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(NewsMax)   Leftists lie and screw-up Enron facts in effort to discredit President Bush   ( divider line
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2002-01-21 07:16:14 PM  
us lefties don't need anything to discredit Bush, he seems to do it enough himself.
2002-01-21 07:20:46 PM  
Oh... so this whole Texas Rangers and Houston Astros thing totally makes Republicans and Dubya innocent in all charges and allegations..


Nice article, dick.
2002-01-21 07:23:20 PM  
Tell it how it is NewsMax. Oh wait. I forgot for a second that you're confused hypocritical morons.
2002-01-21 07:24:01 PM  
NewsMax... Enough said.
2002-01-21 07:25:43 PM  
2002-01-21 07:26:16 PM  
Oh, and in other news, I hate you.
2002-01-21 07:26:54 PM  
Here I thought Dubya was an alcoholic rich boy who couldn't manage a Dairy Queen if left to his own devices but here he was brilliant enough to see the upcoming Enron debacle and to sell his interest in the Rangers a year before this Astros mess. My brain hurts.
2002-01-21 07:27:24 PM  
Yea, who wants someone who can actually enunciate common english words and phrases to represent us to other countries? Not me or Mos
2002-01-21 07:28:49 PM  
Correct me if I'm wrong, but:.
-Bush owns (or used to own) stock in Enron
-Enron goes down crapper due to poor management and accounting
-Bush doesn't use executive powers to bail out Enron
-Ergo, Enron failure is Bush's fault.

How does this work again? I would understand charges of impropriety if Bush *did* try to bail out Enron (and therefore protect his private investment and ensure further party donations), but that didn't happen.

Also, Enron *did* donate lots of money to the Democratic party; where is all the rage over *that*?
2002-01-21 07:28:50 PM  
2002-01-21 07:30:23 PM  
Shigelojoe: So your saying that because Bush was smart enough not to do something that would get him impeached then his hands are completely clean?
2002-01-21 07:30:56 PM  
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2002-01-21 07:32:27 PM  
Wow Michael, I guess that means that every president in the past 150 years haven't been qualified to be the president.
2002-01-21 07:32:29 PM  
Shigelojoe I think the concern over Enron and Bush's cabnet is that excutives from Enron met when Bush aides and cabnet members a number of times, but no one has said why. The fact that both Cheney and Bush ran oil/energy companies has some concerned.

Enron lobbyed from both parties, you're right, so the dems aren't in the clear either. This should lead some to denounce lobbyism, because its evil and un-democratic.
2002-01-21 07:32:36 PM  
This ought to be a good thread, can't wait till the morons get here.
2002-01-21 07:33:09 PM  
NEW-CUE-LAR. nuff said.
2002-01-21 07:33:30 PM  
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"Now... my daddy says... that cow poop is a purty good altermanative energy source."
2002-01-21 07:33:46 PM  
I'd say Tina Fey broke it all down rather nicely on Weekend Update the other night, if anyone caught.

When will they start putting the SATIRE tag (img src = whatever) on Newsmax articles? It's one of my favorite humor sites.
2002-01-21 07:33:51 PM  
Let's see, an article by NewsMax. Must be all Clinton's fault, too.
2002-01-21 07:34:04 PM  
There was some Civilization-type strategy games that had as one of the government types Corporate Republic. Seems pretty accurate to me...
2002-01-21 07:34:12 PM  
I did it! I lied about Enron! I discredited Bush! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
2002-01-21 07:34:17 PM  
So what are we getting at? That far-lefties don't care much about sports? That's rarely an issue in debate.

But to take that minor mistake and extrapolate it to the idea that all their other facts must be wrong is just nonsense. Anyhoo, wouldn't it be nice if we quit posting articles from far-left & far-right OPINION sources?
Fark is supposed to be fun, not a political battleground. If I want to argue, I can find a better place to do it.
2002-01-21 07:34:52 PM  
You act as if Republicans (and George W.) are/were the only ones to do that.
2002-01-21 07:35:01 PM  

Now, for the very first time, a released photo of the Newsmax senior editor:

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2002-01-21 07:36:08 PM  
Awww, cute black lab.
2002-01-21 07:37:37 PM  
Bush's hands aren't completely clean, or remotely so; I just hate the bias one side points at the other. I felt the same way during the Clinton impeachment trial; the Republicans blew up an indiscretion into an impeachment.

American politics can sure suck sometimes.
2002-01-21 07:39:38 PM  

A cliche doggy, perhaps?
2002-01-21 07:39:57 PM  
I would like to see the whole Enron thing lead to REAL campaign finance reform, I'm farking sick of anyone with money getting the biggest say in politics. Though thats only been going on since the idea of politics existed.

Oh well.
2002-01-21 07:40:07 PM  
well rightists lie to

quick question do you support pretzel boy because hes an ultraconservative like you or because you think hes a good president

also could a lefty be a good president or are they all hopelessly inept
2002-01-21 07:40:49 PM  
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(about as useful as this thread will be)
2002-01-21 07:41:15 PM  
In lane #1 representing the conservatives, we have Fb-, a "former" military vet!

In lane #2 representing the liberals, we have Rei, a practicing lesbian!

Ladies and Gentlemen, Start The Flamewar!

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2002-01-21 07:43:17 PM  
I don't want Rei representing left leaning people, she's an idiot.
2002-01-21 07:43:22 PM  
i hate liberal slime
2002-01-21 07:43:43 PM  
Its not that he did anything wrong himself, its that Enron Told everyone it was all just peachy up untill last month, and the warned Bush, Powell, and Ashcroft to get rid of their stock in the company. Thats why Ashcroft excused himself from the investigation, he said, and i quote- "There is a chance that it may cross the boundary into my personal life" meaning because of what he was told, he could not fufill his duties as Attorney general. It wasnt one big fark up, but instead theres many, many farkups, and more keep appearing every day
2002-01-21 07:43:47 PM  
Shigelojoe: I hope I never act like that. I understand that the corruption is across both parties. I just get tired of when alligations are brought up against Bush republicans and conservatives get up on their chairs and shout: "DEMOCRATS DO IT TOO!" Oh, okay then, I guess that makes it alright. I don't remember many people thinking that it was good enough when people said "REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN HAVING AFFAIRS AND LYING FOR YEARS!" when Clinton was president (if you need a reminder then Newt and Packwood are just a few of the adulterers and Oliver North and Nixon are a few of the liars).

Just because the other party does is to that doesn't make the wholesale auctioning of our government okay.

Also, the amount given by Enron to Republicans triples the amount given to Democrats. I don't know if that's because they knew who would be more effective in office or if the Democrats are just cheaper whores.
2002-01-21 07:45:13 PM  
Personally, I think that the prez is doing a much better job then I though that he would.
Heh, Here it comes...
2002-01-21 07:46:10 PM  
Painfully [image from too old to be available]: Another ridiculously biased article from another ridiculously biased site posted with the "obvious" tag.
2002-01-21 07:46:22 PM  
here-here... or is it hear-hear... fukit
2002-01-21 07:46:53 PM  
Point of information: Fb- is not a conservative. He served in his country's armed forces, voted for Nader, and is a practicing Lesbian. "Rei" is merely one of his other logons.
2002-01-21 07:48:29 PM  
What hasn't occurred by the lefties is recognition the Nation put out some REALLY crappy reporting for which the only purpose was to attempt to place blame on Bush. Bush's involvement (in relation to the article) is actually not at issue. Irregardless of which way you lean, or who you support, the author should be chastised by both sides. One side for reporting lies, the other for reporting lies and making their cause look like it's supported by a bunch a buffoons that make things up for the hell of it.
2002-01-21 07:48:45 PM  
Don't forget: he also faked the moon landings...
2002-01-21 07:48:57 PM  
Isn't it funny how we all thought when Bush was elected he would line the pockets of the oil companies and thus gas prices would go through the roof?

And yet, they're so very very low right now....
2002-01-21 07:49:28 PM  
"Painfully : Another ridiculously biased article from another ridiculously biased site posted with the "obvious" tag."

Funny, I think the same thing when I see an article from CNN posted.
2002-01-21 07:49:55 PM  
And yet people wonder why conservatives get a reputation as mean, greedy assholes who think that anyone who doesn't look/act like them is evil...way to break out of the stereotype Jake.
2002-01-21 07:51:04 PM  
Valkhorn The whole low oil prices are thanks to Russia, Bush had nothing to do with it.
2002-01-21 07:51:31 PM  
"And yet people wonder why conservatives get a reputation as mean, greedy assholes who think that anyone who doesn't look/act like them is evil...way to break out of the stereotype Jake."

Yes, because liberals are well-known for their tolerance of different opinions.

/sarcasm off

Argue long enough with a liberal and you're bound to be called a) a racist; b) Hitler; or c) a fascist. If you're called all three, then you know you have just won the argument.
2002-01-21 07:52:29 PM  
Nation is "far-left"???

Glurk... Blurble....
2002-01-21 07:53:19 PM  
CLICHE DOGGIE! thats perfect.

This will be my mission for the next year or two, to make that dog FAMOUS.

You gotta love that "im crazy AND im vicious" look.
2002-01-21 07:53:57 PM  
Last time I checked Russia didn't have much oil. If any at all.

They're rich in Diamonds, Natural Gas, and Coal I believe but not Oil. And if they did have any oil it wouldn't make much difference b/c unless they're in OPEC they couldn't.
2002-01-21 07:54:01 PM  
NewsMax is biased. Absolutely. And yet, in this case, they got it right. The Nation blew it. They were using Enron Stadium as a link to pull Bush in, where there was no link between Bush and Enron stadium. Getting it wrong the first time was bad, getting it wrong the second time was incredibly lousy journalism. NewsMax is wrong to assume deliberate lying, it's just shoddy journalism on the Nation's part. Screwing up a correction is just plain stupid.
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