So, free health care isn't free.

jehovahs witness protection: So, free health care isn't free.

If there's one thing we can take from this, it's that!

Good luck collecting.

Here in the U.S. it's much more civilized. They bill you for stuff you never used.

I'm sure paying that bill will be high on the "to-do" list of all those Haitians.

Before this thread gets all serious and health care-y, Subby, you're headline made me Laughter Out Loud.

I like this idea of charging for charity. It has potential.

God forbid those lazy earthquake summoners pay for their own stuff huh? Talk about the ultimate in refusal to take personal responsibility. I bet they all voted for Obama.

1lastcall: Before this thread gets all serious and health care-y, Subby, you're your headline made me Laughter Out Loud.

Frickin frackin farkin sonofa@#!$% %^!*^#.

/FTFM
//Moar coffee, please.

Thunderpipes: God forbid those lazy earthquake summoners pay for their own stuff huh? Talk about the ultimate in refusal to take personal responsibility. I bet they all voted for Obama.

I lol'd.

*looks at handle*

What just happened?

Doesn't the Good Will and Salvation Army Store do this all the time?

Marcus Aurelius: Here in the U.S. it's much more civilized. They bill you for stuff you never used.

and they bill you for 60 times the actual cost just to see if you're dumb enough to pay without negotiating, cause the "free market" is more efficient, or something...

And if you're on medicare or medicaid, they bill even more than that, and successfully lobby for laws to keep the government from negotiating cheaper rates or services... cause it's the free market!!!

FREE MARKETS are efficient!

So the doctors treating them should just work for free? They shouldn't be afforded their wages so that they can feed their families?

Yes this is a tragedy. Yes people need help. But free medical supplies and free medicine don't pay for the doctor's time or care.

Instead of threatening to cut off medical supplies, the UN should be investigating how they can alleviate the problem of compensating the medical staff as well.

lazymojo: Marcus Aurelius: Here in the U.S. it's much more civilized. They bill you for stuff you never used.

and they bill you for 60 times the actual cost just to see if you're dumb enough to pay without negotiating, cause the "free market" is more efficient, or something...

And if you're on medicare or medicaid, they bill even more than that, and successfully lobby for laws to keep the government from negotiating cheaper rates or services... cause it's the free market!!!

FREE MARKETS are efficient!

this

bittermang: So the doctors treating them should just work for free? They shouldn't be afforded their wages so that they can feed their families?

Yes this is a tragedy. Yes people need help. But free medical supplies and free medicine don't pay for the doctor's time or care.

Instead of threatening to cut off medical supplies, the UN should be investigating how they can alleviate the problem of compensating the medical staff as well.

You DNRTFA, did you?

FTA: Hospitals don't need to charge patients to pay their staff, because Haitian Health Ministry employees are getting paid with donated money, Rerat added.

Lots of the doctors that "volunteered" demanded to be paid. I know here in VT which is the most liberal place on Earth, the people from Fletcher Allen demanded payment to volunteer. I guess I don't understand how charity works. I thought it meant to "give" of yourself.

1lastcall: 1lastcall: Before this thread gets all serious and health care-y, Subby, you're your headline made me Laughter Out Loud.

Frickin frackin farkin sonofa@#!$% %^!*^#.

/FTFM
//Moar coffee, please.

Trolling is a art.

Subby, so insurance companies would love hospitals to bill more? Man, they're even more evil than we thought!!!

netweavr: Trolling is an art.

/did I just bite?

lazymojo: Marcus Aurelius: Here in the U.S. it's much more civilized. They bill you for stuff you never used.

and they bill you for 60 times the actual cost just to see if you're dumb enough to pay without negotiating, cause the "free market" is more efficient, or something...

And if you're on medicare or medicaid, they bill even more than that, and successfully lobby for laws to keep the government from negotiating cheaper rates or services... cause it's the free market!!!

FREE MARKETS are efficient!

This. I was privy to the negotiations between the hospital and my insurance for my daughter's birth. The price started at $29k, and was negotiated down to $11k.

Thunderpipes: God forbid those lazy earthquake summoners pay for their own stuff huh? Talk about the ultimate in refusal to take personal responsibility. I bet they all voted for Obama.

-3/10 but I smiled

dreadprophet: netweavr: Trolling is an art.

/did I just bite?

I was tempted, but resisted ... :)

Well Isnt this interesting. I guess you can't just get free healthcare by being black and going to the emergency room.

Why is the UN filled with lefty pinko commies, these hospitals are providing a service and deserved to be compensated for.

1lastcall: I was tempted, but resisted ... :)

Somebody had to do it.

Submitter has a very strange mental model of how Haiti is functioning if he thinks the billing is done afterwards. Even if the patients had homes left to send the bills to, and there were a functioning mail system to deliver the bills, and the bills got through to the right person, and the person weren't bankrupt so the debt is legally enforcable, there is still no functioning legal system to enforce payment of the debt.

This is more a case of unscrupulous docters demanding payment in hard cash before they will give away donated medicines.

Just goes to show: black people have no morals.

dreadprophet: netweavr: Trolling is an art.

/did I just bite?

*smokes a cigar*

Was it good for you?

netweavr: *smokes a cigar*

Was it good for you?

You better pass that cigar.

I stopped reading and taking the article seriously right here:

U.N. goodwill ambassador Angelina Jolie, meanwhile, was heading to Haiti to meet with earthquake victims on Tuesday after speaking with hospitalized quake survivors in the neighboring Dominican

Honestly, it just looks like they are crying about rumors. Also, they are eventually going to need to start charging again, since health care is a business and there is no free lunch.

netweavr: dreadprophet: netweavr: Trolling is an art.

/did I just bite?

*smokes a cigar*

Was it good for you?

Heh. That even read sinister.

Thunderpipes: Lots of the doctors that "volunteered" demanded to be paid. I know here in VT which is the most liberal place on Earth, the people from Fletcher Allen demanded payment to volunteer. I guess I don't understand how charity works. I thought it meant to "give" of yourself.

I loathe myself for this, and will have to take an extra long shower, but do you have any proof of this assertion?

bittermang: So the doctors treating them should just work for free? They shouldn't be afforded their wages so that they can feed their families?

Yes this is a tragedy. Yes people need help. But free medical supplies and free medicine don't pay for the doctor's time or care.

Instead of threatening to cut off medical supplies, the UN should be investigating how they can alleviate the problem of compensating the medical staff as well.

Fark that. Send the hospital a bill for the supplies. Surely you're not arguing that the doctors should just get those supplies for free, right?

bittermang: So the doctors treating them should just work for free? They shouldn't be afforded their wages so that they can feed their families?

Yes this is a tragedy. Yes people need help. But free medical supplies and free medicine don't pay for the doctor's time or care.

Instead of threatening to cut off medical supplies, the UN should be investigating how they can alleviate the problem of compensating the medical staff as well.

FTA: Hospitals don't need to charge patients to pay their staff, because Haitian Health Ministry employees are getting paid with donated money, Rerat added.

feralbaby: bittermang: So the doctors treating them should just work for free? They shouldn't be afforded their wages so that they can feed their families?

Yes this is a tragedy. Yes people need help. But free medical supplies and free medicine don't pay for the doctor's time or care.

Instead of threatening to cut off medical supplies, the UN should be investigating how they can alleviate the problem of compensating the medical staff as well.

FTA: Hospitals don't need to charge patients to pay their staff, because Haitian Health Ministry employees are getting paid with donated money, Rerat added.

Yeah, because we all know the only cost at ANY institution is labor.

Thunderpipes: God forbid those lazy earthquake summoners pay for their own stuff huh? Talk about the ultimate in refusal to take personal responsibility. I bet they all voted for Obama.

Thank you for the most asinine comment of the day, and with the thousands of Farkers, that's quite an achievement.

rogrog: Whut?
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I've missed something while on Fark hiatus I see.

/A new challenger appears.

Trance750: Thunderpipes: God forbid those lazy earthquake summoners pay for their own stuff huh? Talk about the ultimate in refusal to take personal responsibility. I bet they all voted for Obama.

Thank you for the most asinine comment of the day, and with the thousands of Farkers, that's quite an achievement.

What is nutty? this is one of the LEAST inflamatory posts I have ever seen "Him" Make, heck I was going to pat the guy on the back for starting to share his actual viewpoint and not just troll a thread.....

So If I understand this right, they are upset because the UN isn't getting a cut?

If they are upset then they should just skim off their take before the medicine gets there.

Occam's Nailfile: feralbaby: bittermang: So the doctors treating them should just work for free? They shouldn't be afforded their wages so that they can feed their families?

Yes this is a tragedy. Yes people need help. But free medical supplies and free medicine don't pay for the doctor's time or care.

Instead of threatening to cut off medical supplies, the UN should be investigating how they can alleviate the problem of compensating the medical staff as well.

FTA: Hospitals don't need to charge patients to pay their staff, because Haitian Health Ministry employees are getting paid with donated money, Rerat added.

Yeah, because we all know the only cost at ANY institution is labor.

Supplies donated, labor paid with donations.. what, you want bribes covered too?

Occam's Nailfile: feralbaby: bittermang: So the doctors treating them should just work for free? They shouldn't be afforded their wages so that they can feed their families?

Yes this is a tragedy. Yes people need help. But free medical supplies and free medicine don't pay for the doctor's time or care.

Instead of threatening to cut off medical supplies, the UN should be investigating how they can alleviate the problem of compensating the medical staff as well.

FTA: Hospitals don't need to charge patients to pay their staff, because Haitian Health Ministry employees are getting paid with donated money, Rerat added.

Yeah, because we all know the only cost at ANY institution is labor.

pretty much what I came to say.

Building dont run for free, last time I checked, they have water, sewer, power, property taxes, etc............................................................................. .......................................................

neilio42: Subby, so insurance companies would love hospitals to bill more? Man, they're even more evil than we thought!!!

This. The headline confuses the brain thingy.

Cornwell: rogrog: Whut?
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I've missed something while on Fark hiatus I see.

/A new challenger appears.

The second time I'll post this in the same thread:

what just happened?

Trance750: Thunderpipes: God forbid those lazy earthquake summoners pay for their own stuff huh? Talk about the ultimate in refusal to take personal responsibility. I bet they all voted for Obama.

Thank you for the most asinine comment of the day, and with the thousands of Farkers, that's quite an achievement.

The worse people like you think my comments are, the better I know they are. That was a joke by the way, you do know that? Christ even an evil conservative like me would help an earthquake victim. I just would leave right afterward and let them do what they will. They will just make babies and summon more earthquakes with their unlimited Voodoo mana.

It's kinda hard in this thread to distinguish the trolls who read the article from the morons who didn't.

youfoundthekingbaby: Occam's Nailfile: feralbaby: bittermang: So the doctors treating them should just work for free? They shouldn't be afforded their wages so that they can feed their families?

Yes this is a tragedy. Yes people need help. But free medical supplies and free medicine don't pay for the doctor's time or care.

Instead of threatening to cut off medical supplies, the UN should be investigating how they can alleviate the problem of compensating the medical staff as well.

FTA: Hospitals don't need to charge patients to pay their staff, because Haitian Health Ministry employees are getting paid with donated money, Rerat added.

Yeah, because we all know the only cost at ANY institution is labor.

pretty much what I came to say.

Building dont run for free, last time I checked, they have water, sewer, power, property taxes, etc............................................................................. .......................................................

Article says they are being charged for donated medicine, as well as staff pay.. Lots of room for corruption there. If you want to keep this all in the light, charge for hospital use itself.

I must be the only one who knows that blood banks in the U.S. have been selling donated blood for many years.

Sarsin - Your insurance company was a wimp. The bill for our daughter's birth and Mom's time hanging out in antepartum went from $47,000 magically down to $14,000.

Citation for NightOwl225 (new window) on doctors wanting to be paid to volunteer...

FWIW they are being paid... donation dollars are being used to pay Hatian doctors/nurses along with others who are spending their time here.

The question is should they be billing patients on top of that... or were the donations supposed to cover the cost.

This isn't that different than billing health insurance... then after the insurance pays billing the patient for the same amount... oh wait, they do that all the time and get away with it unless you fight them tooth and nail.