FTA: In addition to the odd language, both Wilson and Leuer appear to have dated their deeds 4,002 to 4,003 years into the future - 6010 in the case of Leuer, who filed his in 2008; on "this 12th hour, third day, first week, of the fourth month, of the year 6012" in at least one case with Wilson, who filed his in 2009.

They're dated from Creation of the World, rather than the Birth of Jesus. Duh.

Is it April 1 already?

The guy placed liens on his own home? Can someone more versed in financial legalese explain how the fark that would work?

Bucky Katt: Is it April 1 already?

Every day is April 1st when it comes to religion.

I hear God has some nasty ways of foreclosing.

Ef'n canucks, got no sense of proportion.

I thought that whole state was God's country.

You still have to have thirty pieces of silver as a down payment.

If you borrow from god, you'd better not default. He's got a bad temper -- turns people into pillars of salt and stuff for the tiniest thing.

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I hear God has some nasty ways of foreclosing.

With moose bites?

I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And I will have a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state. Do they let you do that?

Hector Remarkable: You still have to have thirty pieces of silver as a down payment.

Nah God still processes those SISA and SIVA loans, he takes all comers

th0th

watch out for the cook

What does god need with a mortgage?

If only, if only...I plan on moving there.

Chris Whitley captures my feelings better than I ever could (new window)

fotbr: The guy placed liens on his own home? Can someone more versed in financial legalese explain how the fark that would work?

According to the article, it has something to do with being "first in line on the mortgages." I'm no property lawyer, and I have trouble concentrating in my Real Property class, but I would imagine he's trying to be in a position to foreclose on himself. I don't know if that's even possible, but this guy sounds like he'll try anything.

th0th

I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And I will have a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state. Do they let you do that?

Captain Ramius: I suppose.
Capt. Vasili Borodin: No papers?
Captain Ramius: No papers, state to state.
Capt. Vasili Borodin: Well then, in winter I will live in... Arizona. Actually, I think I will need two wives.
Captain Ramius: Oh, at least.


/I would have liked to have seen Montana...

Christianity is stupid.
Communism is good.
Give up.

this sounds like the type of stuff in the book cracking the code, which at least 10 years ago had a picture of a red pill and a blue pill (matrix rip) not sure if its been updated in that time, and it sounded convincing if you just accept the tenants its built upon and not question those.

fotbr: The guy placed liens on his own home? Can someone more versed in financial legalese explain how the fark that would work?

that way if anything happens you are the first to be paid off, its the whole "straw man" thing, like creating a trademark on your name, often done by a common law trademark with just a newspaper filing, and UCC crap. If the house gets forclosed on you are paid off before anyone after you in line. This is the same group of information that says you can make securities payable at the federal window of the federal reserve, and people use that to buy cars (fark story a week or two ago about a guy doing that) and similar stuff. The claim is also that your name in all caps is the fictitious person (like a corporation) where only capital initials is the real person. So what some do is if an indictment is all caps they insist its not them, and any time the judge, clerk or anyone else says/prints/etc their name they try to charge them insane amounts of money filed under a UCC lien (which is a legal lein, but can be challenged). This causes some fear on the clerk and judge because until the challenge is heard and all it is a ding on their credit. I knew someone who is now in springfield prison (the psych hospital federal prison) who was doing that to the judge. He was a tard. Often there is also the claim that federal courts are military courts and improper venue based on the flag. The american flag does not have gold fringe, only the army regulations state gold fringe, and in federal courts they have gold fringe. So a military flag in a court makes it a military court.

Basically the people that fall for this think they can "print money" by making all debts payable by the federal reserve, be indictment proof because of the rules of legal language (all caps vs cap initials), and other stuff. They also do not pay taxes under this scheme, and blah. All of this was detailed in a book 10 years ago called "cracking the code" which had a matrix style red pill/blue pill on the cover. I did an amazon search and did not see that cover so I dont know which one is the updated version or if there is an updated version.

One of the common themes is to file a lein against yourself (well your straw man at least) for a really large amount, usually billions of dollars, that way you are always first in line if there is any debt repayment and no one else can get paid. AFAIK it has never worked, often resulting in jail terms for those that try. Having seen people in federal prison trying various aspects of this I have yet to see anyone get out of it, although in a self-published newsletter the freemen mentioned in the article were acquitted, I never tried to verify that because the tenants in the book were false and that made me question everything after, plus people were getting locked in the psych wards in federal prisons for trying it.

soseussme: If you borrow from god, you'd better not default. He's got a bad temper -- turns people into pillars of salt and stuff for the tiniest thing.

that was once dude, let it go. Beside it was her Lot in life, get it? Lot. oh that was funny, you know it was, stop pretending.

Noweh?

Yahweh!

Mon.

tenant != tenet

One is a renter, the other is named George.

Worldwalker: tenant != tenet

One is a renter, the other is named George.

quoting me would have shown how smart you really are compared to me. Next time you should try it so people can understand who you are mocking.

Movin' to Montana soon.
Gonna be a mental toss flycoon.

Just me 'n the pygmy pony
Over by the Dental Floss Bush

And I'm selling bridges in Florida... Line forms to the left. Have your checkbooks ready - they're going fast!

Raising it up, waxing it down...

Ah, the Clinton era freeman types, what the teabaggers aspire to. Always amused when these tards end up in prison.

The american flag does not have gold fringe, only the army regulations state gold fringe, and in federal courts they have gold fringe. So a military flag in a court makes it a military court.

The way I heard it, the fringed flag is a naval flag, making it admirialty court.

I pluck all day
and all night
and all afternoon.

I'm riding a small tiny hoss.

And all this time I thought god was in the trucking biz...

/hot like G.O.D.

trixter_nl: Worldwalker: tenant != tenet

One is a renter, the other is named George.

quoting me would have shown how smart you really are compared to me. Next time you should try it so people can understand who you are mocking.

Nah, we're all smart enough to read something and remember for at least the 15-20 seconds it takes to reach his comment.