It was merely the atmospheric effects of the dancing Shatner.

I just wanted to see film of the lights; I didn't want to see an example of how Flash can be used to win an award for artistic merit.

(It was very nicely done, but I'm too busy to wade through the interface.)

here is the video:
http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/index.html

Yay! A chance for me to be pedantic!
*ahem*

"Yes, of course they were UFO's. The question you want to ask is 'were they extraterrestrial in origin'?"

I almost said 'alien in origen', but given the source of 'the box', the re-enactment definitely is going to be alien in origin.

What was in this mystery box ?

This whole thing looks like another Blair Witch attempt.

Hmmmmmmm

all that flash work for....nothing....this better be good when they reveal it...or is that what they want us to think...


Mizman

www.mizman.net

"An" UFO?

What a piece of crap for a website. I don't even know where to start with this abomination of the Web. Who ever designed this should seriously spend some time here.

That Flash video sucked ass bigtime. I'm sorry, but I have no idea what this Flash designer was thinking when he came up with this. That was the most useless GUI I've ever seen. The screen was so cluttered with irrelevant crap, I couldn't find anything. Whenever I clicked on something, I was never sure what I was looking at afterwards, save something that reminded me of a company promotional video. And where were the lights? I looked all over, but all I could find was a poor excuse for a Flash animation.

The HTML version was a little better, but not by much. At least it had links along the bottom for easy navigation, but I still couldn't find what I was looking for.

The sadest thing about this was I only managed to find the lights when I gave up with this site and went to the link provided by WetOrgazm (thank you). So, this begs the question, why does a site that's completely dedicated to this phenomenon not have this video, but general news web site does? Whoever made this site should have spent less time showing off their art skills, and more time worrying about how to give their information in a clear and concise manner.

Just an addendum to my last rant. When I right clicked on a link, a dialog box popped up in front of me informing me that I was not permitted to steal their source code, as it was copyrighted. Um....yeah, whatever. You guys can keep your crappy source code. If I steal something, it's going to have a lot more thought put into it that this piece of crap.

LOL.

We have really big news...but we cant tell it to you now.
Just build up hype about our website until we're good and ready.

Bullocks

Did someone say "Phoenix"? Who? Me?

Blair Witch-esque is RIGHT! This is an annoying website,but still, I joined the email list to see what these hucksters are up to next.

Worst...Website....Ever

Anybody that thinks disabling right clicking prevents getting HTML code is a moron. Disabling JavaScript fixes that, and in the worse case, you telnet in for it. If the browser can display it, you can get the code.

So it's the website that's stupid,
and not you, right?



Try looking for the root directory on google, Einstein.


Oh yeah,

Your Welcome!

(i'd give her a...) WETORGASM !! thanks for that link...did anyone find out what was in the box !?!?!
I couldnt find sh!t on that site except for the same story about the mexicans and their nephew.

Well, I was was interested, but I ran out of patience looking at silly Flash videos. I hope it was interesting.

click on view, then source. whoever put that right click copyright bull$hit is an idiot.

Can you say mylar ballons with a ground based spot light on them over a car dealership? I've done this before back in the early 80's. Please...

i bet it's just part of that game Majestic......

I solved the jumble picture on the site. I think this will answer a lot of questions. Clearly, what

we're dealing with here is some sort of meat creature that lives in a box. It may be wearing goggles.

Punkr10426

Lemme guess, you use AOL, Right?



Boy I wish you knew something about computers, then you might get that joke.

a few years ago I saw a show on the Discovery channel that featured these lights.

The morning after videotaping the lights from his balcony, the cameraman videotaped the area where the lights had appeared, this time, in daylight. The two videotapes were given to some computer scientist who combined the two, and it showed how the lights didn't dissappear, but fell behind the mountains in the background.

In the same area where the US Army was conducting maneuvers. The lights turned out to be flares.

SFOTW: Thank you for educating me on your infinite wisdom of the Internet. I am humbled by your knowledge of the 'root directory', and I bow down to your mighty presence. You are truly an inspiration to us all. And, since you've managed to use the words 'root directory' in a semi-logical fashion, I will now being filing the paper work to make you a God!

Unfortunately, your Holiness, you've managed to miss my point completely. I'm not complaining about how the web site is being hosted. I'm complaining about the content of the web site, two completely different things. If the content of your web site completely sucks donkey ass, it doesn't matter where you set your root directory.

Perhaps his Highness would prefer to think about what he's saying, rather than spouting out technical jargon in a vain attempt at sounding quasi-intelligent.

Well, I can add a few more entries to list of people who just don't get it.

Quadraton
Punkr10426


People who get it,

EVERYONE ELSE

Complete tripe.

As far as I know, flares don't hang in the air for hours.
This site may be a load of shiat, but it had me kinda creeped out for the first few minutes.

It's like someone is unravelling a big cable knit sweater, but someone keeps knitting and knitting and knitting and knitting.....

I saw that show too, Morbid_Martin, and it was pretty convincing. They did some 10th grade trig from the position of the camera against a daylight image of the Camelback mountains to show that the lights were simply falling from the sky.

I'm in AZ (my in-laws live very close to where the video was taken) and I remember the news stories. I certainly haven't heard anything about the lights being up there for hours, but if you have a source on that, Sburbncwby, I'm willing to take a look. I really doubt it, though, since I'd expect there to be hundreds and hundreds of videos of a phenomena that lasted that long over a major city. I've never seen more than a couple videos.

This site has all the signs of a bad Fox special (ie When Alien Lights Attack!). The funny thing is that it looks like even Fox isn't buying this one.

This was on Fox, I think it was last spring.

Pretty convincing? You guys just believe it as they tell you huh?

Have you ever seen a flare falling? Or several at once?

There are so many things pointing towards them not being flares. Just because they disapeared behind the mountain doesn't mean anything, other than the fact that they went behind the mountain.

Now don't get me wrong here, i'm not saying "yes, they were aliens from space" just that they are still UFO's.

"An" UFO?--Quarlie

Say it outlound quarlie, this is totally correct.

An unidentifed flying object.

Manhigh- We have really big news...but we cant tell it to you now. Just build up hype about our website until we're good and ready.

Sound like anything else recently?

I liked the list of keywords: Phoenix, Lights, Mystery, revealed, incredible, discovery, UFO, sightings, unresolved, film, space, Arizona, ship, conspiracy, miracle, church, Daniel Pace, God, Bible, suspense, documentary, real, reality, movie, film, Slamdance

heheh... Slamdance

They claimed things would be updated soon, and that was as of somewhere around February 2001
....how many more months until we find out the big news? It's like "I have a huge secret, and you it will change your life, and it 100% involves you, but I can't tell you" If they can't tell us yet, why not wait until they can tell us, then make the damn website. Bastards

Certain types of flares, the kind dropped from airplanes, are suspended from parachutes, so they hang in the air longer, to lengthen the time they light up a battlefield.

" Tre_bumpn : "An" UFO?--Quarlie

Say it outloud quarlie, this is totally correct. "
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Then it should be U . F . O .
not an " youeffooh " , SO Quarlie is correct !

Yup... movie... give yourselves a Gold Star.

God I need a life...

http://members.fortunecity.com/finagirl/whoisdanielpace/id3.html

Daniel Pace is an independent film director that inspired me to pursue my own goals in life. When I saw "14 ways to wear lipstick" at the Slamdance Film Festival I realized that I was witnessing a great Director in the making. His next film, "The Phoenix Lights Mystery", is going to have people talking for a long time.

...

I am also going to find out as much as I can about his next film "The Phoenix Lights Mystery". I know that he is being so secretive about it that he only gives actors part of the script and that only him knows the ending. Not even the producer knows what really happens in the movie.

I never saw though lights, but had a bunch of friends who did. I remember seeing them the next day pretty freaked out.

....oh boy. i give up. you can just keep on thinking they were flares.

Ok, well if somebody else took the time to i will also.

Korzeniowski (thats hard to type) covered most everything other than the guy (perhaps it was Bruce Maccabee) who did a light analysis on the "flares" in pheonix and a real flare. The color spectrums were very different. The ones from pheonix if i recall correctly were odd in themselves. Not matching up with much of anything.

damn bastards, i hate when pussies keep stuff to themselves to act like they're important. I'd like to go over to that f$ck's house and beat the answers out of him, not because I particularly care what the lights are, but because the a-hole is hoarding information in a masturbatory exercise to make himself feel important. asshole. hey wait, I live about 5 miles from him...

All I have to say is this: even if this box is a hoax of some kind, the big reveal of what was (supposedly) in it could end up being pretty funny. Assuming, of course, these people have a more fine-tuned sense of humor than they do Flash skills.

And I don't see why the idea of life on other planets seems so ludicrous to some people. It's highly possible; just not very likely that a civilization with the ability to contact us would even know we were here, or want to if they did. I have to agree with Korzeniowski (damn, that IS hard to type), however, about self proclaimed "UFOlogists" being nutcases.

Heh heh heh, sorry, that should read "MOST self proclaimed "UFOlogists"". <:(

Who the hell wants to look at a website that is 2 inches by 7 inches on the screen? Only dumbasses make their website look like that.

"Korzeniowski (thats hard to type) covered most everything other than the guy (perhaps it was Bruce Maccabee) who did a light analysis on the "flares" in pheonix and a real flare. The color spectrums were very different. The ones from pheonix if i recall correctly were odd in themselves. Not matching up with much of anything."

FYI this "analysis" was completely meaningless. The guy was a self-proclaimed expert, but video cameras don't record color anywhere near accurately enough for such a check to be useful (except in the minds of UFO groupies). It would be stranger if it did match actually. Reminds me of the people who think the diamond shaped lens flairs that cheap cameras make are also UFOs.

These lights were pretty clearly flares behind the mountains (which are too dark to see in the video). One program about this did a video overlay and you could see that the lights slowly fell and disappeared exaclty where the mountain tops would be.

That in no way proves them to be flares. If they were dropped from a plane (as Korzeniowski stated) how would each one maintain the distance from another. There is nothing to keep the formation. I'm not going to try and convince you of anything, i'm not convinced myself. But the flare excuse just doesn't hold up.

Now that you mention that about the spectrum analyzer i do remember them saying the video wasn't enough to get a reading. It has been awhile since i've read or seen anything related to the pheonix lights, because it is pretty clear to me that they are still u.f.o.'s. Not ufo's as in aliens, but as unidentified objects in the sky. There simply isn't enough evidence to say without a doubt what they were.

What really gets me is similar formations and lights have been sighted elsewhere.

Swamp Gas!

"how would each one maintain the distance from another. There is nothing to keep the formation. I'm not going to try and convince you of anything, i'm not convinced myself. But the flare excuse just doesn't hold up."

Um, what do you think flares do? They're just heat and light source under a parachute - heat from the flare help maintain lift so they fall very slow. Why shouldn't they maintain the same distance from each other? From the video they all look to be falling slowly in a row - exactly as a series of flares released from planes would.

If you're talking about all the eye-witness reports of craft, well - people see what they like. You get the same kind of reports any time anything even slightly unusual appears in the sky.