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The FAA can apply FARs 91.13 and 91.103 to damn-near every small aircraft crash.

It's Aurora, so you can't really fault the pilot for skipping the preparations and just wanting to get the fark out of there.

Schwing!

Owangotang: It's Aurora, so you can't really fault the pilot for skipping the preparations and just wanting to get the fark out of there.

That's funny because I'm sitting in Aurora right now...and can't wait to get the Fark out of here.

As a resident of Aurora... Well, nothing to say... Sad situation here.

Or, say, colliding with your own hangar

Or miss those two guys sitting on top of their AMC Gremlin.

Wanted for questioning

/Why do they come to me to die?

They listed an air traffic controller at DuPage airport as a contributing factor because he did not issue a safety alert for the radio tower. I don't remember ever getting an alert from ATC about radio towers when I flying under visual flight rules. Poor planing by the pilot seems to be the only reason that thing went down.

A rotor from the Air Angels helicopter that crashed on Oct. 15, 2008, lies just off the shoulder on Eola Road in Aurora. (Beacon-News file)

Really a year and half later and the NTSB rules this without even taking a look at the equipment and no one else is required to even pick it up??

Did the pilot look like this:



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eas81: A rotor from the Air Angels helicopter that crashed on Oct. 15, 2008, lies just off the shoulder on Eola Road in Aurora. (Beacon-News file)

Really a year and half later and the NTSB rules this without even taking a look at the equipment and no one else is required to even pick it up??

Helicopter pilots don't like to fly IFR.

Big_Fat_Liar:
That's funny because I'm sitting in Aurora right now...and can't wait to get the Fark out of here.

HunterNIU: As a resident of Aurora... Well, nothing to say... Sad situation here.


LOL

I'm in Peoria, and even I feel sorry for you.

Either learn how to fly without all those fancy instruments or stop complaining about flying into radio beacons that are designed to help you navigate and land. You can't have it both ways, you attention whore aviators.

Mr. Potatoass: Big_Fat_Liar:
That's funny because I'm sitting in Aurora right now...and can't wait to get the Fark out of here.

HunterNIU: As a resident of Aurora... Well, nothing to say... Sad situation here.


LOL

I'm in Peoria, and even I feel sorry for you.

That's just low.

choice and consequence: Or, say, colliding with your own hangar

Ride's over, huh?

/you're gonna want this for your insurance public humiliation on break.com

johnz16: They listed an air traffic controller at DuPage airport as a contributing factor because he did not issue a safety alert for the radio tower. I don't remember ever getting an alert from ATC about radio towers when I flying under visual flight rules. Poor planing by the pilot seems to be the only reason that thing went down.

Agreed. Under VFR in Class E airspace the ATC is not going to babysit you.

Also, the PIC was 69?? Jeez.

Grew up on Highland St. so I'm getting a kick, etc.

WBIG? Never heard of it. Maybe this (new window) is why.

Big_Fat_Liar: Mr. Potatoass: Big_Fat_Liar:
That's funny because I'm sitting in Aurora right now...and can't wait to get the Fark out of here.

HunterNIU: As a resident of Aurora... Well, nothing to say... Sad situation here.


LOL

I'm in Peoria, and even I feel sorry for you.

That's just low.

There was multiple shooters in our parking lot last Wednesday night at 10:15, and I haven't even seen it in the news yet or on Fark.... That's how common that is I guess. Although I live North of New York street on Farnsworth, which is usually better.

/if only IL would legalize CCW....

HunterNIU: Big_Fat_Liar: Mr. Potatoass: Big_Fat_Liar:
That's funny because I'm sitting in Aurora right now...and can't wait to get the Fark out of here.

HunterNIU: As a resident of Aurora... Well, nothing to say... Sad situation here.


LOL

I'm in Peoria, and even I feel sorry for you.

That's just low.

There was multiple shooters in our parking lot last Wednesday night at 10:15, and I haven't even seen it in the news yet or on Fark.... That's how common that is I guess. Although I live North of New York street on Farnsworth, which is usually better.

/if only IL would legalize CCW....

oh, and...

As and ex-resident of Aurora, I'm cracking up on these replies. I was back there visiting when the crash went DOWN. I left that town in 90 and I've never been more happier with the decision.

/Mother's passing negates many future visits.

I seen another fire near Dupage Airport today. They must be dropping like flies or something at that airport.

It's not just a place but a state of mind!

HunterNIU: Big_Fat_Liar: Mr. Potatoass: Big_Fat_Liar:
That's funny because I'm sitting in Aurora right now...and can't wait to get the Fark out of here.

HunterNIU: As a resident of Aurora... Well, nothing to say... Sad situation here.


LOL

I'm in Peoria, and even I feel sorry for you.

That's just low.

There was multiple shooters in our parking lot last Wednesday night at 10:15, and I haven't even seen it in the news yet or on Fark.... That's how common that is I guess. Although I live North of New York street on Farnsworth, which is usually better.

/if only IL would legalize CCW.... Farnsworth has never been better. Eastside Hoodies. I grew up near there. My best friend, back home, has interests in Kaotic Kreations Tattoo Parlour on New York street.

xuanzhiyouxuan: Either learn how to fly without all those fancy instruments or stop complaining about flying into radio beacons that are designed to help you navigate and land. You can't have it both ways, you attention whore aviators.


No, I'm going to use The Force...

/Use the Instrument Panel, Luke... the Instrument Panel! That's what it's there for... advanced weaponry designed to hit tiny targets!

psychoace: I seen another fire ...

I sure don't miss the Illinois hicks.

The NTSB's job is to blame all small aircraft crashes on "pilot error", which means as a pilot you really need to make sure all your "I"s are dotted and your "T"s are crossed during preflight. A great deal of flight training involves learning how to plan and make sure you thought of everything.

This happened less than a mile from Fermilab (i know because this happened just an hour before I was headed there for shifts). I'm kinda surprised there haven't been any kooky conspiracy theories blaming the accelerator.

/Good job, society, for exceeding my expectations

Aurora, Illinois? I wonder if it was the same tower that broadcasted this:

Funk Brothers: Or miss those two guys sitting on top of their AMC Gremlin.

Well, you know what you can do with your show? You can take a flying...
*jet flies over head* ...till the handle breaks off and you have to get a doctor to pull it out again!

stiletto_the_wise: The NTSB's job is to blame all small aircraft crashes on "pilot error", which means as a pilot you really need to make sure all your "I"s are dotted and your "T"s are crossed during preflight. A great deal of flight training involves learning how to plan and make sure you thought of everything.

*ahem* This

My CFI was a lunatic for this sort of thing and I get stressed when I think about his attempts to punch holes in my flight planning, all in the name of learning to cover my butt.

stiletto_the_wise: The NTSB's job is to blame all small aircraft crashes on "pilot error", which means as a pilot you really need to make sure all your "I"s are dotted and your "T"s are crossed during preflight. A great deal of flight training involves learning how to plan and make sure you thought of everything.

And maybe if you do this right you don't run in to fixed object with strobe lights on it.

stiletto_the_wise: The NTSB's job is to blame all small aircraft crashes on "pilot error", which means as a pilot you really need to make sure all your "I"s are dotted and your "T"s are crossed during preflight. A great deal of flight training involves learning how to plan and make sure you thought of everything.

I don't get it. Are you saying dotting and crossing the i's and t's is what eliminates (most?) "pilot error" or are you saying the NTSB lazily decides to blame actual non-pilot-related problems on "pilot error?" Or a little of column A and a little of column B?

Funk Brothers: Or miss those two guys sitting on top of their AMC Gremlin.

How am I first one to correct this? It was an AMC Pacer, not a Gremlin

stiletto_the_wise: The NTSB's job is to blame all small aircraft crashes on "pilot error", which means as a pilot you really need to make sure all your "I"s lowercase "J's" are dotted and your "T"s are crossed during preflight. A great deal of flight training involves learning how to plan and make sure you thought of everything.

FTF Wayne's World

/I'll stop now

Saw them cut the top 75 ft of damage off this tower. Huey chained to the tower, 3 dudes with torches strapped to there backs, rainy day. Coolest sight I have seen in a long time.

All I can say is that the three metalworkers have brass ones, and the boys over at Midwest Helicopter are some of the best damned pilots around. Good video of a similar situation...

http://www.midwesthelicopters.com/News.html

// Gotta love any place whose motto used to be "We fit big loads into tight places"

"their" backs....


Illinois public schools...gotta love 'em

I_Am_Weasel: WZAZ... Where disco lives forever!

and thread done in one

//double points for Peter Graves passing yesterday....RIP Capt. Oveur

telejester: "their" backs....


Illinois public schools...gotta love 'em

Caught the mistake just after posting.....

Hey, some of us are good spellers, others are good lovers. I guess we know which you are. :)

Inflatable Rhetoric: Helicopter pilots with a half-assed instrument panel don't like to fly IFR.

FTFY. I love being in weather.

Big_Fat_Liar: Owangotang: It's Aurora, so you can't really fault the pilot for skipping the preparations and just wanting to get the fark out of there.

That's funny because I'm sitting in Aurora right now...and can't wait to get the Fark out of here.

My family got out of Aurora...and went to Oswego.

In a related note, since the final report on the 2008 crash was issued in 2010, the NTSB has been found guilty of "inadequate postcrash investigation."

Cockpit crew was too busy rockin' out to Rhapsody to notice stuff around the plane.

WHOOOOAAAAA!!!!!

telejester: "their" backs....


Illinois public schools...gotta love 'em

Caught the mistake just after posting.....

Hey, some of us are good spellers, others are good lovers. I guess we know which you are. :)

Touche, kind sir...

Lenny Wilkes Bruce: In a related note, since the final report on the 2008 crash was issued in 2010, the NTSB has been found guilty of "inadequate postcrash investigation."

?

Helicopters are cool... Especially when smashing into stuff.

Bits flying everywhere... Like hitting an ant colony with a weed-whacker.