So, basically, given the choice between actually giving a lesbian student the same rights as a normal student and ruining everyone's prom, they chose to ruin everyone's prom? Wow.

Don't be so tough on them, it's only recently that some of their schools have decided letting blacks and whites attend the same prom wasn't going to end the world.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/magazine/24prom-t.html

In before the floor humpers begin their assault on the ACLU.

TheOmni: they chose to ruin everyone's prom?

Gotta love how much some people just can't take treating everyone equally.

School Administrators should be melted down. All of them.

TheOmni: So, basically, given the choice between actually giving a lesbian student the same rights as a normal student and ruining everyone's prom, they chose to ruin everyone's prom? Wow.

The school didn't ruin anybody's prom. The student in question knew the policies and knew that by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people. She upset the apple cart, it's her fault they had to cancel. Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

Fark It: TheOmni: So, basically, given the choice between actually giving a lesbian student the same rights as a normal student and ruining everyone's prom, they chose to ruin everyone's prom? Wow.

The school didn't ruin anybody's prom. The student in question knew the policies and knew that by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people. She upset the apple cart, it's her fault they had to cancel. Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

I agree. That dyke should have some consideration for her (his?) fellow students. She ought to be ashamed of herself for ruining a special night for so many others.

FTA: McKenzie Chaney, 16, said she wasn't planning to attend the prom, but "it's kind of ridiculous that they can't let her wear the tuxedo and it all be over with."

You guys don't understand. You've already lost. The current generation doesn't care.

Fark It: by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people.

how?

Fark It: Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

what does prom have to do with education?

log_jammin: Fark It: by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people.

how?

Fark It: Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

what does prom have to do with education?

Yes.

log_jammin: This hook is sooo tasty! Sure, it hurts, but I'll be damned if I can stop biting it. OM NOM NOM NOM

If there's justice in Mississippi, the kids will organize their own private prom and let the lesbians come as they want. Repudiating their elders bigotry would do a lot of good for them and for the reputation of the state.

Fark It: TheOmni: So, basically, given the choice between actually giving a lesbian student the same rights as a normal student and ruining everyone's prom, they chose to ruin everyone's prom? Wow.

The school didn't ruin anybody's prom. The student in question knew the policies and knew that by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people. She upset the apple cart, it's her fault they had to cancel. Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

Education at the prom....hmm.

Couldn't get a date, could you. That's rough.

/Just sayin'.

Fark It: log_jammin: Fark It: by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people.

how?

Fark It: Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

what does prom have to do with education?

Yes.

k.

Occam's Chainsaw: log_jammin: This hook is sooo tasty! Sure, it hurts, but I'll be damned if I can stop biting it. OM NOM NOM NOM

shut up yous

Occam's Chainsaw: log_jammin: This hook is sooo tasty! Sure, it hurts, but I'll be damned if I can stop biting it. OM NOM NOM NOM

Oh stop it. If we get butthurt lesbians in here the haul could be epic.

We need a champion to get this truly going. We need... genderwar.

soze: Oh stop it. If we get butthurt lesbians in here the haul could be epic.

No women on the internet. No exceptions.

soze: butthurt lesbians

..I....that is....uh...I think that....uh...I....

soze: lesbians

wejash: If there's justice in Mississippi, the kids will organize their own private prom and let the lesbians come as they want. Repudiating their elders bigotry would do a lot of good for them and for the reputation of the state.

While there's interesting shifts in attitudes between generational in the south, the bigotry isn't all that faltering, even though the trend is mostly in the right sane direction.

Do they repeat this thread every year?

*sigh*

Fark It: The school didn't

That is like 10/10. You are going to get so many bites on that.

abb3w: While there's interesting shifts in attitudes between generational in the south, the bigotry isn't all that faltering, even though the trend is mostly in the right sane direction.

I'd be interested in seeing how that correlates with church attendance and religious self-identification.

NewportBarGuy: img695.imageshack.us

If you need me, I'll be in my bunk.

NewportBarGuy: soze: lesbians

Why do I get the feeling that those girls aren't lesbians, but rather attention whores?

gundamtsubasa: NewportBarGuy: soze: lesbians

Why do I get the feeling that those girls aren't lesbians, but rather attention whores?

more better: attention whores aren't lesbians.

so....is she hot?

i'm going with the 'she's wearing the tux, so...no' assumption, but these kinda details are important.

Occam's Chainsaw: I'd be interested in seeing how that correlates with church attendance and religious self-identification.

Playing with ATTEND, increased church attendance appears to reduce the degree of erosion -- but there's still erosion. Unfortunately, the Berkeley interface isn't set up to do Z-test significance for three variables. (I'm not sure you can.)

Feel free to use the GSS to see how it varies with religious identification; RELIG and DENOM are variables I recall, but there might be others in the codebook.

abb3w: Feel free to use the GSS to see how it varies with religious identification; RELIG and DENOM are variables I recall, but there might be others in the codebook.

Looks like I have a favorite new toy.

heap: so....is she hot?

Meh. First or second sigma above mean.

Oh and on the religious front, among the first gay and lesbian couples to get married in DC the other day was Rev. Darlene Garner to her partner Rev. Candy Holmes. Just to cover all the bases, they're black. Yes two black lesbian Christian ministers married each other.

/going to make the haters' heads asplode with that one

Occam's Chainsaw: Looks like I have a favorite new toy.

WORDSUM is another variable often of interest, as a useful proxy for intelligence; for the Evolution/Creationism front of the culture war, there's EVOLVED, SCITEST4, SCITESTY and CREATION; BIBLE sometimes shows unexpected results; and since the dataset ranges over several decades, YEAR of the survey is sometimes worth paying attention. (YEARBORN is a composite variable I made, derived by subtracting AGE from YEAR).

smooshie: Don't be so tough on them, it's only recently that some of their schools have decided letting blacks and whites attend the same prom wasn't going to end the world.


I figure it's a win-win for the school. They can now have a "privately-hosted" prom and keep the blacks out while blaming the gays for it.

Sometimes I can't believe it is really 2010

I was going to use a facepalm image, but WhyteRaven74 saved me the time.

We're not quite there...I can only hope when these kids grow up this kind of nonsense will end.

WhyteRaven74: Rev. Candy Holmes

I can't think of a more pornstar name for a Reverend.

abb3w: wejash: If there's justice in Mississippi, the kids will organize their own private prom and let the lesbians come as they want. Repudiating their elders bigotry would do a lot of good for them and for the reputation of the state.

While there's interesting shifts in attitudes between generational in the south, the bigotry isn't all that faltering, even though the trend is mostly in the right sane direction.

I like how the year born breakdown goes all the way back to 1800, you know, just in case.

RosevilleDan: Sometimes I can't believe it is really 2010

That's because it isn't (new window).

"The righteous need not cower before the drumbeat of human progress. Though the song of yesterday fades into the challenge of tomorrow, God still watches and judges us. Evil lurks in the datalinks as it lurked in the streets of yesteryear. But it was never the streets that were evil."

-Sister Miriam Godwinson, "A Blessed Struggle"

Space Banana Physicist: RosevilleDan: Sometimes I can't believe it is really 2010

That's because it isn't (new window).

Amazing. It really breaks down how normal explanations get misunderstood and then twisted up in a wack jobs head to create the conspiracy theory.

Step 1: Completely misunderstand the Julian to Gregorian calendar transition
Step 2: Formulate outlandish conspiracy based on said misunderstanding
Step 3: ???*
Step 4: Profit


*Who am I kidding? Step 3 is sell tons of books to idiots.

Fark It: The school didn't ruin anybody's prom....


10/10 Masterful. And effective.

Fark It: TheOmni: So, basically, given the choice between actually giving a lesbian student the same rights as a normal student and ruining everyone's prom, they chose to ruin everyone's prom? Wow.

The school didn't ruin anybody's prom. The student in question knew the policies and knew that by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people. She upset the apple cart, it's her fault they had to cancel. Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

How ? Because you can't have a party with a girl in a suit ?

Crap memes aside, I am occasionally amazed at humanity's ability to see an issue with two clearly defined sides of right and wrong, and use the worst forms of justification to pick the wrong side repeatedly.

What next? We find some school that still has the Jim Crow Laws in effect because "some people might feel awkward".

Coming on a Bicycle: Fark It: TheOmni: So, basically, given the choice between actually giving a lesbian student the same rights as a normal student and ruining everyone's prom, they chose to ruin everyone's prom? Wow.

The school didn't ruin anybody's prom. The student in question knew the policies and knew that by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people. She upset the apple cart, it's her fault they had to cancel. Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

How ? Because you can't have a party with a girl in a suit ?

Teh gayes make people too uncomfortable to enjoy themselves.

Fark It: log_jammin: Fark It: by dressing up in drag she would probably ruin prom for a lot of other people.

how?

Fark It: Gays (and straights for that matter) don't have a right to disrupt anyone's education. A woman wearing men's clothing is way too much of a distraction for a prom.

what does prom have to do with education?

Yes.

So... trolling is a art?

wejash: If there's justice in Mississippi, the kids will organize their own private prom and let the lesbians come as they want.

...but then the cops will come and shut it down, 'cuz this party isn't school-sponsored.

These are also, mind you, the same people that say healthcare reform is socialism, so we know they're not that bright to begin with...

MontyBaxx: So... trolling is a art?

More like a skill.

and I got served.

Ok first of all it is a Tuxedo!There are plenty of women that wear suits FITTED FOR WOMEN. I suppose this school believes that all women should wear dresses and only men should wear pants? I dont recall that she was going to wear a fake mustache.THAT would have been drag. That prom was ruined by the schools backwards beliefs and archaic ideologies.

WTF is the big deal???
if they are dressed in an apropriate manner let them attend.
by apropriate i mean formal wear regardless of gender.
we had a huge lawsuit a few years back over this and that is now state board of education policy.
i have a pic taken by the photographer on my computer and it is also on facebook (not my fb) of my GF and her sister attending prom together 3 years ago.

sure you may have some kids pushing the envelope for a couple years but that settles down real quick and the kids can take care of themselfs and decide what is apropriate.