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2004-06-23 10:57:27 AM  
What's a "newspaper?"
 
2004-06-23 11:10:48 AM  
Those things that my fiancee leaves spread out in front of my dresser.
 
2004-06-23 12:07:27 PM  
Sorry man, I'm usually muddy when I get there after work. It's better for all involved.
 
2004-06-23 12:16:04 PM  
Doesn't fark link to stories about itself in the press?
 
2004-06-23 12:33:31 PM  
Apparently the shiatload of popups on their site aren't paying very well.
 
2004-06-23 12:51:15 PM  
Editor: Stop the press!

Pressman: Okay, what's the big story!

Editor: We've stopped the presses!

Pressman: Yes.

Editor: We stopped the press. THAT'S our big story.

Pressman: I've got your headline right here. (Pees on editors forehead)
 
2004-06-23 01:46:54 PM  
Did they represent the price difference with a pie graph? You know, so the average USA Today reader could comprehend it.
 
2004-06-23 01:47:28 PM  
hensonkid:

Popups? What is that?

/Firefox user
 
2004-06-23 01:48:07 PM  
Wonder if that was done by a person, or if it was automated? Must be losing money because you can read the online version for free, still.
 
sos
2004-06-23 01:48:10 PM  
USA Today is a worthless newspaper anyway. I would never even pay 50 cents for a copy, let alone 75 cents. The only time I read it is when I am in a hotel and I get a free copy, or someone has left one somewhere and I am bored.
 
sos
2004-06-23 01:52:55 PM  
With average daily circulation of 2.3 million, USA TODAY is the largest-selling newspaper in the country.

95% of which has got to be hotels.

Moon said the company had been investing in consumer research about the price increase since last summer. He said the company will spend $10 million on new coin mechanisms to sell the newspaper.

Seems like a better design would have been to allow the mechanism to be changed. They don't replace the mechanism in a Coke machine when the price changes, they reprogram it.
 
2004-06-23 01:53:19 PM  
I agree that the USA Today is fluff, but for 50 cents it usually beats the hell out of the local daily. I usually go for a $1 New York Times if I've got enough change - which I don't typically.

Looks like I'll be reading the local rot more and more unfortunately.
 
2004-06-23 01:53:24 PM  
Does Firefox have some sort of utility on it that searches online forums for the word "popup" and posts some inane comment about not know what popups are because you use Firefox? Just wondering.

Anyway, I agree with sos, USA Today is worthless. I can't even stand to read it for more than 5 minutes at a hotel , and I would never actually purchase a copy, regardless of price.
 
2004-06-23 01:53:52 PM  
2004-06-23 01:48:10 PM sos

USA Today is a worthless newspaper anyway. I would never even pay 50 cents for a copy, let alone 75 cents. The only time I read it is when I am in a hotel and I get a free copy, or someone has left one somewhere and I am bored.


That copy you picked up wasn't 'free'. Your hotel paid for a couple hundred subscriptions to it. THAT'S why it has the highest circulation in the country.

Still a crappy paper...
 
2004-06-23 01:54:22 PM  
So how is this ironic?
 
2004-06-23 01:55:44 PM  
The only time I have ever paid for this was while overseas, and I was craving news in English and some sports news not about Soccer or the Cricket match that had been going on for a fortnight.
 
2004-06-23 01:56:20 PM  
sos

Seems like a better design would have been to allow the mechanism to be changed. They don't replace the mechanism in a Coke machine when the price changes, they reprogram it.

They've already changed the mechanisms in all the boxes in my neck of the woods. Instead of just 2 quarters or 5 dimes, you can use any combination of nickels, dimes, and quarters now. I reckon they'll just turn a key or something when they want to shift to 75 cents a paper.
 
sos
2004-06-23 01:57:41 PM  
HomerSamson113 True, but it's essentially free to me. If I left it on the doorstep, the price of my room would not go down by 50 cents. So I pick it up, look at the pretty pie charts, skim through quickly and realize there's nothing good, then throw it on the table and turn on the tv.
 
2004-06-23 01:58:01 PM  
USA TODAY will raise its cover price from 50 cents to 75 cents...
...average daily circulation of 2.3 million...
...company will spend $10 million on new coin mechanisms...


They'll pay for those new coin mechanisms in 18 days of selling the paper.

/did the math
/don't know why
 
2004-06-23 02:01:08 PM  
:P I like USA today.. they're pretty balanced.
 
2004-06-23 02:02:35 PM  
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Hold on now, only one post so far about how this is not really ironic? Come on, you people are slacking off! Let's get with it!
 
2004-06-23 02:02:50 PM  
It's ironic because you wouldn't expect a newsource to run a story from ANOTHER news source about the former raising its prices.
 
2004-06-23 02:02:54 PM  
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As this pie chart clearly shows, USAToday is crap.
(The red portion indicates pointless pseudo-journalism, the yellow advertising, and the bluish-purple indicates pie charts)
/mmmm pie
 
2004-06-23 02:03:37 PM  
It is *not* ironic. Not at all.
 
2004-06-23 02:03:55 PM  
Does Firefox have some sort of utility on it that searches online forums for the word "popup" and posts some inane comment about not know what popups are because you use Firefox? Just wondering.

Install it and find out.

/Non tabbed browsers are just so.... nineties.
 
2004-06-23 02:04:53 PM  
(The red portion indicates pointless pseudo-journalism, the yellow advertising, and the bluish-purple indicates pie charts)

Umm, I think the red part is the advertising.
 
sos
2004-06-23 02:06:55 PM  
Smookyfufu :P I like USA today.. they're pretty balanced.

They may be balanced, but it's hard to take a side when you lack content.
 
2004-06-23 02:07:18 PM  
koniver

Exactly! Mehness.

Anywho, the paper is good for umm...starting fires =)
 
2004-06-23 02:08:23 PM  
I agree with pretty much everyone here that USA Today is worthless. I work in the hotel business and rarely read it even though it's free. The rag is written for third graders. Reading the letters to the editor gives one an insight as the the level of literacy and intelligence of the average USA Today subscriber.

The Los Angeles Times has started a push to get the hotel market in Southern California by offering free copies to hotels in place of USA Today for one year - no strings attached. Thankfully, my hotel took them up on their offer.
 
2004-06-23 02:09:18 PM  
Ah, the McPaper. My guess is the majority of the 2.3 million subscribers who aren't hotel chains are the same group of idiots who keep Jay Leno and reality tv going, and patronize Wal-Mart.

Wait...Wal-Mart...literacy...

Never mind...
 
2004-06-23 02:11:03 PM  
Stuck in rural Minnesota as I am, and far from my beloved home of Philly, I look forward each day to getting my USA Today. It is a nice summary of national and international news and the entertainment section and sports sections can not be beat. The NCAA basketball tournament coverage done by the USA Today has to be the best in the country.

For 75 cents, this is still a great deal. I cant think of many other things that have not raised their prices in 20 years!
 
2004-06-23 02:11:52 PM  
IRONIC: Clarence Carter dying from a stroke.
 
2004-06-23 02:14:37 PM  
Inconceivable!
 
2004-06-23 02:15:00 PM  
mutt: The Los Angeles Times has started a push to get the hotel market in Southern California by offering free copies to hotels in place of USA Today for one year - no strings attached. Thankfully, my hotel took them up on their offer.

I've noticed that when I've stayed in LA. If only other hotels would do that. I'd much rather get the New York Times or Washington Post or something than that comic masquerading as a newspaper.
 
2004-06-23 02:15:17 PM  
Pie charts are, by percentage, statistically proportional to the numerical values represented by the divisions, clearly sectioning off the chart into pie shaped pieces.
 
2004-06-23 02:17:26 PM  
this is almost as ironic as saying "Scientists believe fiberglass sharks will help save endangered turtles"
 
2004-06-23 02:17:28 PM  
It *is* ironic:

Irony:

3 a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result.
 
2004-06-23 02:17:37 PM  
We're Eating More Beets!
 
2004-06-23 02:19:13 PM  
jayburd101467

Would it not be expected for a news publication to publish a story from news wire?
 
2004-06-23 02:19:51 PM  
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2004-06-23 02:20:01 PM  
Wait...Wal-Mart...literacy...

Yes, it's always funny to see the selection of books in the Wal Mart book section. Not really "ha ha" funny, but more "there is no hope for humanity" funny.
 
2004-06-23 02:21:32 PM  
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iron knee
 
2004-06-23 02:25:03 PM  
Would it not be expected for a news publication to publish a story from news wire?

Not if said story was negative PR for said news publication. Hence, irony.
 
2004-06-23 02:25:41 PM  
shoot, the best newspaper in Florida is still only 25cents.

which is way better than the crapfest in my town known as the Ocala star-banner.
 
2004-06-23 02:26:37 PM  
doh...the best pape in florida is the St.Pete Times.

its got colored comics.
 
2004-06-23 02:28:55 PM  
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2004-06-23 02:29:45 PM  
No it's not ironic... that definition you pulled out doesn't show that this is irony. Now, if USA Today denied their prices going up and printed the articleor printed an article calling foul on another paper raising prices while they also raised prices... that would be ironic.

/ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife is not ironic
 
2004-06-23 02:33:21 PM  
jayburd101467
Not if said story was negative PR for said news publication. Hence, irony.


Why is this bad PR? The story states that the decision was made based on consumer research, not to mention that it is the first price change in nearly 20 years.

/seem like pretty reasonable and nonthreatening reasons to raise the cover price.
 
2004-06-23 02:35:31 PM  
Farking Gannett, they own everyting. In Iowa(fully expects a few Iowa is boreing jokes)they own all the major papers, and all but one of the independent papers in Des Moines.
 
2004-06-23 02:35:42 PM  
Not to mention information that might be beneficial to share with consumers.
 
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