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Britney Spear's Speculum 2010-03-18 04:39:06 PM  
The only cool semi-quote from GB2 that I got to use was when I was in grad school and my professor was talking about what would be on our tests. He said "I'm not gonna ask you the atomic weight of cobalt or anything like that."

I blurted out "58.9"

I scared the class.

 
pxlboy [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 04:52:45 PM  
Britney Spear's Speculum: The only cool semi-quote from GB2 that I got to use was when I was in grad school and my professor was talking about what would be on our tests. He said "I'm not gonna ask you the atomic weight of cobalt or anything like that."

I blurted out "58.9"

I scared the class.


nice

 
spidermann [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 05:23:07 PM  
I think Slimer may have eaten the article, cause all I got was a wall of white. No text whatsoever.

/no ad-block crap
//Safari Mac, latest
///wtf?

 
ne2d [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 05:24:52 PM  
spidermann: I think Slimer may have eaten the article, cause all I got was a wall of white. No text whatsoever.

/no ad-block crap
//Safari Mac, latest
///wtf?


Yeah, I can't see it either.

 
toddalmighty [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 05:25:41 PM  
ne2d: spidermann: I think Slimer may have eaten the article, cause all I got was a wall of white. No text whatsoever.

/no ad-block crap
//Safari Mac, latest
///wtf?

Yeah, I can't see it either.


Me three

 
seventypercent [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 05:57:58 PM  
toddalmighty: Me three

I feel bad for you guys. It's farking glorious.

 
Uchiha_Cycliste 2010-03-18 06:23:49 PM  
toddalmighty: ne2d: spidermann: I think Slimer may have eaten the article, cause all I got was a wall of white. No text whatsoever.

/no ad-block crap
//Safari Mac, latest
///wtf?

Yeah, I can't see it either.

Me three


Meh, you ain't missing much, I wouldn't touch that article with a 20 meter cattle prod.

 
BuckTurgidson 2010-03-18 06:31:17 PM  
No story in link.

I clicked on "News and Features", and found the article under "Web Site Libel Part II".

Five sentences, no pic, no link to the website in question.

*SLAP*

 
madmann 2010-03-18 06:45:57 PM  
TFA:

Web Site Libel, Round II
by Peter Galuszka

Margaret J. Freund is appealing a Richmond Circuit Court judge's decision to strike down the lawsuit she filed against a Richmond Web developer and several Internet domain firms, in which she charges that she was defamed.

The Richmond real estate executive sought $400,000 in damages from Brian Mount, an employee of Richmond-based INM United, accusing him of creating a spoof Web site featuring Freund in a demonic pose with a vivid quote from Vigo, a villain in the "Ghostbusters II" movie, including skulls, blood and evil.

She also sued Web companies GoDaddy.com for serving as host for the Web site and HostforWeb for helping manage it. The judge ruled March 4 that the Web site's characterization of Freund was opinion-based and not defamatory. Freund filed an appeal with the Supreme Court of Virginia on March 10.


Mandatory Me-Being-A-Dick: This has fark-all to do with the First Amendment. Disputes between two citizens can never be First Amendment cases. Why is this so hard to get?

 
Uchiha_Cycliste 2010-03-18 06:57:23 PM  
madmann: TFA:

Web Site Libel, Round II
by Peter Galuszka

Margaret J. Freund is appealing a Richmond Circuit Court judge's decision to strike down the lawsuit she filed against a Richmond Web developer and several Internet domain firms, in which she charges that she was defamed.

The Richmond real estate executive sought $400,000 in damages from Brian Mount, an employee of Richmond-based INM United, accusing him of creating a spoof Web site featuring Freund in a demonic pose with a vivid quote from Vigo, a villain in the "Ghostbusters II" movie, including skulls, blood and evil.

She also sued Web companies GoDaddy.com for serving as host for the Web site and HostforWeb for helping manage it. The judge ruled March 4 that the Web site's characterization of Freund was opinion-based and not defamatory. Freund filed an appeal with the Supreme Court of Virginia on March 10.

Mandatory Me-Being-A-Dick: This has fark-all to do with the First Amendment. Disputes between two citizens can never be First Amendment cases. Why is this so hard to get?


What if person A is asking a gov. authority to restrict person B's freedom of expression?

 
madmann 2010-03-18 07:07:41 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: Mandatory Me-Being-A-Dick: This has fark-all to do with the First Amendment. Disputes between two citizens can never be First Amendment cases. Why is this so hard to get?

What if person A is asking a gov. authority to restrict person B's freedom of expression?


Not purely a dispute between two citizens, now, is it?

Seriously, though, I get tired of people yelling "FIRST AMENDMENT" every time someone gets criticized. It's not a farkin' Willy Wonka pass. To bring it up in non-government cases shows a basic misunderstanding of what the Bill of Rights is even supposed to do. Do they not teach this shiat anymore? Damn, people, it's not that long, read it once.

 
Uchiha_Cycliste 2010-03-18 07:16:53 PM  
As long as we are farking up amendments meanings...
pugetsoundblogs.com

 
Uchiha_Cycliste 2010-03-18 07:18:24 PM  
madmann: Not purely a dispute between two citizens, now, is it?

I guess the gov guy is just an agent of person A, and my example was stupid... poo.

 
RoxtarRyan [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 08:32:03 PM  
You guys who aren't seeing it:

It.Was.Awesome.

/the best part was when the two chicks double down on each other at the end

 
Psychohazard 2010-03-18 08:50:49 PM  
Okay, so my girlfriend sleeps above the covers.

/ Yes, I know it's not from part 2.

 
RonEdwards 2010-03-18 08:59:41 PM  
"I had part of a slinky as a kid... I straightened it."

/best quote.

 
AnotherDisillusionedCollegeStudent 2010-03-18 09:01:55 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: What if person A is asking a gov. authority to restrict person B's freedom of expression?

"Congress shall make no law..."

Defamation is a common law tort. States can make laws that brush up against the First Amendment if it meets the strict scrutiny test - compelling government interest, narrowly tailored, and least restrictive means. Defamation statutes almost always meet all three tests.

 
Kumana Wanalaia 2010-03-18 09:02:09 PM  
pressthebuttons.typepad.com

On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood. What was will be, what is will be no more. Now is the season of evil.

 
wippit 2010-03-18 09:04:23 PM  
♪♫ Your love... is lifting me higher... ♫♪

 
Hatman013 2010-03-18 09:05:48 PM  
wippit: ♪♫ Your love... is lifting me higher... ♫♪

It sounds exactly like Jackie, that's fantastic.

 
escherblacksmith 2010-03-18 09:07:32 PM  
why am I covered in this goo?

 
wippit 2010-03-18 09:09:50 PM  
escherblacksmith: why am I covered in this goo?

www.nopokemeo.org

 
studebaker hoch [recently expired TotalFark] 2010-03-18 09:11:27 PM  
wat

 
The All-Powerful Atheismo 2010-03-18 09:11:57 PM  
www.ourkitchensink.com

 
MadSkillz 2010-03-18 09:14:45 PM  
RoxtarRyan: You guys who aren't seeing it:

It.Was.Awesome.

/the best part was when the two chicks double down on each other at the end


OH COME ON! :)

 
invictus2 2010-03-18 09:17:14 PM  
escherblacksmith: why am I covered in this goo?

images.chron.com

 
GaryTheEMT 2010-03-18 09:19:36 PM  
Two in the trap, Ready to go
We be fast and they be slow.

dnrta

 
Ken at Popehat 2010-03-18 09:19:53 PM  
madmann: TFA:


Mandatory Me-Being-A-Dick: This has fark-all to do with the First Amendment. Disputes between two citizens can never be First Amendment cases. Why is this so hard to get?


You have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about. You clearly have never read any defamation case. You clearly have less than a junior-high-school education in basic American civic principles. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 
ciderczar 2010-03-18 09:21:19 PM  
Ken at Popehat: madmann: TFA:


Mandatory Me-Being-A-Dick: This has fark-all to do with the First Amendment. Disputes between two citizens can never be First Amendment cases. Why is this so hard to get?

You have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about. You clearly have never read any defamation case. You clearly have less than a junior-high-school education in basic American civic principles. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


You're oppressing his freedom of speech you commie monster!

 
2theruns 2010-03-18 09:25:09 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: madmann: TFA:

Web Site Libel, Round II
by Peter Galuszka

Margaret J. Freund is appealing a Richmond Circuit Court judge's decision to strike down the lawsuit she filed against a Richmond Web developer and several Internet domain firms, in which she charges that she was defamed.

The Richmond real estate executive sought $400,000 in damages from Brian Mount, an employee of Richmond-based INM United, accusing him of creating a spoof Web site featuring Freund in a demonic pose with a vivid quote from Vigo, a villain in the "Ghostbusters II" movie, including skulls, blood and evil.

She also sued Web companies GoDaddy.com for serving as host for the Web site and HostforWeb for helping manage it. The judge ruled March 4 that the Web site's characterization of Freund was opinion-based and not defamatory. Freund filed an appeal with the Supreme Court of Virginia on March 10.

Mandatory Me-Being-A-Dick: This has fark-all to do with the First Amendment. Disputes between two citizens can never be First Amendment cases. Why is this so hard to get?

What if person A is asking a gov. authority to restrict person B's freedom of expression?


Sometimes shiat happens, someone has to deal with it, and who ya gonna call?

 
JessicaRaven 2010-03-18 09:26:29 PM  
escherblacksmith: why am I covered in this drippings with goo?

FIFY

Where in the hell are you from anyway, Johnny?

 
eeeleeet [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 09:27:47 PM  
wippit: ♪♫ Your love... is lifting me higher... ♫♪

What's the name of that song?

/love it.

 
RoyFokker'sGhost 2010-03-18 09:29:00 PM  
madmann:
Mandatory Me-Being-A-Dick: This has fark-all to do with the First Amendment. Disputes between two citizens can never be First Amendment cases. Why is this so hard to get?


You know how I know you're gay? Becasue you obviously don't read Hustler.

Linked for your pleasure (new window)

 
dewihafta 2010-03-18 09:32:43 PM  
Kumana Wanalaia: On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood. What was will be, what is will be no more. Now is the season of evil.

Eeveel?

 
Virtuous Pagan [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 09:34:06 PM  
JessicaRaven: escherblacksmith: why am I covered in this drippings with goo?

FIFY

Where in the hell are you from anyway, Johnny?


Ze upper vest side.

/Not getting a green card with my attitude.

 
jingks 2010-03-18 09:34:16 PM  
wippit: ♪♫ Your love... is lifting me higher... ♫♪

♪♫ Found about Vigo, the master of evil
Try to battle my boys? That's not legal
(Oh-we-oh) They're in control
(Oh-we-oh) Y-Y-Ya know it ♫♪

/ loved that album

 
She turned me into a newt! [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 09:36:49 PM  
So the 7 little dwarves had a limited partnership in a small mining operation. And one day a beautiful princess came to live with them. And they bartered housekeeping services for room and board, which was a real good deal for them because they didn't have to withhold social security or income tax or nothin', which you're really not supposed to do, you see, but for the purpose of the story, I think it's okay.

 
TheManofPA 2010-03-18 09:37:04 PM  
"That's right, she has no dick"

/yes, it's the first one
//it still works

 
Farker Posey 2010-03-18 09:37:14 PM  
madmann: TFA:
The judge ruled March 4 that the Web site's characterization of Freund was opinion-based and not defamatory.


If my hands weren't tied by the unalterable fetters of the law, then I would invoke the tradition of our illustrious forebears, reach back to a purer, sterner justice, and have you BURNED AT THE STAKE!

 
NightOwl2255 2010-03-18 09:37:53 PM  
madmann: Seriously, though, I get tired of people yelling "FIRST AMENDMENT" every time someone gets criticized. It's not a farkin' Willy Wonka pass. To bring it up in non-government cases shows a basic misunderstanding of what the Bill of Rights is even supposed to do. Do they not teach this shiat anymore? Damn, people, it's not that long, read it once.

"The creators of parodies of public figures are protected against civil liability by the First Amendment, unless the parody includes false statements of fact made in knowing or reckless disregard of the truth. Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed."

We'll just leave this here.

 
snake_beater 2010-03-18 09:41:52 PM  
Zuul! ZUUL! Zuul, motherfarker! ZUUL!

/shouldn't be obscure

 
FlyingJ 2010-03-18 09:43:52 PM  
link was missing 2 digits, no chix going @ it tho;
Link (new window)

 
schief2 [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 09:47:01 PM  
Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

 
LastTrueViking 2010-03-18 09:48:10 PM  
Can't you stop your lips from flapping for two little minutes?

 
Kumana Wanalaia 2010-03-18 10:01:22 PM  
Wait for the sign, the our prisoners will be released.

YOU WILL PERISH IN FLAME!

 
RoyBatty 2010-03-18 10:01:49 PM  
2theruns: Uchiha_Cycliste: madmann: TFA:

Web Site Libel, Round II
by Peter Galuszka

Margaret J. Freund is appealing a Richmond Circuit Court judge's decision to strike down the lawsuit she filed against a Richmond Web developer and several Internet domain firms, in which she charges that she was defamed.

The Richmond real estate executive sought $400,000 in damages from Brian Mount, an employee of Richmond-based INM United, accusing him of creating a spoof Web site featuring Freund in a demonic pose with a vivid quote from Vigo, a villain in the "Ghostbusters II" movie, including skulls, blood and evil.


What's cool is that googling the above quotes from the article shows it occurs at FARK and styleweekly, but FARK is listed above styleweekly.

 
Scruffinator 2010-03-18 10:03:30 PM  
Shh! This is the part where you find out who you're gonna call!

 
Ken at Popehat 2010-03-18 10:06:22 PM  
RoyFokker'sGhost: madmann:
Mandatory Me-Being-A-Dick: This has fark-all to do with the First Amendment. Disputes between two citizens can never be First Amendment cases. Why is this so hard to get?

You know how I know you're gay? Becasue you obviously don't read Hustler.

Linked for your pleasure (new window)


Sure, you could go with Hustler, and suggest madmann's been wrong since 1988. But that's only 22 years. Why not go whole-hog and cite New York Times v. Sullivan a half-farking-century ago, the most important libel case in American history, arguably the most important First Amendment case of the last half-century, that established that libel law implicates the First Amendment because it uses the power of the state (imposed by the courts, under the authority of state statutes and state common law) to impose liability for speech?

"We may dispose at the outset of two grounds asserted to insulate the judgment of the Alabama courts from constitutional scrutiny. The first is the proposition relied on by the State Supreme Court - that "The Fourteenth Amendment is directed against State action and not private action." That proposition has no application to this case. Although this is a civil lawsuit between private parties, the Alabama courts have applied a state rule of law which petitioners claim to impose invalid restrictions on their constitutional freedoms of speech and press. It matters not that that law has been applied in a civil action and that it is common law only, though supplemented by statute. See, e. g., Alabama Code, Tit. 7, 908-917. The test is not the form in which state power has been applied but, whatever the form, whether such power has in fact been exercised."

(If madmann is trolling, 7/10, 10/10 vs. law geeks)

 
eeeleeet [TotalFark] 2010-03-18 10:22:30 PM  
LastTrueViking: Can't you stop your lips from flapping for two little minutes?

Well if you really feel that way......

:P

 
Dire 2010-03-18 10:28:17 PM  
She is like the buzzing of flies to that Circuit Court judge

 
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