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(Some Guy)   Gary - "America's Magic Industrial City" - if by "Magic Industrial City" they mean "Shithole"   ( divider line
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3897 clicks; posted to Main » on 21 Jan 2002 at 7:12 PM (15 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2002-01-21 07:21:23 PM in any money in your pocket magically disappears within 3 minutes of entering city limits???
2002-01-21 07:33:27 PM  
I may be naive, but this does not sound like a ringing endorsement:

"America's Magic Industrial City
From Sand Hills to Urban Decay"

Can anyone explain? Concentrate on the Urban Decay part please.
2002-01-21 07:40:27 PM  
They should have named it "Todd".
2002-01-21 07:42:14 PM  
they should have named it "Tyrone"
2002-01-21 07:44:25 PM  
I've been here! I work for a steel company, and I was sent here a few times to build the network and make some changes to the LAN. I stayed in Merriville, about 15 minutes south of Gary. Honestly, I've left this place and drove through the town...its not a place I'd want to break down. Apparently, it used to have the highest percentage of killings of anywhere in the US. I never had any problems in Merriville, other than it being a "dry county" where you cannot buy cold beer unless you go to a liquor store. The people at a grocery store thought I was crazy when I asked where the cold beer was. If your from WV, you just assume every gas station, supermarket, and drug store has cold beer.
2002-01-21 07:45:13 PM  
How did "shiathole" make it into the title?
2002-01-21 07:46:40 PM  
In the words of the immortal Music Man:

Gary, Indiana
Gary, Indiana
Gary, Indiana

And so forth...
2002-01-21 07:55:54 PM  
Pretty funny...every single link at the bottom is broken.

Irony, or performance art?
2002-01-21 08:02:56 PM  
Hey, I have lived in Northwest Indiana my whole life. THe suburb where I grew up is only 10 minutes from the Gary City Limits. Gary, Indiana is an urban wasteland, for sure. But it was not always this way. My parents, both in their early fifties, vivdly remember when Gary was a city likened to Chicago, IL. It used to be a hub for commerce and such. Unfortunately, many events in the 1960's-70's turned this once great city into the "shiathole" is is today. The closing/partioning of the steel mills (Inland Steel, US Steel, National, LTV, etc.), the urban flight of whites to the suburbs, and general lack of government responsibility all, as a result, turned the city into a cesspool of poverty, crime and drug abuse.
However, there are still good areas of the city. It isn't entirely like what some would tell you. It is true, however, that the city did have the highest murder rate in the United States for several years. This has been surpassed for the past couple of years by other cities.
It is unfortunate that Gary, Indiana has fallen into this state.
2002-01-21 08:05:14 PM  
Why would the "whites" fleeing to the suburbs have anything to do with the decay of the city?
2002-01-21 08:05:57 PM  
I get my porn from Gary.
2002-01-21 08:06:04 PM  
The only thing I know about Gary, IN is it's where 'A Christmas Story' takes place
2002-01-21 08:10:46 PM  
I was born in Gary, at the same hospital as Michael Jackson. St. Mary's, which is closed. Used to be a nice area. The 1st Burger King in Northwest Indiana was in Gary. It used to be a treat when my dad took us to eat there. This was in the early 70's. If you did any kind of business, you went to Gary. You went to the Village to shop, closest thing to a mall at the time. before strip malls and all that. I installed security alarms all across northern Indiana, over 25% in Gary. crack houses right next to beautiful old homes. I buddy and his brother got held up at gunpoint last month, while fixing a furnace in Gary. He thought he was gonna die. Now, the first white mayor in the country was elected in a city that is over 80% black. Gary was the first city in the US to elect a black mayor, Richard Hatcher. He farked up the town for over 20 years, then got voted out. Can't believe Trump had Miss America hosted in downtown Gary, what was he thinking: shiatty, boarded up and burned out!
2002-01-21 08:12:34 PM  
SKIDNUTS: 'A Christmas Story' happened in Hammond IN. FYI
2002-01-21 08:14:53 PM  
I'm from Hobart, IN. Home of the Brickies. Best football history in the state. home of the 2nd winningest coach in the state. Died the first year into his retirement.
2002-01-21 08:19:42 PM  
Hammond, IN...Gary, IN....either way, you'll shoot your eye out, kid
2002-01-21 08:24:07 PM  
No, THEY'LL shoot your eye out. hehehehe
2002-01-21 08:29:49 PM  
MY CAR BROKE DOWN OUTSIDE GARY INDIANA on a cross-country road trip! The guys at the transmission shop (luckily only interested in overcharging me) said they'd replace the tranny in a day, so my friend and I were going to go stay at a Motel 6 or something and the shop guys were like, "No don't stay over there, they'll kill you and take your money." We started chuckling but then noticed the guys weren't smiling. It wasn't until after we made it out of there that we found out how lucky we were to escape with our lives.
2002-01-21 08:30:18 PM  
I think the beginning of Christmas Story plainly reads "Gary Indiana".

Its amazing how many liquor stores, used car lots, and abandoned buildings there are in Gary. I grew up in Portage, right next to Gary. When I took drivers ed, my first day at the wheel the instructor made me drive through Gary. It's scarey enough in the daytime. Can't imagine that place at night.

I think Lake county has the highest car insurance rates in indiana, maybe Gary has something to do with it?
2002-01-21 08:39:53 PM  
Nope...a quick IMDB search says that 'Christmas Story' indeed takes place in Hammond, IN
2002-01-21 08:56:45 PM  
It was GARY in Christmans Story. I even remember the old man reading the newspaper and reading "some yokel down in Hammond did (something stupid)....."
2002-01-21 09:01:26 PM  
Gary is part of 'the region'. No one considers it part of Indiana. They did hold the title of murder capital for several years, and last year had a multiple homicide drive by shooting at a high school football game.

Jean Shepherd cites Hohman, Indiana as his home town in his book "In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash". This book was the basis of the movie.

He writes:
Hohman, Indiana is located in the extreme Northwestern corner of the state, where the state line ends abruptly in the icy, detergent-filled waters of the queen of the Great Lakes, Michigan. It clings precariously to the underbody of Chicago like a barnacle clings to the rotting hulk of a tramp steamer.

Book = Hammond
Movie = Gary

Take your pick. Not much difference.
2002-01-21 09:03:39 PM  
Sorry, I never read the book.
2002-01-21 09:03:43 PM  
gary is the armpit of the midwest
2002-01-21 09:05:28 PM  
the rest of indiana is great. they should just give lake county to illinois.

p.s.: i grew up in bloomington...only been to gary like 4 or 5 times, so my opinion may not cary much weight.
2002-01-21 09:06:18 PM  
"I'm from Hobart, IN. Home of the Brickies. Best football history in the state. home of the 2nd winningest coach in the state. Died the first year into his retirement."

Oh shiat... Oooooh shiat... ;) Who are you, where do you live, and do you have more to sell?
2002-01-21 09:07:26 PM  
Hmmm... I followed the "Endangered Buildings" link and got this:

The page cannot be found

The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

Guess they aren't endangered anymore.
2002-01-21 09:08:23 PM  
Some areas in South Bend actually worried me more than in Gary. Who'd a thought? Other than the time some punks came out of a burned out crack house, eyeing me as I'm loading my tools in the back of my pick up after doing an install. And why is Martin Luther King Drive always in the worst part of any town I've ever visited?
2002-01-21 09:10:40 PM  
Don't worry BigSpike, Tyrone Willingham will save us!
2002-01-21 09:13:39 PM  
It's one of those chicken and egg quandries...

Did they name the worst street in town MLK Jr Street?
Did a normal street named MLK JR Street turn to total crapolla overnight?
2002-01-21 09:14:20 PM  
Ain't nothing wrong with Gary. You guys have something against crack whores?
2002-01-21 09:22:34 PM  
Did they name the worst street in town MLK Jr Street?
Did a normal street named MLK JR Street turn to total crapolla overnight?

Good Point Hoosier. Tho MLK Dr. in Gary is a swamp road.

Hohman is a main Avenue in Hammond.

Trump's casino boat is in Gary, but the ads all say Buffington Harbor, IN As if that's a town.

I was in Norway once. All the kids wanted to practice their English on me. I said I was from Chicago, they kept saying "Ganster, huh? Al Capone? bang bang" Got bored of this after a while. Started saying I'm from Gary (like they heard of Hobart, IN). Then they started in with the with "Gary Indiana, Gary Indiana......" argh....
2002-01-21 09:32:28 PM  
Einer: OK, let me rephrase that. Hobart HS is the best football school in the state that doesn't recruit (IE: Catholic High schools). ; )
2002-01-21 09:55:18 PM  
Why take shots when someone is trying to better, if not themselves, then the city itself. It may be funny, but better it happen than not.
2002-01-21 09:56:06 PM  
While driving out to the coast for college. I would, depending on the route I took, sometimes pass through Gary. At the time, I had a silver car. I distinctly remember stopping for gas in Gary, and in the short time that I'd stopped a thin sheen of back grime developing on my car.

I'm assuming that was from the steel plants? Although I'll say this, I worked in a tool room for years, and never got that, even in the parking lot of our factory.

Can one of you Indiana guys fill me in.
2002-01-21 09:59:25 PM  
And who sang "Gary, Indiana" in the movie version of The Music Man? That's right, child actor turned actor turned director, Ron Howard.
2002-01-21 10:00:46 PM  
Big Spike,

Good point with MLK Jr. Street.
2002-01-21 10:01:21 PM  
I've driven (well, my parents have with me in the car) around Gary before. It smells bad enough going past it; how bad does it smell in Gary?
2002-01-21 10:05:02 PM  
I get my porn from Gary.

That sounds funny because my name is Gary.
2002-01-21 10:17:13 PM  
"Kiss her where it smells....Take her to Gary, Indiana!"
2002-01-21 10:18:05 PM  
I've driven downtown at night to go to a friends house to fix his computer. Never take less than three pistols and a hundred rounds of ammo. Thank god for the Indiana's concealed weapons permit.
2002-01-21 10:20:45 PM  
Hoosier - If you're referring to the MLK Jr. Memorial Parkway here in Indy, It used to be called Northwestern Ave. - and it's always been a wretched hive of scum and villainny. You know - the place where the poor people live, where the wild things are.
2002-01-21 10:20:47 PM  
That grime is residue from the smelting of the taconite.

The smell is from the sulfer from the same. And you can tell when the wind comes in from the north. :p

And Suse, the City of Gary, has been "trying" to help itself for over 30 years. It'll never happen, especially with all of the "dumping" of inferior foreign steel (IE: selling it for less than it costs to make it). When the steel industry goes sour, Northwest Indiana suffers. That's the single most integral industry there. I left the area because I didn't want to be a millwright or steel worker (not that there's anything wrong with that). I lived off of SPAM during the 70's recession because my dad couldn't find solid work, he was a truck driver with nothing to haul. Now Miller Beach is a cool area to visit, but you can still get shot there.
2002-01-21 10:37:29 PM  
Now why you gotta be dis'n Gary also.
First Detroit now this.
This ain't cool yo. ;)
2002-01-21 10:39:57 PM  
Born and raised in Flint, MI. That's the Michigan equivalent, except instead of the steel mills or whatnot, we had GM come and go. They even made a movie out of it (Rogers and Me). Lucky for me, my parents were in the health care business rather than the automotive industry.
2002-01-21 10:42:23 PM  
gary is the type of city we should build a 20' wall around and drop death row inmates into
2002-01-21 10:55:25 PM  
"And who sang "Gary, Indiana" in the movie version of The Music Man? That's right, child actor turned actor turned director, Ron Howard."

It was the Play Bye Bye Birdy. I remember Because I was the Little Brother in the HS Play when I was in 5th Grade. Oh the Days. Hell I had a Solo in the Song "These kids today"
2002-01-21 11:05:48 PM  
Hell Look at these Stats from the 2000 Census for Gary Indiana

Total Pop. 100,985

Black: 86,340

White: 12,245

Hispanic: 5,065

Asian: 140

2002-01-21 11:19:38 PM  
I went to Gary once. If I ever return I will be wearing a hazardous environment suit.

Call up the Indiana tourist line sometime and tell them you wish to visit Gary because you have heard there is no cespool unmatched in putrid air on the earth. Then ask where you can rent protective gear to keep out the pollution.
2002-01-21 11:36:49 PM  
I live in Valparaiso, IN...about 30 minutes from Gary. Gary has a huge black population. I've seen the decay. I too remember my parents talking about going to Gary/Hammond like it was the mecca of state-of-the-art stores.

When the white flight took place the city took a dump quick. When I think of my black friends (not in Gary), I am embarrassed that I blame their race for the general down-swing of the habitability there. But the evidence persists. I do not want to be a racist but I find myself generalizing because of what I have seen and experienced the same pattern over and over.

Of coarse, there is the "Black Oak" (ironically WHITE TRASH) part of Gary the scares me more than 5th & Broad.

Maybe I'm just scared of EVERYBODY in the region.
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