Bullshiat science is bullshiat.

Crap. Now I have to mod my radon detector for this too?

It's tobacco. Not asbestos.

Yeah, f*ck science. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

jehovahs witness protection: Bullshiat science is bullshiat.

I was about to say STFU, then I read this:

The term "thirdhand smoke" was coined in 2009, in a study in the journal Pediatrics which found that 65 percent of nonsmokers thought that the residue of tobacco smoke found on furniture and drapes, in rugs and dust, and on skin and clothing, can harm children and infants.

Really?

Fourth-hand smoke is where small children and pets are harmed by pictures of tobacco products. Fifth-hand smoke is where unborn children and pictures of pets are harmed because you thought about tobacco products ;)

Fourthhand smoke. You had sex with a smoker. Your dick falls off.

Fifthhand smoke. You saw a pack of cigarettes. Your eyes boil in the sockets.

Sixthhand smoke. You ate beef jerky. Your stomach implodes.

Seventhhand smoke. You thought about smoking. omg brain cancer

BUT I ONLY HAVE TWO HANDS!

GooberMcFly: BUT I ONLY HAVE TWO HANDS!

But on the gripping hand ... ;)

Interesting. Of course, the next questions are what levels of smoke residue are required, under what circumstances does this become toxic and just how probable/common are these events.

I suspect many smokers will just call it "junk science" and many non-smokers will trumpet this as the latest danger to their health that smokers create when the real answer is clearly more research.

darkyn: I suspect many smokers will just call it "junk science"

Well, asking random people whether they think something is harmful sounds pretty damn junk-sciencey to me.

ne2d: Well, asking random people whether they think something is harmful sounds pretty damn junk-sciencey to me.

That does seem quite silly, but the article goes on to discuss levels of toxins in the blood and other real-sciencey things.

Third hand smoke raped my mother and killed my father.

Remember kids, the less contact you have with cigarette smoke, the more harmful it is.

I'm pretty sure that my child will develop asthma if he even sees someone smoking on TV.

House of Tards: I'm pretty sure that my child will develop asthma if he even sees someone smoking on TV.

I caught Mad Men for the first time last night and now I have emphysema!

Diogenes: House of Tards: I'm pretty sure that my child will develop asthma if he even sees someone smoking on TV.

I caught Mad Men for the first time last night and now I have emphysema!

I read this thread and now I'm coughing up tar.

Y'know, I've seen all these "Radon is bad" commercials stating that "Radon is the second-leading cause of lung cancer" in the United States.

But if some percentage of smokers are ALSO affected by Radon in their homes then wouldn't Radon be the Biggest leading cause of lung cancer?

Just something to think about.

I think we can all agree that smoking tobacco is good for you, your kids, your pets and all those whiny little b*tch non-smokers at restaurants and their kids too.

WaltzingMathilda: I think we can all agree that smoking tobacco is good for you, your kids, your pets and all those whiny little b*tch non-smokers at restaurants and their kids too.

You said "smoking"...quick, hide your precious babies before their ears get cancer.

Adjective Bird Whiskey: WaltzingMathilda: I think we can all agree that smoking tobacco is good for you, your kids, your pets and all those whiny little b*tch non-smokers at restaurants and their kids too.

You said "smoking"...quick, hide your precious babies before their ears get cancer.

speaking of which, when are my state representatives going to finally address all of my letters asking for a state-wide ban on indoor babies. if you want to have a goddamned baby that's fine, but don't bring it out in public where i have to listen to it.

thomps: Adjective Bird Whiskey: WaltzingMathilda: I think we can all agree that smoking tobacco is good for you, your kids, your pets and all those whiny little b*tch non-smokers at restaurants and their kids too.

You said "smoking"...quick, hide your precious babies before their ears get cancer.

speaking of which, when are my state representatives going to finally address all of my letters asking for a state-wide ban on indoor babies. if you want to have a goddamned baby that's fine, but don't bring it out in public where i have to listen to it.

I know! I've been to those places that have designated baby areas. But they do shiat for secondhand wailing. Take it outside.

Diogenes: It's tobacco. Not asbestos.

No, it's WORSE THAN PLUTONIUM AND CYANIDE GAS.

Diogenes: thomps: Adjective Bird Whiskey: WaltzingMathilda: I think we can all agree that smoking tobacco is good for you, your kids, your pets and all those whiny little b*tch non-smokers at restaurants and their kids too.

You said "smoking"...quick, hide your precious babies before their ears get cancer.

speaking of which, when are my state representatives going to finally address all of my letters asking for a state-wide ban on indoor babies. if you want to have a goddamned baby that's fine, but don't bring it out in public where i have to listen to it.

I know! I've been to those places that have designated baby areas. But they do shiat for secondhand wailing. Take it outside.

gah, tell me about it: as if some arbitrary baby-section designation is going to actually do anything. not to mention the poor wait-staff that has to work in the section all day long, pretending that each baby is cute and special and acting like it's no bother to swap out a chair for a high-chair (and you know that baby isn't ordering anything to improve the bill) all the while ingesting decibels upon decibels of crying. these people make me sick.

Third hand smoke makes your house smell bad. I'm going to kill myself if I can't get that smell out of here.

This is more proof that WE ARE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEE!

SpinStopper: Fourth-hand smoke is where small children and pets are harmed by pictures of tobacco products. Fifth-hand smoke is where unborn children and pictures of pets are harmed because you thought about tobacco products ;)

How does the sixth-hand smoke tie in with Kevin Bacon?

thomps:

gah, tell me about it: as if some arbitrary baby-section designation is going to actually do anything. not to mention the poor wait-staff that has to work in the section all day long, pretending that each baby is cute and special and acting like it's no bother to swap out a chair for a high-chair (and you know that baby isn't ordering anything to improve the bill) all the while ingesting decibels upon decibels of crying. these people make me sick.

Babies aren't people.

ne2d 2010-02-09 10:24:08 AM jehovahs witness protection: Bullshiat science is bullshiat. I was about to say STFU, then I read this: The term "thirdhand smoke" was coined in 2009, in a study in the journal Pediatrics which found that 65 percent of nonsmokers thought that the residue of tobacco smoke found on furniture and drapes, in rugs and dust, and on skin and clothing, can harm children and infants. Really?
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It's not bullshiat because it's not even science. They polled people as to whether or not they THOUGHT it was harmful.

It is bullshiat, just not bullshiat science :)

i cant believe people still smoke (sigh)

ne2d: jehovahs witness protection: Bullshiat science is bullshiat.

I was about to say STFU, then I read this:

The term "thirdhand smoke" was coined in 2009, in a study in the journal Pediatrics which found that 65 percent of nonsmokers thought that the residue of tobacco smoke found on furniture and drapes, in rugs and dust, and on skin and clothing, can harm children and infants.

Really?

Well, it reeks to high heaven, so it's putting something into the air. I used to play in bar band, and well remember having to clean the yellow nicotine crap off my gear before bringing it in the house after a weekend gig, or the whole house would stink of cigarets the next day. I was a smoker at the time too, so I didn't exactly have a sensitive nose.

Seems reasonable to investigate whether it's toxic or not. Nasty smelling things very often are.

/like your mom!

found that 65 percent of nonsmokers thought that the residue of tobacco

nice

As a precaution, Gundel advised replacing furniture and drapes that have been heavily exposed to nicotine, and she supports 100 percent smoke-free public places. In addition, smoking inside vehicles also leaves behind nicotine on surfaces, she noted.

And there you have it... 100% smoke free outdoor places...

Pretty much anything can hurt babies. Who the f*ck cares?

I can't believe that other people still can't mind their own business when it comes to other people smoking.

AmazingRuss: Seems reasonable to investigate whether it's toxic or not. Nasty smelling things very often are.

and broccoli!
//smells like shiat...

Third hand smoke is that god awful stink that you smell when you get on an elevator with somebody who just butted out their cigarette.

I have to get off the elevator when I smell one get on.

TheCharmerUnderMe: Y'know, I've seen all these "Radon is bad" commercials stating that "Radon is the second-leading cause of lung cancer" in the United States.

Have tobacco companies ever tried to research a "safe" cigarette? Obviously inhaling combustion will always be harmful, but couldn't they reduce carcinogens?

Or maybe even somehow reduce the smell. That would be nice.

Meh, I only care about unborn babies. Once they're out I could give a fark.

Well, putting a nicotine patch on your scrotum is right out.

thomps: not to mention the poor wait-staff that has to work in the section all day long, pretending that each baby is cute and special and acting like it's no bother to swap out a chair for a high-chair (and you know that baby isn't ordering anything to improve the bill) all the while ingesting decibels upon decibels of crying. these people make me sick.

It's enough to make you go stand in the cold by the dumpsters, have a smoke with the dishwasher, and biatch about your unappreciated degree in poli sci.

HotWingConspiracy: Have tobacco companies ever tried to research a "safe" cigarette? Obviously inhaling combustion will always be harmful, but couldn't they reduce carcinogens?

Or maybe even somehow reduce the smell. That would be nice.

Well electronic cigarettes are gaining popularity. Of course there are already groups who want to outlaw those too.

HotWingConspiracy: Have tobacco companies ever tried to research a "safe" cigarette? Obviously inhaling combustion will always be harmful, but couldn't they reduce carcinogens?

Or maybe even somehow reduce the smell. That would be nice.

Here you go (new window)

Ok, here's the study: Get two couches. One from a life long heavy indoor smoker and another brand new from a furniture store. Put them in separate climate controlled airtight rooms. Put a rat on each couch and wait to see how long it takes to get cancer.

You know who else smoked?

That's right. The French!

Tat'dGreaser: HotWingConspiracy: Have tobacco companies ever tried to research a "safe" cigarette? Obviously inhaling combustion will always be harmful, but couldn't they reduce carcinogens?

Or maybe even somehow reduce the smell. That would be nice.

Well electronic cigarettes are gaining popularity. Of course there are already groups who want to outlaw those too.

Yeah I know about those, but do they give you the sensation of smoking? Or is it just a nicotine delivery device?