It's like they're not even trying to be fake any more.

Marcus Aurelius: It's like they're not even trying to be fake any more.

someone has to point out the obvious. the corporate infotainment networks aren't.

scary thought having an education board full of Palin-Americans.

let's take the writer of the Declaration of Independence Thomas Jefferson out of the history books and insert wingnut John Calvin.

what a farking joke.

"If'n I don kno it, it aint worth kno'en."

change economics class to Reaganomics
Home economics to Home Reaganomics.


I wonder how the right would react if we took Reagan out of the books and inserted Harvey Milk or Madeline Murray O'Hare?
Would their heads not asplode?

Hobodeluxe: I wonder how the right would react if we took Reagan out of the books and inserted Harvey Milk or Madeline Murray O'Hare?
Would their heads not asplode?

No, they have a more organized means of dealing with that kind of disappointment.



/Yeah, I went there.

Hobodeluxe

someone has to point out the obvious. the corporate infotainment networks aren't

It's like the real news has become fake news and the fake news has become real news.

Always nice to see my home state in the ne... GODAMMIT TEXAS, WHAT THE fark IS THIS shiat!

PolloDiablo: Always nice to see my home state in the ne... GODAMMIT TEXAS, WHAT THE fark IS THIS shiat!

Business as usual, it looks like. On the plus side, you are reading this in Morgan Freeman's voice, which should soothe your soul a little bit. I am as dissapoint in them as you are, and am aware that not all Texans are this dumb - you, for example, seem like a reasonable person, and would probably not vote Mr. Romero out of the history books just because that woman had never heard of him before.

It's fairly telling that if you do not want your children to be indoctrinated with this nonsense, it would be best to enroll them in Catholic School.

PolloDiablo: Always nice to see my home state in the ne... GODAMMIT TEXAS, WHAT THE fark IS THIS shiat!

Um, I hate to break this to you, but they were playing this game back in the early 80s when I was going to school there. This is not a new thing. But the market has grown a bit, and the rhetoric has gotten crazier.

King Something: you are reading this in Morgan Freeman's voice

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Hobodeluxe: Marcus Aurelius: It's like they're not even trying to be fake any more.

someone has to point out the obvious. the corporate infotainment networks aren't.

The folks passing these amendments think that the old textbooks aren't telling the truth either. That's why they've amended the curriculum to talk about Reagan more and to specifically exclude discussion about separation of church and state.

I actually had to turn TDS off just now (watching it on the DVR) because I was getting stabby. Last thing I need is religious douchebags farking over science and historians because they're "not christian" who are close enough I can go kick them in the nuts.

Abstruse: I actually had to turn TDS off just now (watching it on the DVR) because I was getting stabby. Last thing I need is religious douchebags farking over science and historians because they're "not christian" who are close enough I can go kick them in the nuts.

if you go do it be sure to take a video and put it on youtube. that way you might become popular enough to round up some legal defense money.

Methinks it may be time to expand government again and put an end to BS like this.

It is too late to give Texas back to Mexico?

Marcus Aurelius: It's like they're not even trying to be fake any more.

How can you try to be fake? Is there some sort of gauge of inauthenticity I've not been introduced to?

Hobodeluxe: Abstruse: I actually had to turn TDS off just now (watching it on the DVR) because I was getting stabby. Last thing I need is religious douchebags farking over science and historians because they're "not christian" who are close enough I can go kick them in the nuts.

if you go do it be sure to take a video and put it on youtube. that way you might become popular enough to round up some legal defense money.

Wise words.

Here are their approved economics textbook standards:

Free markets are perfect.

hitlersbrain: Methinks it may be time to expand government again and put an end to BS like this.

It is too late to give Texas back to Mexico?

Came for this. Leaving satisfied.

"Conservative" school board member?

How the hell is history conservative or liberal?

I mean I understand new ideas influencing how we view history, but really?

If we actually listened to conservatives we would still be too scared to leave the cave and stop worshiping fire.

hitlersbrain: Methinks it may be time to expand government again and put an end to BS like this.

It is too late to give Texas back to Mexico?

Mexico? Have you looked at their textbooks? Talk about getting history all wrong, they don't have the names of any of the founding fathers right, or anything.

These conservatives always compare Democrats to some sort of Orwellian dictatorial force, and then they turn around and use tactics straight out of 1984's Ministry of Truth.

End public schools, vouchers for everyone, remove schoolboards and teacher's unions and all the administrative costs and inefficiencies associated with those.

2farknfunny: hitlersbrain: Methinks it may be time to expand government again and put an end to BS like this.

It is too late to give Texas back to Mexico?

Mexico? Have you looked at their textbooks? Talk about getting history all wrong, they don't have the names of any of the founding fathers right, or anything.

I know! They think July 4th is in September!

Stile4aly: These conservatives always compare Democrats to some sort of Orwellian dictatorial force, and then they turn around and use tactics straight out of 1984's Ministry of Truth.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

F'ing Bible thumping, Jebus sucking fundies.

I find it pretty disheartening that in this day and age, what goes into our schoolbooks is being decided by people who've probably never read one.

Lollipop165: "Conservative" school board member?

How the hell is history conservative or liberal?

I mean I understand new ideas influencing how we view history, but really?

Everything is conservative or liberal now, even grocery stores. Link (new window)

Well, with this the Reagan centennial I'm sure Texas wanted to focus on treason and war crimes.

Stile4aly: These conservatives always compare Democrats to some sort of Orwellian dictatorial force, and then they turn around and use tactics straight out of 1984's Ministry of Truth.

Well, war is peace.

Dust: King Something: you are reading this in Morgan Freeman's voice

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my, my, how about that?

hitlersbrain: Methinks it may be time to expand government again and put an end to BS like this.

They pretty much did this by creating the national education standards that most states accepted. Texas wasn't one of them.

"We need to stand up to experts."

I love Stewart's rebuttal. In fact, I might just use that and go visit McElroy, the dentist, and telling him, "I have to disagree that brushing my teeth is good for me. I'm going to rub it from chocolate from now on. Why are you yelling at me? You're the expert, but I know what's best. Well, we just have to disagree."

And then I'd stab him with the little pick.

Audience: Boooooo--

Stewart: Get your asses on the Texas Board of Curriculum, then!

nice

And in a generation (or less) when their kids are desperately waiting in the parking lot of the Home Depot hoping to get day labor these same asspipes will complain that "the Democrats chased all the good jobs away."

Good news everyone! I've invented a machine that lets you read text in my voice.

Hobodeluxe: Abstruse: I actually had to turn TDS off just now (watching it on the DVR) because I was getting stabby. Last thing I need is religious douchebags farking over science and historians because they're "not christian" who are close enough I can go kick them in the nuts.

if you go do it be sure to take a video and put it on youtube. that way you might become popular enough to round up some legal defense money.

Why would he need defense money? If the jury is truly made up of Abstruse's peers they wouldn't convict him. I certainly wouldn't.

I can't recall reading a textbook even once. I just reviewed class notes from whatever the given teacher put up on the board. I'm guessing most of that was in the teacher's edition, so why open my shiny new book? The teachers were giving the TL;DR version. I received A's and B's, so I guess I did it right.

/School was a joke, but I did make great friends there.
//Not the point of the post, I know, but hey! I'm being wistful!

I don't even understand what the purpose of school boards is. Why do a couple of people with lots of time on their hands decide how thousands of children are raised?

If you put other people in charge of educating your children, you defer to their educational preferences. I personally wouldn't trust anyone, liberal or conservative, to educate me without having alternate options. If they know I can seek better education elsewhere, they have to set their own bar higher - even if that means teaching about people, events, ideas, etc. that are opposed to their own opinions.

drake113: I find it pretty disheartening that in this day and age, what goes into our schoolbooks is being decided by people who've probably never read one.

The Bible is the only true history book. If it isn't in there, its just something liberals made up.

journalsquare: "We need to stand up to experts."

I love Stewart's rebuttal. In fact, I might just use that and go visit McElroy, the dentist, and telling him, "I have to disagree that brushing my teeth is good for me. I'm going to rub it from chocolate from now on. Why are you yelling at me? You're the expert, but I know what's best. Well, we just have to disagree."

And then I'd stab him with the little pick.

It's almost exactly the same as the "vaccines cause autism" people.

Most articles contain a quote that's a minor variation on "Well, those eggheads at Johns Hopkins and the Mayo Clinic say it's ok, but as a Mom I just *know* what's best for my child."

The problem is I would argue an idiot who willfully leads to a diptheria outbreak is much less dangerous, long-term, to society than those who willfully foster a derp outbreak.

None of my teachers taught out of the classic textbooks since they were AP classes.

/Texas

So now I know what Phil Herup looks like.

IrateShadow: hitlersbrain: Methinks it may be time to expand government again and put an end to BS like this.

They pretty much did this by creating the national education standards that most states accepted. Texas wasn't one of them.

From what I heard on Stewart and PBS is that Texas buys so many textbooks a lot of other schools are stuck with their versions since printers pander to them.

Education standards seem like something a State should not have the ability to say 'no' to. Kids need at least the chance to escape the idiocy of their parents and immediate environment.

PonceAlyosha: Marcus Aurelius: It's like they're not even trying to be fake any more.

How can you try to be fake? Is there some sort of gauge of inauthenticity I've not been introduced to?

Yes. You go to the your state's Court of Appeals & sue for the right to lie (new window).

"He who controls the past, controls the future"

King Something: It's fairly telling that if you do not want your children to be indoctrinated with this nonsense, it would be best to enroll them in Catholic School.

No kidding. Though I think for most right wingers the irony would be lost on them that in order to get their children away from right wing, American Christian thinking, you would have to enroll them in a Catholic school.

Sadly though, it's true. I went 1st - 8th Grade Catholic school. There I was taught Darwin and his theory of evolution. I went to public high school and we skipped that chapter every time it came up in science class.

When did Fark become the "Suck Stewart's Dick" website?

Praising this hack has become a weekly event on Fark.

I saw this last night and it seemed a bit O'Reillyish to me (maybe in observance of St. Patty's day). The "stand up to the the experts" line was cut off mid-sentence, so I have no idea if that was his point.

They went after a woman for not wanting to include a martyr in a list of heroes because he "wasn't famous enough". To be fair, these people are trying to determine which items in the entirety of human history are going to be included in a textbook (and therefore are testable). They can't just include everything.

All that said, I suspect the overall message from TDS is correct in this case. The particular way it was presented just bothered me a bit.