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(BBC) Fail Large Hadron Collider misses again. This is not a repeat from 2011   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 395
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Slick Johnson 2010-03-09 09:55:49 AM  
If I wait a few hours I can get Boobies

 
Solid State Vittles [TotalFark] 2010-03-09 06:15:31 PM  
+1

/if I could

 
skaetur 2010-03-09 06:16:50 PM  
/Nice, I like how earlier it was at the top of the page, and then just now it's still at the top from before when it was there previously, but first, but not back then, actually later on from now when it was there and then it was down at the bottom, while showing up at the top soon, in retrospect how it will be.

 
ThrobblefootSpectre 2010-03-09 06:18:57 PM  
GhostWing: Journal, Day 10:

My latest effort to halt the LHC and stall the Time Wars of 2019-1350 has succeeded.

I have reason to believe, however, that the scientists may be catching on.

I'll have to be more circumspect with my next attempt in 2008.



Ha! Don't bother. By then, We will have already foiled your attempt to interfere in 2008. We foresaw that move several years from now.

 
Ringtailed79 2010-03-09 06:23:13 PM  
THIS GODDAMN THREAD

 
Qatmandu 2010-03-09 07:21:53 PM  
i446.photobucket.com

 
FlyingPenguini 2010-03-09 07:37:18 PM  
KidKorporate: All this talk about future science mumbo jumbo and I haven't heard one word regarding the progress of the bad-ass gravity pump.

gravity pump? is that like a dutch rudder?

 
EviLincoln [TotalFark] 2010-03-09 11:45:21 PM  
Future self: You won't remember why, but the kids are in the dryer.

Trust me.

 
Purplebuzz 2010-03-09 11:52:46 PM  
fuzzwell: Am I the only one who reads it as "Hard-on" collider?

Yeah, you're cutting edge like that.

 
Donnchadha 2010-03-10 02:30:17 AM  
minnesotaboy: Delightfully tachyon, yet unrefined.

 
Flogster 2010-03-10 02:42:44 AM  
Jubeebee: Misleading headline is misleading. They'll be running experiments for the next two years, upgrade it for a year, and then run world destroying experiments afterwords.

Did you miss the point of the headline, or did I miss your point?

/I'm sure particles from the future have explained it all to me yesterday.

 
Crosshair [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 03:19:52 AM  
Epiphany: They don't even know how to put the farking thing together (yet they claimed to), yet they are sure it won't create a black hole that will destroy the earth. Theoretical Science is the biggest joke of the last 100 years.

The LHC is a one-of-a-kind machine. They aren't mass producing them. The final version is also the beta version. No way to see some of these bugs until you build the thing.

 
ravenlore [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 03:42:48 AM  
loathable cockroach: Matt Smith was great as The Doctor, he had a superb run with Moffat. Not happy about how it ended, but what can you do, other than go back in time and change events?

Why aren't you in the Angels thread?

Or why won't you be?

 
Torrentius 2010-03-10 03:42:52 AM  
Torrentius: If I'm reading this in the past, don't stop on our way to work to get coffee today. It tastes like crap and is cold.

Just get it at the office and save yourself the trouble.

 
WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 03:51:17 AM  
gunther_bumpass: How do you even weigh something like that?

Simple, you know the volume of liquid helium involved, you know the density of liquid helium, even with a pen and paper you can find the answer very quickly.

 
jehovahs witness protection [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 03:55:44 AM  
If they wanted to accelerate particles they should had had Toyota design it.

 
Pump_ThePurpleWarrior 2010-03-10 04:15:17 AM  
I drunk what: last post wins the thread!

I already posted it. Three days ago for two years from now.

 
yogaFLAME [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 04:38:56 AM  
100 Watt Walrus: /oblig

My favorite part of that is that p=0.56 is nowhere near significant.

 
WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 04:52:39 AM  
Acid Stuphole: impacting beams of protons at any energy level.

*facepalm* Cosmic rays are most often highly energetic protons....

airplayne: Well whether it is a design flaw of some sort or just quality assurance you would think they would want to fix it now rather than two years from now.

Well they can do what they want to do now, and then fix things up before moving on. If they shut down now, they'd still end up with some downtime later on, so better to just do all the downtime stuff at once than spreading it out.

 
rcf1105 [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 05:01:40 AM  
yogaFLAME: My favorite part of that is that p=0.56 is nowhere near significant.

Well, it depends on how you define significance. From a statistical perspective, saying a statistic is "significant" means "significantly different from zero," i.e., a hypothesis test with a null hypothesis that the correlation = 0 would reject the H0. Now, this could be due to either having an extremely high correlation (negative or positive), or having a large amount of data. It's true that 0.56 isn't a particularly strong correlation, but it could still be a significant correlation if the sample size is large enough.

/Apologies, my inner nerd flared up
//Which is pretty much also my outer nerd

 
oakwolf 2010-03-10 05:22:05 AM  
Did not.

 
GhostWing 2010-03-10 05:39:42 AM  
Journal, Day 10:

My latest effort to halt the LHC and stall the Time Wars of 2019-1350 has succeeded.

I have reason to believe, however, that the scientists may be catching on.

I'll have to be more circumspect with my next attempt in 2008.

 
offacue 2010-03-10 09:12:56 AM  
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met here on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of it as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But in a larger sense we can not dedicate - we can not consecrate - we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled, here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but can never forget what they did here.

It is for us, the living, rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they have, thus far, so nobly carried on. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us - that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here gave the last full measure of devotion - that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain; that this nation shall have a new birth of freedom; and that this government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

 
GonadtheBarbarian 2010-03-10 09:29:46 AM  
www.collider.com

Huh Huh....he said Hadron

 
Marla Singer's Laundry [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 10:15:04 AM  
Cute with the posting-order.

 
Adjective Bird Whiskey [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 10:42:10 AM  
The Large Sisyphean Collider

 
mrshowrules [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 10:43:12 AM  
+1 to subby

i116.photobucket.com

 
meat0918 2010-03-10 10:49:45 AM  
So it has fired up full strength in 2012, and has retroactively caused the economic meltdown, butterfly ballots, and the Bay of Pigs?

 
The Stealth Hippopotamus [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 10:50:22 AM  
hehe

well played sir/madam

 
mrshowrules [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 10:56:30 AM  
meat0918: So it has fired up full strength in 2012, and has retroactively caused the economic meltdown, butterfly ballots, and the Bay of Pigs?

They say that it can't create a black hole. Any microscopic black hole it created would be unstable and disappear.

Dude, that's because it is an antiquark black hole gets larger as it travels backwards in time. Also, don't bogart that man.

 
SithLord 2010-03-10 11:03:56 AM  
static.tvfanatic.com

The only man who can make this thread stop travelling.

 
fuzzwell [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 11:43:35 AM  
Am I the only one who reads it as "Hard-on" collider?

 
haemaker [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 12:03:30 PM  
fuzzwell: Am I the only one who reads it as "Hard-on" collider?

Yes, you are the only boson.

 
Big Red Al [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 12:44:06 PM  
Bravo, subby.... BRAVO

 
yogaFLAME [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 01:06:56 PM  
So it'll be shut down for all of 2012, then? So much for my bet in the Mayan Apocalypse Pool.

 
GooberMcFly [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 01:34:42 PM  
yogaFLAME: So it'll be shut down for all of 2012, then? So much for my bet in the Mayan Apocalypse Pool.

They'll fire it up in December 2012. *cough*

 
apostrophes 2010-03-10 02:27:02 PM  
Inb4 potentially entertaining thread.


/inb4 today?

 
minnesotaboy [recently expired TotalFark] 2010-03-10 02:27:03 PM  
www.integratedenergytherapy.net

 
Jubeebee 2010-03-10 02:27:45 PM  
Misleading headline is misleading. They'll be running experiments for the next two years, upgrade it for a year, and then run world destroying experiments afterwords.

 
Kimpak 2010-03-10 02:28:31 PM  
Dammit, are we ever going to see this thing go full power?

 
I drunk what 2010-03-10 02:29:08 PM  
fuzzwell: Am I the only one who reads it as "Hard-on" collider?

i usually go with hardon collander, but whatever floats your boat

so has this thing worked yet, or are they trying to say that it has basically failed and we haven't learned anything new?

mrshowrules: Any microscopic black hole it created would be unstable and disappear.

so exactly how many black holes have we created thus far that gives the info needed to make such an observation?

 
WooItsPat 2010-03-10 02:35:02 PM  
"quenches"

I chuckled
/ex gf used to quench all the time

 
Epiphany [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 02:39:57 PM  
They don't even know how to put the farking thing together (yet they claimed to), yet they are sure it won't create a black hole that will destroy the earth. Theoretical Science is the biggest joke of the last 100 years.

 
PerilousApricot 2010-03-10 02:41:14 PM  
This is annoying.

The plan last fall was to run for 5 months starting this spring and then shut down for 12 months to fix the problem that caused the explosion in 2008. At the beginning of February the plan was changed to run 18 months and then do the shutdown. It's not a fail, they just realized that it takes a LONG time to warm up and cool down the experiment, so it makes more sense to have longer experiment times so that the "duty-cycle" of the experiment is greater. They were always going to have to crack the experiment open, but there's a lot of people waiting on data, so they're trying to push it out further. They could've started back in nov. '08 and done all the repairs necessary, but it would've been late 2010, early 2011 before they would've been done. At least this way, people get at least some real data to work with.

jeeze.

 
yogaFLAME [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 02:47:23 PM  
GooberMcFly: yogaFLAME: So it'll be shut down for all of 2012, then? So much for my bet in the Mayan Apocalypse Pool.

They'll fire it up in December 2012. *cough*


Ha! Now yogaFLAME is the popular one!

 
Torrentius 2010-03-10 02:48:44 PM  
I hope this is another time jump thread!

/gives doe-eyes to mods

 
Poop_Master_Flex 2010-03-10 02:49:50 PM  
Epiphany: Theoretical Science is the biggest joke of the last 100 years.

I think there might be 250,000+ Japanese folk that might disagree with you.

 
Sandor at the Zoo 2010-03-10 02:51:17 PM  
Poop_Master_Flex: Epiphany: Theoretical Science is the biggest joke of the last 100 years.

I think there might be 250,000+ Japanese folk that might disagree with you.


Gonna be pretty tough to get a hold of 'em, though.

 
Snarfangel [TotalFark] 2010-03-10 02:57:11 PM  
Snarfangel: I hope they realize how much work they are putting my future self through to keep it from going online.

Oh well, back to my moon cubicle.


This is Snarfangel from timeline X23. Avoid the fish at lunch today.

 
meat0918 2010-03-10 02:58:16 PM  
Epiphany: They don't even know how to put the farking thing together (yet they claimed to), yet they are sure it won't create a black hole that will destroy the earth. Theoretical Science is the biggest joke of the last 100 years.

Well, you have the gravitational field of a black hole the size of whatever they slammed together (a few atoms right?), compared to the gravitation field the size of the earth. Since the strength of gravity is proportional to the mass and density of the object, I think we stand a fair chance of said theoretical pico-sized black hole either being torn apart by the much, much larger gravitational field of the Earth, or evaporating into nothing.

It's not like it will suck everything in all at once anyways. There isn't enough mass to do so. Add to that the Earth gets struck on occasion by particles far exceeding the energy levels that the LHC is running at, and I don't have any worries regarding it.

 
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