FYI, the aircraft is not a jet, it is a turboprop. But it is crazy to spend that kind of money...the city must be controled by democrates.

But the police spokesman said the department didn't have many options when it acquired the Pilatus PC-12 Spectre single-engine plane in September. That's when funding became available from a voter-approved 2006 public-safety bond, which also paid for a crime lab and police stations.

So, basically, the citizens were somehow convinced to give these guys waaaaaaaay more money than they actually needed, and these guys are now obligated to blow that wad of cash on SOMETHING?

guppyjones: FYI, the aircraft is not a jet, it is a turboprop. But it is crazy to spend that kind of money...the city must be controled by democrates.

FAIL.

House of Tards: guppyjones: FYI, the aircraft is not a jet, it is a turboprop. But it is crazy to spend that kind of money...the city must be controled by democrates.

FAIL.

Damocles?

guppyjones: the city must be controled by democrates.


Oh those crazy Classical Greeks. What will they get up to next?

Oooh! ooh! it gets better.

Yesterday and today, they had a 3 million dollar air show in Tucson.

What recession?

The 'jet' in question. (new window)

That four finned jet on the front will provide smooth cruising and great fuel economy.

guppyjones: FYI, the aircraft is not a jet, it is a turboprop. But it is crazy to spend that kind of money...the city must be controled by democrates.

That's what I had in mind.

Whatthefark: The 'jet' in question. (new window)

That four finned jet on the front will provide smooth cruising and great fuel economy.

It's not a jet, it is a gas turbine that contains compressors, combustors, and a turbine, and is much closer in technology to a jet than it is to a piston engine.

It's also completely outrageous for Phoenix to be purchasing this at any time, much less right now.

They've got a lot of enemy borders to contend with:

The Southern Mexicans.
The Eastern New Mexicans.
The Western Hippies in California who also have a flanking corner in the Eastern corner at Colorado.
The Northern Mormons in Utah who are not Christian.
And Nevada in the Northwest which is home to the city of sin.

Most rational thinking intolerant people would be rightly concerned.

Subby: "It was a tough few years, but in 2010 Phoenix Police can afford to fly their surveillance jets again, so they just bought another one for $4M. WTF? Why do the police need a jet that can cross the city in two minutes?"

Because that's why subby. (new window)

How about, not spending the money?

The clue is in your own headline: "surveillance".

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like,... Victory!

Joce678: The clue is in your own headline: "surveillance".

Isn't the whole idea of surveillance to go SLOWER and LOWER so you can see the bad guys and criminal behavior you're trying to interdict?

Unless you're flying the SR-71, or an Aurora hypersonic jet, but then you've got camera equipment that costs more than the entire city of Phoenix.

guppyjones: democrates

Democrates? The lesser-known intellectual member of Pythagoras' cult?

It's a cover story. Ever since the "Phoenix Lights" incident we've been engaged in a full scale battle with UFOs, alien abductions and widespread anal probings. You don't really think Sheriff Joe's alien sweeps are just for Mexicans?

Bureaucracies are cancers. They grow to absorb as much power as possible. It's the goal. I'm just surprised they didn't buy two!

Why do police have to do so much surveillance? Isn't that just a fancier word for spying on people?

"It's a great asset to have," Haenggi said. "It has tremendous capabilities, and it can do a lot of things you can't do with a helicopter."

except, like, hover

Krispy Kreme.

ZipSplat: guppyjones: democrates

Democrates? The lesser-known intellectual member of Pythagoras' cult?

Maybe he meant Demetrocles (^, NSFW language, blah blah)

Chicago needs a aircraft carrier
/You know when the pizza and hotdogs wars happen

Loucifer: It's a cover story. Ever since the "Phoenix Lights" incident we've been engaged in a full scale battle with UFOs, alien abductions and widespread anal probings. You don't really think Sheriff Joe's alien sweeps are just for Mexicans?

I knew there was something queer about that fat slob.

PC-12 = Not A Jet

/hot like phoenix

They fly higher, easier to control and don't normally fly sideways distracting the pilot from what's in front of them.

Link (new window)

It was a tough few years, but in 2010 Fark Headline Police can afford to fly their judgment jets to the inspiration for this inaccurate but timely headline: Link (new window)

Deadite: They fly higher, easier to control and don't normally fly sideways distracting the pilot from what's in front of them.

Link (new window)

From that article:

When asked if that suspect could be help criminally liable for the deaths of the men on the two aircraft, Phoenix Police Chief Jack Harris said forcefully, "Yes."

WTF no doubt it's a dumbass move to run from the cops, but how is it his fault that story-chasing news choppers smashed into each other?

Back to the main topic, I don't buy that their hands are that tied with the bonds that they have to blow the money. Can't drive prisoners? Actually need aircraft surveillance? My ass, they got this crap stamped when things were flush and are laughing at taxpayers now while they play with their new toys.

guppyjones: FYI, the aircraft is not a jet, it is a turboprop. But it is crazy to spend that kind of money...the city must be controled by democrates.

Self pwnage.

When you come into a forum all butthurt about politics to correct the submitter you should really farking proofread.

You gotta be kidding me.

To scare the shiat out of the middle class?

Well, they had to replace this:

Relatively Obscure: But the police spokesman said the department didn't have many options when it acquired the Pilatus PC-12 Spectre single-engine plane in September. That's when funding became available from a voter-approved 2006 public-safety bond, which also paid for a crime lab and police stations.

So, basically, the citizens were somehow convinced to give these guys waaaaaaaay more money than they actually needed, and these guys are now obligated to blow that wad of cash on SOMETHING?

This. Just because you have the bond money doesn't mean you have to use it. Sure, I guess it sucks that you can't use it for personnel, but that doesn't mean that you're obligated to just spend the money.

Honest Bender: Subby: "It was a tough few years, but in 2010 Phoenix Police can afford to fly their surveillance jets again, so they just bought another one for $4M. WTF? Why do the police need a jet that can cross the city in two minutes?"

Because that's why subby. (new window)

Full of WIN.

Suddenly, it all seems like a good idea.

Wait.. what?

Just 3 weeks ago the Phoenix police were crying, "Oh but if you cut our budget we're going to have to lay-off officers!!" Link (new window)

Awesome. Happy to see corruption alive and well!

WTF is wrong with Arizona? They seem to live in a police state, and they seem to enjoy it.

Couldn't the police switch to UAVs? I don't mean the Predator or Global Hawk - surely a smaller, cheaper one can be developed for local law enforcement, if one hasn't already. And maybe they could just charter aircraft for prisoner extradition on a case-by-case basis.

buckler: WTF is wrong with Arizona? They seem to live in a police state, and they seem to enjoy it.

I think the citizens are as crazy as Florida's; only less populated since there is no beach and a huge 'haze' cloud (desert, and commuter town related).

/if you can cook an egg in a non-stick skillet that's sitting on your driveway, it's time to move.

I am amazed that this is allowed to happen. I live in Tempe, and I have a number of friends who lost teaching jobs, had massive paycuts, or otherwise teach in overcrowded classrooms.

I think the real problem is the fact that with the explosion in the population of snow-bird retirees in this area, the voter mentality has shifted to "I already paid taxes for my kids to go to school in the upper midwest. Fark your kids and their teachers."

This mentality coupled with a general fear of minorities by this same population spurs this kind of police-state activity.

/Kind of a vicious endless cycle

lousifer: It's a cover story. Ever since the "Phoenix Lights" incident we've been engaged in a full scale battle with UFOs, alien abductions and widespread anal probings. You don't really think Sheriff Joe's alien sweeps are just for Mexicans?

It's "Chariots of the Gods," man; they practically own South America.

feckingmorons: House of Tards: guppyjones: FYI, the aircraft is not a jet, it is a turboprop. But it is crazy to spend that kind of money...the city must be controled by democrates.

FAIL.

Damocles?

Dude, the Doom of Damocles is no farking joke.

Unbelievable. The reasons they give are simply ridiculous. Transportation of detectives? If they need to go to a major city, they can't use a commercial flight? Or if its in a rural area, they can't hitch a ride with a chopper or drive to the damn place? Their time is soooo important as city detectives they need to jet to a location ASAP?

And transportation of prisoners back to Phoenix? A converted school bus with iron bars welded to the windows not good enough? I need to commit a crime in Phoenix and flee the county because I never got to ride in a corporate jet.

Hal5423: I am amazed that this is allowed to happen. I live in Tempe, and I have a number of friends who lost teaching jobs, had massive paycuts, or otherwise teach in overcrowded classrooms.

I think the real problem is the fact that with the explosion in the population of snow-bird retirees in this area, the voter mentality has shifted to "I already paid taxes for my kids to go to school in the upper midwest. Fark your kids and their teachers."

This mentality coupled with a general fear of minorities by this same population spurs this kind of police-state activity.

/Kind of a vicious endless cycle

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Remember a couple of decades ago when a group in Sun City tried circulating a petition to get some legislation through exempting them from paying for schools because they are a retirement community?

just2quixotic: Remember a couple of decades ago when a group in Sun City tried circulating a petition to get some legislation through exempting them from paying for schools because they are a retirement community?

Well, I just moved here a couple years ago, but I am not surprised in the least. I think it's only gotten worse since the area has practically tripled in population since 1987.

I think they just want to get to the donut shop rrreeeeaaaaalllly fast.

guppyjones: FYI, the aircraft is not a jet, it is a turboprop. But it is crazy to spend that kind of money...the city must be controled by democrates.

I don't know who this Democrates guy is, but Phoenix is definitely controlled by Republicans.

Anyway, when you have a metro area that's over 1600 sq. mi. that has a lot of security problems you kinda need something like this.

They need it so that when Allison finally sees the criminal's real face in her dream, Scanlon can go rescue Ariel from falling into the well without waking Joe up.

Well, this does seem to tip the tactical balance of power in favor of Phoenix over Tucson.

I say they use that fancy plane to do a few strafing runs against Tucson and demand their immediate unconditional surrender.