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2004-06-28 08:18:11 PM
GoodYearPimp:

She could have anyone? And you don't get the "insides remark". Your Mom never gave you that line? Yeah, well she proves every Mom's point about leaving the pretty, shallow ones alone. If you've been shot down by the likes of Miss Perv, just think maybe the reason was more her than you.

"she could have had anyone why did she marry the old guy for his money..."

"she could have anyone why'd she marry three men and kill them for the insurance money..."

"she could have anyone why did she want a 14 year old child..."

Cuz she's nuts, so no, she couldn't have anyone she wanted. Evenutally anyone would have figured out the sanity button didn't work anymore.


Here's folksy logic:

What's beautiful isn't always good,
but what's good is always beautiful.
 
2004-06-28 08:18:40 PM
I think when it is an older man/younger girl relationship the higher stigma comes from the possible teenage pregnancy. The same people who encourage breeding are extremely fearful of it in the *wrong* situations. Pfft.
 
2004-06-28 08:24:39 PM
ArcadianRefugee
According to this site, neither of those ceremonies suggest the individual is sexually mature. Specifically: "Bar mitzvah is not about being a full adult in every sense of the word, ready to marry, go out on your own, earn a living and raise children. The Talmud makes this abundantly clear. In Pirkei Avot, it is said that while 13 is the proper age for fulfillment of the Commandments, 18 is the proper age for marriage and 20 is the proper age for earning a livelihood. Elsewhere in the Talmud, the proper age for marriage is said to be 16-24. Bar mitzvah is simply the age when a person is held responsible for his actions and minimally qualified to marry."

And at this site they suggest the age of Christian confirmation: "The age at which confirmation is given has differed widely in different ages and countries.
The ancient custom still continued in the Eastern churches was to administer it to infants.
In the West it became usual in the Middle Ages to postpone it to the age or reason that is, seven years old.
The English Prayer Book requires all children to have learned the Catechism before confirmation which is to be given when the child reaches years of discretion that is, when he is able to distinguish right from wrong.

Queen Elizabeth I was confirmed by Archbishop Cranmer when she was a week old.

This was probably deliberate archaism.

John Wesley was confirmed at eight (1711).

This was usual at that time."

Again, none of this seems to have any bearing on this thread, but as I am neither a practicing Jew or Christian, I thought I might look it up. Thank you for your thoughts.
 
2004-06-28 08:25:37 PM
rowing

You are confusing marriage with "have"ing.

She coulda farked anyone, but she chose a 14yo kid.

Here's folksy logic:

What's beautiful isn't always good,
but what's good is always beautiful.


I can show you lotsa good people that are ugly as monkey-butt.

Oh, wait, you are redefining a word mid-sentence. Sorry, that's a no-no in my book. Besides, you think this kid wanted someone "beautiful"? No, he wanted someone beautiful. I'm doubting he wanted love; he wanted sex.

Good doesn't swallow. Hell, "good" wouldn't have done any of what he got.
 
2004-06-28 08:26:09 PM
Oh well, couldn't post it.

/Skankingrudie wins anyways
 
2004-06-28 08:27:28 PM
Damn.... All of my teachers looked like "Ms. Hathaway" from Beverly Hillbillies, and they wouldn't have sex with me no matter HOW much I begged!
 
2004-06-28 08:27:29 PM
These dumbass Portland DJs won't shut up about this. They're getting calls from people who've done the reverse (23 y/o guys hitting 14 y/o girls), saying it's sick and wrong when it goes one way, but the kid's a stud if he bangs his older female teacher. Interesting debate.
 
2004-06-28 08:28:01 PM
REOIV & ArcadianRefugee-

Thanks for replying, I am glad that you could find time to climb of your "cub scouts" long enough to chime in.

I don't think that anyone will benefit from a JudeoChristian validity thread at this point. I could throw in a little Bush/Kerry comment to realy get things rolling. My point is that you are not an adult when you turn "any" age, but especially 14, and definitely not because someone throws you a party proclaiming that you are one.
 
2004-06-28 08:28:24 PM
page 9 is pretty steamy as well...

anyway, i think there ought to be one of these in every school for every boy going through puberty. sort of like the ancient prostitute concept. and hell, you could have men and women for whatever sexual persuasion you may have.

seems very handy.
 
2004-06-28 08:28:32 PM
cinamin - more details, please.

I think she did it as revenge for the wedding-cake-in-the-face, she was plotting his humiliation all these years, and she would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids !
 
2004-06-28 08:29:02 PM
"...pulled his penis and placed it on her vagina..."

IN, you bastage...IN!!!!!
 
2004-06-28 08:29:17 PM
Bar mitzvah is simply the age when a person is held responsible for his actions and minimally qualified to marry."

Consensual sex isn't one of the minimal requirements for marriage?
 
2004-06-28 08:30:01 PM
Thales

We can go with anecdotal evidence or clinical. Which would you prefer?

And for those of you who are certain this kid would be worshipped in high school: It's been too long since you were in high school. It's been too long for me, too, but I do recall that anything that made you different was subject to ridicule, hazing and exile. I don't think it's been so long that that has changed.
 
2004-06-28 08:30:42 PM
lol ... berniex
 
2004-06-28 08:33:25 PM
If I had a woman who looked like that give me a BJ when I was 14 years old, I would've lasted all of 2 seconds before I "finished". But it would be 2 seconds of memories that I would cherish forever.
 
2004-06-28 08:33:47 PM
ArcadianRefugee - See, the difference is, he spoke fact: 14 year old males do not have to worry about impregnating 23-year-old married women. He cannot be held for it. At all. Ever.

Oh... well... as long as there are no financial obligations.

shiat, I didn't know that... I mean, hell... It probably wouldn't be remotely troubling or damaging to a 14 year old boy to know that his married teacher was carrying his child... shiat, as long he don't have to pony up no dough, it's all good.

For that matter I guess if a dude really wanted to poke some 14 year old ass, all he'd have to do is get a teaching degree and a vasectomy (maybe throw a condom on to boot.)

I mean, as long as he can't knock the little hotties up, the state should be down with it, right?
 
2004-06-28 08:34:02 PM
only humiliation I see is her's.

let's say this 14 yr old KNEW she was married and hit it JUST to let her husband know she's a no good 2 timing tramp who was bragging about the credit card he gave her.

I say props to the 14 yr old for ratting out this cheat'n hussy
 
2004-06-28 08:34:54 PM
The only thing that's going to screw up this 14 year old boy is the massive attention he'll get for this. I guarantee you he loved every second he spent with her.

When I was 14 I hooked up with a hot 21 year old and I was super-stoked! I'm still super-stoked about it! Looking back, it was probably a really positive thing in my life. It certainly boosted my confidence.

Maybe it's different for girls, but perhaps more so in cases where there is some kind of force exerted (mental or physical). I think some women that age are fully aware of what they're doing and quite happy to do it.

What good can arise from punishing this woman in any severe manner if her victim feels lucky to have been "victimized?"
 
2004-06-28 08:35:17 PM
berniex
I think she did it as revenge for the wedding-cake-in-the-face
Damn- I did the same to the wife at our wedding... we're going to have a little chat, post haste.
 
2004-06-28 08:35:26 PM
Seeing if my account still works after all these centuries. Hopefully my boys will grow up and get helpful teachers.
 
2004-06-28 08:36:05 PM
THALES,

You've obviously never been married...
 
2004-06-28 08:38:02 PM
The Virgin Mary was 14 at the time she gave birth to Jesus. And God was like how old?

Ok... weak argument, but I'm still on the side that this is a victimless crime (except for small-johnson hubby).
 
2004-06-28 08:39:11 PM
Sucks to be that chick's husband.

"So yeah, uh, my hot blonde wife? She's in prison. She preferred banging a pimply-faced 14-year old dork."
 
2004-06-28 08:39:35 PM
The Virgin Mary was 14 at the time she gave birth to Jesus. And God was like how old?



Now, THAT is funny.
 
2004-06-28 08:42:43 PM
ranold, welcome to the real world. Double standards exist, and for good reason.

A 14 year-old boy having sex with an older woman has some risk of long-term emotional damage, but it is SIGNIFICANTLY less than the damage that can occur if, say, a 23 year old man has sex with a 14 year old girl.

A similar example is when Dad's are absent from their children's lives. For boys, it's bad, but not NEARLY as bad as it is for girls. Girls spend the rest of their lives trying to find/replace daddy.



Spoken like a true idiot. You try being a guy and losing your dad, and then see what you spend the rest of your life doing. Twerp.
 
2004-06-28 08:46:06 PM
 
2004-06-28 08:46:13 PM
No wonder this got a dumbass tag. EYE-POD!? come on, what the hell were they thinking. Such dumbassitude.
 
2004-06-28 08:46:32 PM
If I were the husband, well if I were the husband it would never happen because I would be able to handle my business long time. However, if this happened to me I would leave her like a bad habit. Then I would kick the kid's ass, destroy her car, burn it and her clothes and leave her to the dogs at court. Then I would thank the mom for raising such a whore as I leave the state and start my new life elsewhere.

I mean, I've seen more respect and scantity in an episode of Jerry Springer
 
2004-06-28 08:47:45 PM
Anyone else waiting for her video to come out? Of course not w/ the kid, but you know a chick that would do a kid will make pr0n w/ her husband.

Also, you can make out his first name at the top of page 5 of the SG report... His classmates should beat his arse for ruining their chances at hitting it.
 
2004-06-28 08:50:08 PM
DAMMMMMMN that kid is lucky
 
2004-06-28 08:50:44 PM
You just know Larry Flynt is burning up the phone lines right now.
 
2004-06-28 08:51:42 PM
man, whats the chances that her and I would have the same b-day.
 
2004-06-28 08:52:36 PM
I don't understand what all the grousing is about. When I was 15 I banged the hell out of a sophmore at the local university (20 years old). Sure she wasn't my "teacher", but man if she was that would have just made it even better.

I have very, very, very fond memories of this.

And yes, for the most part it is a double standard. However I know more than one girl in my High School that would have spread 'em for a certain english teacher we had and been more than happy about it. I think society really farks girls in the head - making them think that the end result of any relationship ought to be marriage.
 
2004-06-28 08:55:41 PM
wow, wonder what she was doing in my hometown(Ocala) also...well asides from doing little boys of course.
 
2004-06-28 08:58:34 PM
one more thing...I was actually at that park ON that day she was there right around that time with my buddy...


hmm
 
2004-06-28 08:59:18 PM
amazing headline...got rice in my nose....
 
2004-06-28 08:59:36 PM
LoganKungfu, I kinda hope the guy does kick the kid's ass later on down the road. If he's so mature he thinks he can fark a married woman (who knows better) then he's mature enough to take an ass beating.
 
2004-06-28 08:59:41 PM
It has to be a dream for some teenagers .... you know having a crush on a teacher ... and thinking nasty thoughts about getting it on with them.

I had the hots for a few teachers in Jr. High and High School, although I never told anyone. I wasn't very attractive, shy and didn't have many friends.

But I would have unpure thoughts none the less .... lol
 
2004-06-28 09:01:40 PM
Realize too that this is a problem of relationships.

The student was not in a relationship that allows for sex.

How many of us fark our butcher or our sanitation worker(s)?

Not too many. You shouldn't fark your butcher or your sanitation workers or even your postman. It's just not the type of relationship for sex (assuming that's the client-professional relationship is the only one you share).

If you want to fark a teacher (or a postman or butcher), fark one that isn't yours. The nature of the relationship you share can only lead to problems.

Even if he'd been farking the lunch lady it would have been wrong. If the student was from a different school it would have been more acceptable.
 
2004-06-28 09:04:58 PM
And looking from the teacher's perspective, unless this kid had a special attributes she couldn't get elsewhere, her expectations are set way too low.

I have to believe she gets off to the idea of youth. Think about when you were 14. Sex didn't last very long. It was enjoyable, but a short ride. Like a rollercoaster without all the lows.
 
2004-06-28 09:06:32 PM
The Talmud makes this abundantly clear. In Pirkei Avot, it is said that while 13 is the proper age for fulfillment of the Commandments, 18 is the proper age for marriage and 20 is the proper age for earning a livelihood. Elsewhere in the Talmud, the proper age for marriage is said to be 16-24. Bar mitzvah is simply the age when a person is held responsible for his actions and minimally qualified to marry."

Okay, so the Talmud thing (which, now reading it, makes me cringe a lot more -- marry, and THEN get a job? Wow.... Last time I use THAT for a reference point) is so, but mind you that is a recommendation -- it is not law. Once confirmed (or whatever the past tense verb is for having had a Bar Mitzvah) you are an adult and CAN marry, according to text; it may not be recommended that you do, but you can: you are an adult, you are allowed that decision.

But I congratulate you for actually doing your homework (and making me work). Now if only you could get a less gay name.

:)

Seriously, though. Don't you think that if nature found that 15 (example) was "too young" psychologically, that hmanity might have developed to mature sexually later in life?

Hell, a few years back, I made a comment about a poster of Britney Spears in a 7-11, and the woman manning the counter said, "She's just a child!"

Britney was 19 at the time.

My problem with "child" is that it seems we are raising the bar all the time, but only in favor of adults or, rather, ourselves: when a "child" does something childish and gets into trouble with the law or others, we say "but he's just a child". But when that same child does something childish that annoys us, we tell him to "grow up" or "act your age".

That and the arbitrary cutoff at 18 is, well, arbitrary. I mean, I can tell you I was no more mature at 14 than I was at 18, yet the law treated me as such.
 
2004-06-28 09:07:22 PM
I guess my mom didn't try to baffle me with bullshiat.
 
2004-06-28 09:07:38 PM
I don't think any court would convict him if both the teen and the biatch end up looking like ground beef over the royal cut ass they would get on their trifling selves.

Bombaclot!

(if ever there was an occasion to use that word)
 
2004-06-28 09:09:06 PM
I have to believe she gets off to the idea of youth. Think about when you were 14. Sex didn't last very long. It was enjoyable, but a short ride. Like a rollercoaster without all the lows.



I'd like to be a woman who is satisfied quick enough to fark a two second shooter (more than once), 14 years old or not. Pfft.
 
2004-06-28 09:10:57 PM
I think this fine woman was performing a wonderful community service.

Oh, and this is obligatory: I submitted this with a funnier headline.
 
2004-06-28 09:11:46 PM
technicolor-misfit

Again, extrapolation, and putting words in a mouth.

Read what I said again, and this time put effort into reading comprehension:

I did NOT say what happened was "OK". I said a 14-year-old male has a lot less to worry about than a 14-year-old female when one is knockin' boots with an older partner.

Whether or not a 14-year-old girl with a vasectomied 50yo male -- an extrapolation and a hypothetical -- has as much, or less, to worry about is not the point. Or, rather, it is -- the 14-year-old doesn't have to worry about condoms, vasectomies, etc.,. The fact that the gilr would proves my point.

Again, this does NOT say either is right or wrong. It simply is.
 
2004-06-28 09:13:13 PM
This kid will not be emotionally scarred. The difference between boys and girls, especially at this age: girls use sex for comfort, security, self-esteem and a sense of worth; boys use sex for an orgasm. When the molested girl gets older, she will look back and regret it, the boy will look back and be proud that he banged a hottie teacher when he was 14. That doesn't change the fact that the chick is a sicko, but most kids in this situation wouldn't think twice before tagging her.
 
2004-06-28 09:13:31 PM
Yes, count_spatula, and ad-hominen attacks make you a true genius.

I am generalizing, jagoff. Statistics show that boys who never know their fathers are far less likely to have major emotional issues than girls who never know their fathers.

I didn't say it was easy for boys, but I'm saying that the risks are a lot higher for girls.

your mileage may vary, of course.
 
2004-06-28 09:14:03 PM
Back in grade school I had a hot teacher, about 20 or so years later I ran into her in a concert and she began hitting on me. I would have went for it but she really showed her age. Hard to believe someone can go from Dazy Duke to Bea Arthur in such a short time....
 
2004-06-28 09:14:15 PM
About those who come with the biblical reference.

Back in those times people lived shorter for one.
Also, by the time you were 16 your parents had nothing to do with you, meaning that you had to fend for your own damn self meaning that you were a man. In fact you were in a TRADE by the time you hit eight. So if you want to do it based on that ideology you have to look at the social climate. Since 14, and shoot even 21 year olds still sponge off their parents they are still children and have no voice. That was the rules back then. If you still lived with your folks, you wern't an adult. So all those people who say back then it was maturity, well, let them have an arranged marriage and all would be hunky dory even in the here and now.

Since it isn't and the penelity for doing such back in the day was lynching and stoning then lets go back to those grand old times.

Oh, and remember, back in the 'good old days' women were second class posessions too so let's go back to that magical time.

/oozing sarcasm
 
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