaf and so everything was by hand signals anyway.. prolly german handsignals though :-)
 
2004-07-08 12:34:39 PM
Marbles12078

I ran your post through Altavista translations. The result:

Never I miss the Canadians stupfier with their worms l'arrire thinks. This is only used for proving that, like Franais, they are always good for a laughter. Why j'ai read l'article foutu?

I think you've captured the essence of this thread.
 
2004-07-08 12:37:42 PM
Yes you can!
Mille and millier is 1,000
Million is 1,000 000
Milliard is 1,000 000 000
 
2004-07-08 12:40:07 PM
Marbles

why am I indication in franais? I then sorrow speech the English translator of google of cogently. sacrment making my indication seems topic and full d'esprit!

Translation engines need work.

Zut alors!
 
2004-07-08 12:42:41 PM
Miskka I too love the tam tams on sundays, maybe i'll see you there. i'm the guy with dreadlocks and the devil sticks wearing cut off army pants and no shirt. Left nipple ring only. oh yeah, and i toke
 
2004-07-08 12:45:59 PM
la souris est sous la table
 
2004-07-08 12:54:22 PM
Mishka

Thanks for the info on Labrador and the surrounding regions! I appreciate it.

Sorry you have to move. That sucks.
 
2004-07-08 01:09:01 PM
Qui a coup le fromage?
 
2004-07-08 01:10:00 PM
Merde.

Qui a coupe' le fromage?
 
2004-07-08 01:26:20 PM
Le headline: c'est formidable!
 
2004-07-08 01:29:57 PM
Good. UNB Sucks
and Fredericton is a town that thinks it's a city.
/lives there
 
2004-07-08 01:35:34 PM
Mishka, I speak English. Does that mean I *am* English? No. The word "English" in that context means "person from England". Similarly, a French-speaking Quebecois is not "French". (I suppose you could argue that his nationality is French if his ancestors came from there, but that's stretching things a bit, especially if his family has been there for more than a couple generations.)
 
2004-07-08 01:40:18 PM
I am a French major at college. Actually, to tell someone to "Go fark yourself" you would say "VA TE FAIRE FOUTRE!" Other cool phrases include "JE M'EN FOUS" or "I don't give a fark", "VA TE FAIRE ENCULER!" or "Go get farked up the arse", "ON EST FOUTU!" or "We're farked", "FAIRE UNE PIPE" or slang for "To give a b-job" and "Y'A DU MONDE AU BALCON" for "What a set of tits!". Hope that helps...
 
2004-07-08 02:02:02 PM
LOK AT ME1!!1111 WTF LOL I CAN SP3AK FRENCH!!!11111 OMG WTF LOL LOK AT M31!!!!
 
2004-07-08 02:08:18 PM
If this were America, the other students could file for education misrepresentation or something!

"It was supposed to be an immersion class, but they forced us to deal with a guy speaking French at regular intervals. Further, he got an A in spite of his regular French outbursts and I got a B even after making no French outbursts."
 
2004-07-08 02:26:17 PM
splishsplashfark
Qu'est qu'on dit "Fark" en francais?

Le Farque.
 
2004-07-08 02:29:51 PM
There is some really funny french in here...
The french spelling/grammar is highly regulated by a National French Language Institution, and sites like google and bablefish, etc., all butcher grammar. Rarely can you get a coherent sentence out of them. Is it any better for other languages?
 
2004-07-08 02:36:45 PM
joesnotcool

You also have to factor in the fact that on Fark, the filter filters funny characters.
 
2004-07-08 02:53:34 PM
Il faudrait faire un "FARK Party" aux tams-tams du Mont-Royal un dimanche cet ete.

D'autres Farkers montrealais sont-ils interesses?

Approximate translation:

How about a Fark Party in Montreal, at the tams-tams some sunday this summer?

Any Montreal farkers interested?
 
2004-07-08 03:30:40 PM
j'aime les tam tams sur la montaigne a dimache d'ete.

(terrible french, but there's more Cantonese speakers here than there are French speakers)
 
2004-07-08 04:20:36 PM
2004-07-08 02:53:34 PM gosseyn
Il faudrait faire un "FARK Party" aux tams-tams du Mont-Royal un dimanche cet ete.
D'autres Farkers montrealais sont-ils interesses?
Approximate translation:
How about a Fark Party in Montreal, at the tams-tams some sunday this summer?
Any Montreal farkers interested?


Je serai la! Trouvons une date!
 
2004-07-08 04:21:41 PM
And those translation engine are good for a few laughs!
 
2004-07-08 04:26:45 PM
Je propose que les interesses se retrouvent dimanche le 11 juillet a 13h00 devant la statue du parc du Mont-Royal. Des preneurs?

I suggest this sunday July 11th at 1:00 pm in front of the statue in the Mont-Royal park. Any takers?
 
2004-07-08 04:29:25 PM
What. The. fark.
 
2004-07-08 04:48:18 PM
ore wa nihongo o hanashimasu, soshiate, kono furansugo no banashi o wakaranai.

Who cares if his dog takes French commands? I haven't heard many Americans biatching that many police dogs take commands in German.

"Hi, I want to file suit against the police department because even though I was told not to run away from the scene of the crime, I had no idea the officer told his dog to sick me."

...

Go Lance.

~Liz
 
2004-07-08 04:54:48 PM
Nonexistent, in common usage in Quebec, French=francophone and Anglais=anglophone. Highly annoying for anglophones of Irish descent like me, but whatcha gonna do? Other than correct folks at every opportunity, of course :-)
 
2004-07-08 07:13:26 PM
English surrenders

/nada
 
2004-07-08 08:51:45 PM
RedLynx
Nonexistent, in common usage in Quebec, French=francophone and Anglais=anglophone...


Actually:
French person, French language=Francais
French-speaking person=francophone
French-speaking nations as a whole=la Francophonie
 
2004-07-08 10:29:19 PM
mryoop789:

I know someone who has a dog that understands commands in English, German, and sign language. Damn dog's smarter than I am!

That's nothing - my dog understands morse code and semaphore. But what's really amazing is when he starts a fire, and gives out the "I want steak" in Navajo smoke signals.
 
2004-07-08 11:32:05 PM
Vous ne nous effrayez pas, chiens anglais de porc. Vont bouillir vos fonds, vous les fils d'une personne idiote. Je souffle mon nez vous, au prtendu "roi de Arthur," vous et tous vos che-val-iers anglais idiots.

Close enough.. this was all I could think of after reading that other headline about Spamalot!
 
2004-07-10 06:19:50 PM
Omlette du fromage! Omlette du fromage!
 
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