I would drive at least 800 miles to punch this guy in the nose.

Self important, deluded prima donna in an ironic sweater vest.

I presume he got a D on his "persuasive essay" assignment. If not an F.

He repeatedly relies on central cues that are meaningful to himself rather than to the reader.

If he's a professional writer, I see why he's unemployed.

He's in "the creative industries."

Don't creators, by definition, have to create?

Having just read through that entire deposit of lizard leavings, I can confidently say that his Herculean efforts to defend and elevate himself have met with approximately 0% success. Central to my assertion is the fact that he doesn't actually argue any of the points he claims to want to make.

To put it another way, I can understand why he has no money. He's not worth much to society.

Next.

floor9: To put it another way, I can understand why he has no money. He's not worth much to society.

He's sure getting Salon a lot of clicks. He may not be the best writer but I see what he's saying.

On the flip side, if society places more emphasis on trade schools/specified degrees, we're going to end up growing even more well-defined castes

Plus, I don't see the logic of "you're on food stamps, so you can only eat spaghettios and whatever's on the dollar menu"

/said the philosophy major

He's an asshole/idiot. Right now, someone in Baltimore with a degree can walk into a temp agency and have a $14/hr job starting monday and being where he is, he can take the 15 minute ride on the lightrail into the city for a whopping $3.60/day.

Actually, I may know who the anonymous author is. We have a few publishing houses around, but they don't call it Smalltimore for nothing...

Oh wait, he's not anon. Salon's formatting was rendering strangely.

floor9: Having just read through that entire deposit of lizard leavings, I can confidently say that his Herculean efforts to defend and elevate himself have met with approximately 0% success. Central to my assertion is the fact that he doesn't actually argue any of the points he claims to want to make.

To put it another way, I can understand why he has no money. He's not worth much to society.

Next.

I wonder if I've met this guy before...I know plenty of people who certainly fit his description.

Hmm. I expected to hate the guy and the article and.. Did not hate it at all

Get a job, hipster.

society should discriminate against lazy parasites.

fark that ad.

I support the idea of eating well as the best form of preventive healthcare. You buy cheap crap, you get sick. Let the guy eat what he wants.

I almost want to be open minded about his point of view but SXSW is going on here in Austin and my tolerance is shot. I swear, if I have to dodge another frayed jean and ironic t-shirt wearing hipster because it wandered self-importantly out into traffic, I'm going to get out of my car and beat it half to death with my tire iron.

GET A JOB HIPPIE-STER...

He lacks much of a persuasive argument, but this paragraph is a thing of beauty:
"This is, however, irrelevant because the core of this discussion is an ideological debate between those that believe private entrepreneurship and simple hard work are the cures for poverty, and those that believe that the the poverty line is permeable in both directions. Among the latter, there is yet a deeper debate about whether we can, in a deep recession with record unemployment rates, make the same old assumptions about class based on race, occupation and education, particularly when increasingly, only poorly paid, unprotected, insecure jobs are available even to people with master's degrees."

IrateShadow: He's an asshole/idiot. Right now, someone in Baltimore with a degree can walk into a temp agency and have a $14/hr job starting monday and being where he is, he can take the 15 minute ride on the lightrail into the city for a whopping $3.60/day.

Can you gmail me that information please? I graduate in May, and might need it.

FTFA: >Continue Reading

Don't you threaten me

El Chode: Plus, I don't see the logic of "you're on food stamps, so you can only eat spaghettios and whatever's on the dollar menu"

The problem is that if you can afford food as expensive as they are talking about, you shouldn't need supplemental assistance. The idea behind the program is that we think everyone should have a basic level of food to eat, and if you don't make enough money to afford that, you can get some assistance to make up the difference.

Well and good, however it is supposed to be help to get you up t a minimum level, as in able to afford the basics. You can get a lot of plenty healthy food for little money. Rice, beans, etc are very cheap and provide a lot of calories and are quite healthy.

So, if you can afford all of that on your own (as well as other life necessities) then you shouldn't need supplemental assistance.

The flip side of that is if you spend your assistance on expensive items, that means you probably don't need it. If you are spending it such that it is enough to feed you for maybe 5 days out of the month, clearly you are eating the rest of the time and probably doing so at around the same level. You've got the money, you don't need the assistance.

airsupport: I would drive at least 800 miles to punch this guy in the nose.

Self important, deluded prima donna in an ironic sweater vest.

I second that idea. To boot, this is the picture he puts on the internet for everyone to see:

No. It's really him. Now I want to punch him in the teeth instead of the nose.

I like the part where he says he can't find a job. I think he meant to say "can't find a job that doesn't require me to do things I don't want to do, which is pretty much everything that is of value to other people, which is why they pay you for doing such things".

So even if you make stuff nobody wants, you should be taken care of by others simply because you create? That's a load of bullshiat.

/DRTFA

Katie98_KT: He lacks much of a persuasive argument, but this paragraph is a thing of beauty:
"This is, however, irrelevant because the core of this discussion is an ideological debate between those that believe private entrepreneurship and simple hard work are the cures for poverty, and those that believe that the the poverty line is permeable in both directions. Among the latter, there is yet a deeper debate about whether we can, in a deep recession with record unemployment rates, make the same old assumptions about class based on race, occupation and education, particularly when increasingly, only poorly paid, unprotected, insecure jobs are available even to people with master's degrees."

I'd really like to know what masters degrees we are talking about, here. My BS in engineering seems to be suiting me just fine.

Be sure to read his upcoming book:

"Are you there God? It's me, czarangelus"

I hope this guy isn't a 'creative' writer. Because he sucks at it. What the hell is going on in paragraph 2?

I especially like how in paragraph 3 he cites other creative people he knows on gov't assistance to help back up his story. And notes that they all apparently have jobs. Which he does not.

IrateShadow: He's an asshole/idiot. Right now, someone in Baltimore with a degree can walk into a temp agency and have a $14/hr job starting monday and being where he is, he can take the 15 minute ride on the lightrail into the city for a whopping $3.60/day.

I don't know about Baltimore, but when I was unemployed in DC last year I was registered with 4 different temp agencies. I called each of them every morning to see if there were any jobs. In three months of this I got exactly 1 job that paid $10/hr. I'm doing the same thing in Burlington, VT right now, 2 months with 3 temp agencies, I've gotten 2 jobs so far and one of them was a whopping 4 hours of work.

/college educated white guy on food stamps
//NOT a farking hipster

dude needs a cawk punch.

I think the gist of the original, critical article was that your government hand out money can go much further if you don't buy expensive, "organic" foods. If we are giving hand outs to people that allows them to purchase more expensive stuff than people with jobs that are actually paying income taxes, something is wrong with the system.

Three words sum that up: Whiny. Douche. Bag.

NastyLever: Be sure to read his upcoming book:

"Are you there God? It's me, czarangelus"

WIN

IrateShadow: He's an asshole/idiot. Right now, someone in Baltimore with a degree can walk into a temp agency and have a $14/hr job starting monday and being where he is, he can take the 15 minute ride on the lightrail into the city for a whopping $3.60/day.

I don't know about Baltimore, but here in Nashville you sure can't get a $14/hr job at a temp agency, degree or not, and people fight for the minimum wage, part-time jobs posted on Craigslist.

In regards to the article, if you're unemployed and poor enough to be on food stamps, you should care more about saving your pennies than the quality of your food. Surviving on pasta and potatoes for a while won't kill you.

By the way, a whole rabbit at Lexington Market is $10, feeds at least four people, and is healthier than factory-farmed chicken (around $6 for a whole one at the same market).

[citation needed], you cock.

I think most of all have known from a young age that being educated does not necessarily translate into making money. The problem most people have with these "hipsters on food stamps" is that they assume that because they have a degree, they should be making money, even though they learned something for which there is either little market demand, or very difficult markey entry.

People are more sympathetic to the uneducated on welfare, because the system exists as a crutch to the unfortunate. If you're educated, however, you possess the faculties to understand the system and adapt in order to make a better living for yourself. If you choose not to, you are more than entitled to your food stamps benefit, but not to the sympathies of those of us who have jobs we don't necessarily love in order to have an income that we find acceptable.

Panty Sniffer: airsupport: I would drive at least 800 miles to punch this guy in the nose.

Self important, deluded prima donna in an ironic sweater vest.

I second that idea. To boot, this is the picture he puts on the internet for everyone to see:

No. It's really him. Now I want to punch him in the teeth instead of the nose.

SO now I know he needs a HAIRCUT and a job.

Sometimes you just gotta let it go man

I'm on food stamps, and reading stuff like this pisses me off.

I eat good healthy foods prepared from scratch on a shoestring budget. You don't have to spend a lot of money to eat well.

Food is my only form of healthcare as well, trying to deal with rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia through diet, along with other issues. You don't need an 8 dollar loaf of artisan bread. You can get by just fine with day old french bread or cuban bread loaves bought 2 for buck.

That whole article disgusted me.

Given this guy's attitude, I pretty much expect him to start talking about trebuchets, Chinese torture socks, and his principled refusal to pay his student loans at any time.

Panty Sniffer: airsupport: I would drive at least 800 miles to punch this guy in the nose.

Self important, deluded prima donna in an ironic sweater vest.

I second that idea. To boot, this is the picture he puts on the internet for everyone to see:

No. It's really him. Now I want to punch him in the teeth instead of the nose.

Okay. Nevermind. I hate him.

CarriePrejean: I'd really like to know what masters degrees we are talking about, here. My BS in engineering seems to be suiting me just fine.

I have a number of friends with varying degrees who are finding it hard to find a decent job right now. Hell, one of my good friends has an accounting certificate, and the small business she was working for decided they couldn't afford her, so she's out of work.
I'm not saying they don't exist, they're just harder to find, and more difficult to get.

Ecobuckeye: Panty Sniffer: airsupport: I would drive at least 800 miles to punch this guy in the nose.

Self important, deluded prima donna in an ironic sweater vest.

I second that idea. To boot, this is the picture he puts on the internet for everyone to see:

No. It's really him. Now I want to punch him in the teeth instead of the nose.

SO now I know he needs a HAIRCUT and a job.

And a dentist. Don't forget the dentist.

Meh. Of all the things one could skimp on in life, the food we feed ourselves seems like one place we shouldn't.

El Chode: On the flip side, if society places more emphasis on trade schools/specified degrees, we're going to end up growing even more well-defined castes

Plus, I don't see the logic of "you're on food stamps, so you can only eat spaghettios and whatever's on the dollar menu"

/said the philosophy major

No, but I have a problem with you paying for premium food on my dime so you'll feel better about yourself. Yes I want you to eat better than TV dinners and McDonald's so I don't have to turn around and spend more tax dollars on treating your heart disease, but if $6 buys you a chicken and $10 buys you a rabbit and they both feed the same amount of people, you get the $6 chicken the rest of us who actually have to pay for our food are buying.

NastyLever: "Are you there God? It's me, czarangelus"

*golf clap*

bv2112: If you choose not to, you are more than entitled to your food stamps benefit, but not to the sympathies of those of us who have jobs we don't necessarily love in order to have an income that we find acceptable.

THIS. There are a lot of things you could have done with that money you spent on your MFA, hipster.

"Creative industry"? Does that mean no one buys his watercolor paintings of trees in a field?

El Chode: Plus, I don't see the logic of "you're on food stamps, so you can only eat spaghettios and whatever's on the dollar menu"

I am with ya, I looked at the previous article and got to say, spend your foodstamps how you want.....


I see folks get upset about it, but the downside to getting foodstamps is.... you are farking Poor, if you do not need them, you are doing pretty well, If you need them , God Bless and eat what ever you can.... I would rather see a foodstamp recipent eat organic beef than spend it all on potato chips and taffy.

President_Rexall: IrateShadow: He's an asshole/idiot. Right now, someone in Baltimore with a degree can walk into a temp agency and have a $14/hr job starting monday and being where he is, he can take the 15 minute ride on the lightrail into the city for a whopping $3.60/day.

I don't know about Baltimore, but when I was unemployed in DC last year I was registered with 4 different temp agencies. I called each of them every morning to see if there were any jobs. In three months of this I got exactly 1 job that paid $10/hr. I'm doing the same thing in Burlington, VT right now, 2 months with 3 temp agencies, I've gotten 2 jobs so far and one of them was a whopping 4 hours of work.

/college educated white guy on food stamps
//NOT a farking hipster

Maybe it's the clown makeup? Or the hating on people from your behind-the-bar service position?

madgecko13

...I'm going to get out of my car and beat it half to death with my tire iron.





/had to go deep in the way back machine for that reference

We can all talk sh*t on these people, and yes, they should get jobs. But if there was no government assistance, there would be homeless, hungry people with nothing left to lose robbing your ass and you would be sayin' "That sh*t just ain't right. We should at least give them the basics of food and shelter so they don't rob people and live under the carport in my apartment complex."

A man with nothin' has nothin' left to lose.

The Face Of Oblivion: By the way, a whole rabbit at Lexington Market is $10, feeds at least four people, and is healthier than factory-farmed chicken (around $6 for a whole one at the same market).fark that. I'd rather keep working the miserable job I got after having spent 5 miserable years getting two degrees so I can afford crabcakes, oysters, and Natty Bos at Faidley's.