Tuesday

I wasn't aware that those lovely leg bracelets had a "DRUG DEAL CURRENTLY GOING DOWN" status light.

Cocaine is a helluva drug.



/DNRTFA
//Drink coke, don't snort/smoke it...

Dustin's not here.

told police he was cleaning his .380-caliber handgun when it discharged.

Doing shiat like this should automatically disqualify you from owning firearms.

But but this is Fark where drugs are harmless and should be legal!

Zer0ne: But but this is Fark where drugs are harmless and should be legal!

this article makes me have a serious internal conflict about gun rights and an individual's rights to use drugs, i used to be for both of them, but now i'm not so sure

Darwin needs to get to the batting cage.

*insert, "was that wrong" meme here>

Zer0ne: But but this is Fark where drugs are harmless and should be legal!

Subby didn't say they shouldn't be legal. Just that they make you do dumb things.

I wish all tedious threads came with a tedious headline fully summarising their tediousness, so I would not be tricked into clicking on them.

/props to mitter

People don't abuse Drugs.
Drugs abuse people.


Drugs are for lusers.

Hope I never get subjected to a triggerhappy guy as myself but if "the lead" is ending up in the belly anyway, I shure ain't gonna swollow it. Does this make sense at all?

Handgun ownership 101....make sure your weapon is unloaded prior to cleaning

There is just something about a "cleaning" accident that screams morbid stupidity

I won't even go into buying dope from someone on house arrest

BTW, did his mom/wife know he had their pistol?

/you don't want to die with that little sissy gun, you want to die with a man's gun
//Viva El Guapo!

I'm sure there's more to it (DNRTFA). Maybe he should have "had my money."

/At least the dealer was at home, amirite?

The Muncie man also has convictions for theft (in 2008) and battery (2006).

This guy was stupid long before the drugs.

Being stoned and eating doritos probably helps this idiot stay out of trouble.

My favorite gun story from another Farker:

Yes, but this is also an excellent way to use the guns that you've been stockpiling. Because, let's face it, there's nothing worse than a stockpile of guns that you can't use. You get them out, caress them, murmur over them, clean them and trace the barrel over your temple and your hardening nipples, imagine that it loves you as much as you love it, but your longing glances at the door, at the window...they do nothing. Nobody breaks in. Nobody ever breaks in. You keep buying these guns, keep giving them a place in your life, but nobody ever tries to break into your house.

So you open a Facebook account. And you post your first status update. Gone fishing for the weekend. Won't be back until Monday. Hope nobody tries to come in the back door...lock won't work. And then you turn out the lights, sit back in your armchair, and wait. Whisper to your gun.

And, soon enough, just past midnight...a rattle at the window. A jigger of the door handle. A creak. You regulate your breathing, swallow against your dry throat, level the gun. Feel the tendons in your finger flex, pull. The resistance of the trigger. The door opens. "Hi there," you whisper. BLAM.

Sure, it was your sister, coming to check on your house. But that's not the point. The point is the purpose. Your purpose. You've found it.

Going to the mall, you post. Be back in four hours. Leaving the diamond necklace beside the sink so I don't forget it later.

Man, I told my buddies not to talk about that...

/so embarrassed...

DevideByZer0: The Muncie man also has convictions for theft (in 2008) and battery (2006).

This guy was stupid long before the drugs.

Being stoned and eating doritos probably helps this idiot stay out of trouble.

Agreed, when I read the headline I had a feeling weed was involved. It's the stupid that makes you do dumb things. Pot just happens to be the unfortuate victim in this case.

Yes, I am 100% positive that everyone is telling the truth and he shot himself in the stomach because he really looks like a fellow that would keep his gun extra clean.

gittlebass: this article makes me have a serious internal conflict about gun rights and an individual's rights to use drugs, i used to be for both of them, but now i'm not so sure

Gun rights or recreational drug use (including alcohol). Choose one.

Is it too hard for local news sites to clearly state in the header what dumb ass state they are from?

When someone says "I was cleaning my gun when it went off", they really mean "I was too stupid to make sure the gun was unloaded before I started screwing around with it".

Scenario #1: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is drinking = wow, what a fool never mix alcohol and weapons (sage advice btw)

Scenario #2: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is found in possession of pot = Jesus Christ we need to get these horrible drugs off the street and what monsters would have those drugs in their house anyway AND they had weapons. I no longer feel safe in the neighborhood and the police need to start door to door raids to prevent these people from even being in the neighborhood. I mean what kind of monsters have moved in here recently the neighborhood is really going downhill the the introduction of "pot."


/If you're going to party, lock up the hardware

Fail in Human Form: Scenario #1: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is drinking = wow, what a fool never mix alcohol and weapons (sage advice btw)

Scenario #2: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is found in possession of pot = Jesus Christ we need to get these horrible drugs off the street and what monsters would have those drugs in their house anyway AND they had weapons. I no longer feel safe in the neighborhood and the police need to start door to door raids to prevent these people from even being in the neighborhood. I mean what kind of monsters have moved in here recently the neighborhood is really going downhill the the introduction of "pot dealers on parole."


/If you're going to party, lock up the hardware

FTFY

Before clicking on this article I thought I was going to read about some serious drug usage. Turns out they were just smoking weed.

Come on, man. The weed didn't cause these people to be stupid with a gun, they were plenty stupid to begin with.

Epsilon: Before clicking on this article I thought I was going to read about some serious drug usage. Turns out they were just smoking weed.

Come on, man. The weed didn't cause these people to be stupid with a gun, they were plenty stupid to begin with.

Yeah, these guys were just having a good time weighing their massive wad of pot, cleaning their guns, and tinkering with their court-mandated tracking devices.

That's my plan tonight, actually. Pretty standard.

Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Scenario #1: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is drinking = wow, what a fool never mix alcohol and weapons (sage advice btw)

Scenario #2: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is found in possession of pot = Jesus Christ we need to get these horrible drugs off the street and what monsters would have those drugs in their house anyway AND they had weapons. I no longer feel safe in the neighborhood and the police need to start door to door raids to prevent these people from even being in the neighborhood. I mean what kind of monsters have moved in here recently the neighborhood is really going downhill the the introduction of "pot dealers on parole."


/If you're going to party, lock up the hardware

FTFY

Shouldn't have been arrested in the first place so parole has no bearing. 60g is just under 3oz which is about 3 descent sized baggies. OMG the horror... the horror.

/If it was legal I'd be buying it by the pound to cook with

Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Scenario #1: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is drinking = wow, what a fool never mix alcohol and weapons (sage advice btw)

Scenario #2: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is found in possession of pot = Jesus Christ we need to get these horrible drugs off the street and what monsters would have those drugs in their house anyway AND they had weapons. I no longer feel safe in the neighborhood and the police need to start door to door raids to prevent these people from even being in the neighborhood. I mean what kind of monsters have moved in here recently the neighborhood is really going downhill the the introduction of "pot dealers on parole."


/If you're going to party, lock up the hardware

FTFY

Shouldn't have been arrested in the first place so parole has no bearing. 60g is just under 3oz which is about 3 descent sized baggies. OMG the horror... the horror.

/If it was legal I'd be buying it by the pound to cook with

Really? You mean when the cops answered (like they always do) to a shooting and found that the guy on parole had removed his sweet leg bracelet, had 3 bags of pot in his apartment, and an associate of his was lying on the ground with a bullet in his stomach, they shouldn't have bothered the guy?

LittleSmitty: When someone says "I was cleaning my gun when it went off", they really mean "I was too stupid to make sure the gun was unloaded before I started screwing around with it".

That's another thing I've never understood. The first thing you do when cleaning a gun is make sure it's unloaded. Not only for safety purposes, but also because you can't properly clean a gun if there's a round in the chamber.

Also, there is no part of cleaning a gun that requires you to pull the trigger. But if you want to do this, why in the world would you have it pointed at yourself or someone else while doing that, especially without checking to make sure it's unloaded?

That's just stupidity.

Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Scenario #1: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is drinking = wow, what a fool never mix alcohol and weapons (sage advice btw)

Scenario #2: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is found in possession of pot = Jesus Christ we need to get these horrible drugs off the street and what monsters would have those drugs in their house anyway AND they had weapons. I no longer feel safe in the neighborhood and the police need to start door to door raids to prevent these people from even being in the neighborhood. I mean what kind of monsters have moved in here recently the neighborhood is really going downhill the the introduction of "pot dealers on parole."


/If you're going to party, lock up the hardware

FTFY

Shouldn't have been arrested in the first place so parole has no bearing. 60g is just under 3oz which is about 3 descent sized baggies. OMG the horror... the horror.

/If it was legal I'd be buying it by the pound to cook with

Really? You mean when the cops answered (like they always do) to a shooting and found that the guy on parole had removed his sweet leg bracelet, had 3 bags of pot in his apartment, and an associate of his was lying on the ground with a bullet in his stomach, they shouldn't have bothered the guy?

No, should have been treated as an accidental discharge. Which is what would have happened if it had been alcohol instead of pot.


/Was my understanding they had the bracelets because of dealing in the 1st place... if not I stand corrected

Treygreen13: Yeah, these guys were just having a good time weighing their massive wad of pot, cleaning their guns, and tinkering with their court-mandated tracking devices.

I smell sitcom.

Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Scenario #1: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is drinking = wow, what a fool never mix alcohol and weapons (sage advice btw)

Scenario #2: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is found in possession of pot = Jesus Christ we need to get these horrible drugs off the street and what monsters would have those drugs in their house anyway AND they had weapons. I no longer feel safe in the neighborhood and the police need to start door to door raids to prevent these people from even being in the neighborhood. I mean what kind of monsters have moved in here recently the neighborhood is really going downhill the the introduction of "pot dealers on parole."


/If you're going to party, lock up the hardware

FTFY

Shouldn't have been arrested in the first place so parole has no bearing. 60g is just under 3oz which is about 3 descent sized baggies. OMG the horror... the horror.

/If it was legal I'd be buying it by the pound to cook with

Really? You mean when the cops answered (like they always do) to a shooting and found that the guy on parole had removed his sweet leg bracelet, had 3 bags of pot in his apartment, and an associate of his was lying on the ground with a bullet in his stomach, they shouldn't have bothered the guy?

No, should have been treated as an accidental discharge. Which is what would have happened if it had been alcohol instead of pot.


/Was my understanding they had the bracelets because of dealing in the 1st place... if not I stand corrected

The bracelet was for possession and fleeing, apparently.
It could have been a 60 gram bag of gummy bears, if the cops walk in and see a parolee has removed his leg bracelet and there's a guy with a bullet in his stomach, the parolee is going to jail every single time.

The pot is just a bonus for the cops.

Treygreen13: [sic]

No, you misunderstand. I'm saying he shouldn't have had the bracelet in the 1st place. So, no bracelet or charge for the minor amount of pot. Also, as far as the article says, no intent so accidental discharge with civil charges left up to the victim. Simple enough?

Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: [sic]

No, you misunderstand. I'm saying he shouldn't have had the bracelet in the 1st place. So, no bracelet or charge for the minor amount of pot. Also, as far as the article says, no intent so accidental discharge with civil charges left up to the victim. Simple enough?

Well, except for the "resisting arrest" charge. You know, the one that probably got him parole... not the weed.

Epsilon: LittleSmitty: When someone says "I was cleaning my gun when it went off", they really mean "I was too stupid to make sure the gun was unloaded before I started screwing around with it".

That's another thing I've never understood. The first thing you do when cleaning a gun is make sure it's unloaded. Not only for safety purposes, but also because you can't properly clean a gun if there's a round in the chamber.

Also, there is no part of cleaning a gun that requires you to pull the trigger. But if you want to do this, why in the world would you have it pointed at yourself or someone else while doing that, especially without checking to make sure it's unloaded?

That's just stupidity.

Rule #1 - always assume the gun is loaded

Even after you've removed the magazine and cleared the chamber, treat it like it was loaded

Darwin swings, aaaaannd he misses

Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: [sic]

No, you misunderstand. I'm saying he shouldn't have had the bracelet in the 1st place. So, no bracelet or charge for the minor amount of pot. Also, as far as the article says, no intent so accidental discharge with civil charges left up to the victim. Simple enough?

Well, except for the "resisting arrest" charge. You know, the one that probably got him parole... not the weed.

Resisting arrest will get me off into a rant that really isn't relevant to this thread. I'll say this though, resisting arrest as a charge should be so narrowed that it should mesh with physically beating a police officer. Nothing short of that. It's become a bullshiat catch all that........ but I digress

Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: [sic]

No, you misunderstand. I'm saying he shouldn't have had the bracelet in the 1st place. So, no bracelet or charge for the minor amount of pot. Also, as far as the article says, no intent so accidental discharge with civil charges left up to the victim. Simple enough?

Well, except for the "resisting arrest" charge. You know, the one that probably got him parole... not the weed.

Resisting arrest will get me off into a rant that really isn't relevant to this thread. I'll say this though, resisting arrest as a charge should be so narrowed that it should mesh with physically beating a police officer. Nothing short of that. It's become a bullshiat catch all that........ but I digress

So, leading the police on a car chase... what would you call that? But I digress... I agree that weed probably didn't make these two dumbasses do what they did. They're both colossal idiots. But don't try to downplay this scenario as "just potsmoking". They were obviously involved in something other than the type of casual use most people here support.

Rule #1 - always assume the gun is loaded

Even after you've removed the magazine and cleared the chamber, treat it like it was loaded.

The first thing that my dad taught me about guns (around age 7 or 8 or so) was a phrase I've never forgotten: "Guns have a way of loading themselves."

Every gun everywhere should be treated as if it were loaded at all times. Any other behavior is the work of a true moran. Except maybe in battle. Then you pretty want to make sure you have some bullets in there.

Epsilon: Also, there is no part of cleaning a gun that requires you to pull the trigger.

Many popular pistols (e.g. those made by Glock) require that you pull the trigger to separate the slide from the frame.

Obviously, one should clear the firearm before performing this step.

Pistols are not terribly forgiving of user error.

Treygreen13: [sic]

You're making an assumption. If they didn't have to worry about anything other than an accidental discharge I doubt there would have been a chase (granted, that's my assumption and if there's evidence to the contrary I'll change my opinion) which was the point of my argument in the 1st place. You can't set the table and expect people not to eat simply because you ordered them to do so.

/Also no, even if they run I wouldn't charge them with resisting arrest. For anyone with half a brain cell with the charges that were going to be thrown at them it should be assumed they would run. What's the point of the extra charge give how widely it's been applied.
//If it were a perfect world I'd agree with you about the fleeing charge

Over the years, I've probably smoked over 1000 grams of quality pot.

Never once have I shot, stabbed, or seriously hurt myself in any way while high.

Alcohol though, well, never shot myself but have tripped, fallen, stumbled, and done a range of regrettable things.

It's no wonder pot won out as my recreational drug of choice.

Fail in Human Form: Treygreen13: Fail in Human Form: Scenario #1: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is drinking = wow, what a fool never mix alcohol and weapons (sage advice btw)

Scenario #2: Accidental discharge of a weapon if person is found in possession of pot = Jesus Christ we need to get these horrible drugs off the street and what monsters would have those drugs in their house anyway AND they had weapons. I no longer feel safe in the neighborhood and the police need to start door to door raids to prevent these people from even being in the neighborhood. I mean what kind of monsters have moved in here recently the neighborhood is really going downhill the the introduction of "pot dealers on parole."


/If you're going to party, lock up the hardware

FTFY

Shouldn't have been arrested in the first place so parole has no bearing. 60g is just under 3oz which is about 3 descent sized baggies. OMG the horror... the horror.

/If it was legal I'd be buying it by the pound to cook with

FAIL. 60 grams is just an eighth over two ounces. 28.3 grams in an ounce. You better go back to whomever you've been buying your weed from and get your money back.

3.5g/8th = 28g/oz

60 oz (for the sake of this discussion) = just under 3 oz

/Knew the math before I posted it but it sounded better... so sue me

Fail in Human Form: 3.5g/8th = 28g/oz

60 oz (for the sake of this discussion) = just under 3 oz

/Knew the math before I posted it but it sounded better... so sue me

err 60g even lol

dalovindj: Rule #1 - always assume the gun is loaded

Even after you've removed the magazine and cleared the chamber, treat it like it was loaded.

The first thing that my dad taught me about guns (around age 7 or 8 or so) was a phrase I've never forgotten: "Guns have a way of loading themselves."

Every gun everywhere should be treated as if it were loaded at all times. Any other behavior is the work of a true moran. Except maybe in battle. Then you pretty want to make sure you have some bullets in there.

Yep. Most "accidents" are the result of people playing around with guns they thought were not loaded.

Everyone should be trained in the proper handling of firearms, even if they have no intention of owning one.

/knows a chick from Cuba that can field strip and reassemble an AK47 blindfolded

Well, the stoned farker shouldn't have tried to clean his gun in the washing machine. Or at least should have used the "gentle" cycle.

Rufus Lee King: Well, the stoned farker shouldn't have tried to clean his gun in the washing machine. Or at least should have used the "gentle" cycle.

I watched cooks clean M16s in a pressure washer so I'm getting a kick.....

/And they did it under threat of charges... so much for authority being the be all end all lol

Epsilon: Also, there is no part of cleaning a gun that requires you to pull the trigger.


Glock would like a word with you

Treygreen13: Well, except for the "resisting arrest" charge. You know, the one that probably got him parole... not the weed.

And the felony charge, you know, for possessing a firearm or ammunition as a prohibited person, to wit, anyone who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance. Note that the phrasing of the statute doesn't require a conviction for use or possession of the controlled substance, just establishment that it had been used... easily determined from a hair sample.