There's other kinds of elf sex?

If your character is female, you can also get a lesbian sex scene with the hot French rogue.

I really hope nobody has a problem with that.

iamgoz: There's other kinds of elf sex?

That f*cking elf.

Racht: If your character is female, you can also get a lesbian sex scene with the hot French rogue.

I really hope nobody has a problem with that.

I have 100% approval from her and can not, for the life of me, find her side mission.

SPOILER ALERT

I didn't know I needed Zavran's approval above a certain level. So when the Crows ambushed me, I had to kill him after making him one of the centerpieces of my squad.

iamgoz: There's other kinds of elf sex?



the sky is red. much santorum has been spilled tonight.

I wasn't really looking to get a new video game right now, but my rule of thumb is that if a game gets the fundies riled up then it's worth further investigation.

The problem I have with morality system in games is that I almost always end up evil.

Weaver95: I wasn't really looking to get a new video game right now, but my rule of thumb is that if a game gets the fundies riled up then it's worth further investigation.

The problem I have with morality system in games is that I almost always end up evil.

It's a fantastic game and there is no "good guy/bad guy" morality system, no morality "score". However your actions effect your party and the world around you, so that's where it comes into play.

I Said: It's a fantastic game and there is no "good guy/bad guy" morality system, no morality "score". However your actions effect your party and the world around you, so that's where it comes into play.

I tried to be good in Fable II and before I knew it I was one corrupted mofo. I think it was rigged.

When I played fallout 3 I went to extreme lengths to do things the 'good' way. I even had to get the damn cheat book so that I could find the non-evil paths to conflict resolution. I still think I should have just slaughtered my way across the wasteland. It would have gone faster. esp after I got the spiffy power armor set from that abandoned fort.

That aside, I have heard good things about dragon age. And now it seems that all the right sorts of people hate the game. so...I think that perhaps I should look into getting a copy.

I Said: That f*cking elf.

Racht: If your character is female, you can also get a lesbian sex scene with the hot French rogue.

I really hope nobody has a problem with that.

I have 100% approval from her and can not, for the life of me, find her side mission.


SPOILER ALERT


I didn't know I needed Zavran's approval above a certain level. So when the Crows ambushed me, I had to kill him after making him one of the centerpieces of my squad.

I was trying to sleep with everyone in my party... Nailed Morrigan, and then the French chick started getting uppity, so I ignored her since she was at 95% approval. Started flirting with the gay elf, and now, if I even talk to Morrigan, she gets all pissy that I'm cheating on her. The moral of the story - sleep with everyone, but never talk to them.

Best review of the game is Zero Punctuation's... The graphics are like 5 years and one generation behind, the npcs only have 3 voices and four heads... and yet after 25 hours of playing, I'm only 10% in.

I killed the blood mage at the begining because he was a whiney little prick.

Wow, that's pretty blatant. That said, I don't really give a shiat. If you don't want to go gay, then don't go that route. Easy.

/Normally it's not necessarily as easy as making a choice
//Here we go

secretagentwang: Wow, that's pretty blatant. That said, I don't really give a shiat. If you don't want to go gay, then don't go that route. Easy.

/Normally it's not necessarily as easy as making a choice
//Here we go

I have to say, I'm fond of games that leave your choices open ended...even if the DO all seem to rank efficiency as evil, but that's a minor quibble.

Oh - and if you haven't played through planescape torment, you have failed at life.

Weaver95:
I have to say, I'm fond of games that leave your choices open ended

Yeah, Dragon Age seems to have far more...important choices than games seem to. Several times I reloaded because I realized the consequences of what I had done (like my main tank leaving suddenly right before the last boss because I picked a choice that really upset him). In general if you're playing not to get punished (or to go for max rewards) it can often be unclear which choice you want to make.

Theaetetus: and yet after 25 hours of playing, I'm only 10% in.

And you already nailed Morrigan?

I'm at 40+ hours, about 60-70% done, and haven't gotten with any characters

I Said: SPOILER ALERT

I didn't know I needed Zavran's approval above a certain level. So when the Crows ambushed me, I had to kill him after making him one of the centerpieces of my squad.

Yeah, I didn't really use him at all since I already had a rogue and mages are really overpowered, so I figured it wasn't really that big a deal that I had to kill him. I imagine it'd definitely suck to use him the whole time but not have a good approval rating and get betrayed.

I Said: Theaetetus: and yet after 25 hours of playing, I'm only 10% in.

And you already nailed Morrigan?

I'm at 40+ hours, about 60-70% done, and haven't gotten with any characters

So maybe I looked up the best gifts for each character. Sue me.

Racht: Yeah, I didn't really use him at all since I already had a rogue and mages are really overpowered, so I figured it wasn't really that big a deal that I had to kill him. I imagine it'd definitely suck to use him the whole time but not have a good approval rating and get betrayed.

Unbelievably so. Oddly, I've found the best fighter in your party (which sucks because there's not much story development with him) is the dog.

I Said:

Unbelievably so. Oddly, I've found the best fighter in your party (which sucks because there's not much story development with him) is the dog.

was the dog named Indiana?

I Said: Oddly, I've found the best fighter in your party (which sucks because there's not much story development with him) is the dog.

Really? My top party is me as a blood/spirit healer mage, Morrigan as an aoe dps mage, the french chick for lockpicking, and Alistair as the heavy-armor sword and shield tank. I roll through most battles.

Weaver95:
was the dog named Indiana?

You name it whatever you want. It is pretty hilarious though if you have the "persistent gore" option turned on and every cutscene has a happy tail-waving dog who looks like he was just responsible for the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Theaetetus: Really? My top party is me as a blood/spirit healer mage, Morrigan as an aoe dps mage, the french chick for lockpicking, and Alistair as the heavy-armor sword and shield tank. I roll through most battles.

I don't use the dog often, but if I need to for a fight it's:
Me: warrior
Dog
Sten w/ two handed ax
Wynn (whom I control to heal/revive everyone)

Theaetetus:
Really? My top party is me as a blood/spirit healer mage, Morrigan as an aoe dps mage, the french chick for lockpicking, and Alistair as the heavy-armor sword and shield tank. I roll through most battles.

Yeah, I made the mistake of making a berserker, so I replaced the frenchie with Wynne since it seems like you really want two mages, and just ran back through every dungeon to lockpick later. I'm doing your party on my second playthrough on Hard difficulty now.

Racht: Weaver95:
was the dog named Indiana?

You name it whatever you want. It is pretty hilarious though if you have the "persistent gore" option turned on and every cutscene has a happy tail-waving dog who looks like he was just responsible for the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Ok, now THAT is funny.

Racht: Weaver95:
I have to say, I'm fond of games that leave your choices open ended

Yeah, Dragon Age seems to have far more...important choices than games seem to. Several times I reloaded because I realized the consequences of what I had done (like my main tank leaving suddenly right before the last boss because I picked a choice that really upset him). In general if you're playing not to get punished (or to go for max rewards) it can often be unclear which choice you want to make.

The most interesting is where they force you to choose between two contenders for the dwarvish throne: one who is a nice man who will go on to close the dwarvish kingdoms to outsiders and reinforce a fairly brutal caste system, or support an evil mofo who got where he is by poisoning his own brother, but who goes on to help you fight the blight and who relaxes the caste system and leads the dwarves into a new age.

WND was really descriptive about the gay sex thing. It was... kind of awkward to read.

vossiewulf: The most interesting is where they force you to choose between two contenders for the dwarvish throne: one who is a nice man who will go on to close the dwarvish kingdoms to outsiders and reinforce a fairly brutal caste system, or support an evil mofo who got where he is by poisoning his own brother, but who goes on to help you fight the blight and who relaxes the caste system and leads the dwarves into a new age.

F*CK! I read that whole story line wrong and picked Harrowmont. I need to play through again. I thought the nice guy was going to relax the system.

vossiewulf:
The most interesting is where they force you to choose between two contenders for the dwarvish throne: one who is a nice man who will go on to close the dwarvish kingdoms to outsiders and reinforce a fairly brutal caste system, or support an evil mofo who got where he is by poisoning his own brother, but who goes on to help you fight the blight and who relaxes the caste system and leads the dwarves into a new age.

So basically it's a replay of the 2008 election season?

i'll stop now.

Weaver95: Racht: Weaver95:
was the dog named Indiana?

You name it whatever you want. It is pretty hilarious though if you have the "persistent gore" option turned on and every cutscene has a happy tail-waving dog who looks like he was just responsible for the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Ok, now THAT is funny.

The blood spatter is stupid, I turned it off. It doesn't look edgy or adult, it looks like all the characters were just in a Monty Python fight scene where some guy gets an arm cut off and it sprays blood like a 2 inch firehose. It's absurd.

vossiewulf: support an evil mofo who got where he is by poisoning his own brother

Which is what I did, only to see what he did immediately upon taking the throne. Guess it serves me right.

SPOILER ALERT (like this whole thread is I'm sure):

If you happen to know, do you not get the golems in the last battles if you don't side with Branka? They were very helpful, and I'm curious as to whether that's a clearly better choice.

Weaver95: I tried to be good in Fable II and before I knew it I was one corrupted mofo. I think it was rigged.

It is ridiculously easy to be good and pure in Fable II, I don't know what you're going on about.

vossiewulf:
The blood spatter is stupid, I turned it off.

Yeah I did too, about two hours in. It's completely hilariously over-the-top, especially on the dog.

GAT_00: Weaver95: I tried to be good in Fable II and before I knew it I was one corrupted mofo. I think it was rigged.

It is ridiculously easy to be good and pure in Fable II, I don't know what you're going on about.

Me either. I did all the things I thought were good and pure.

GAT_00: Weaver95: I tried to be good in Fable II and before I knew it I was one corrupted mofo. I think it was rigged.

It is ridiculously easy to be good and pure in Fable II, I don't know what you're going on about.

You forget, Weaver's a badass mofo.

Racht: vossiewulf:
The blood spatter is stupid, I turned it off.

Yeah I did too, about two hours in. It's completely hilariously over-the-top, especially on the dog.

like...Kill Bill over the top, or just stupid? 'cause I can handle the Kill Bill style of blood and gore. it's actually kinda funny.

Racht: SPOILER ALERT (like this whole thread is I'm sure):

If you happen to know, do you not get the golems in the last battles if you don't side with Branka? They were very helpful, and I'm curious as to whether that's a clearly better choice.

I fought against Branka and didn't get the golems help. You destroy the anvil instead.

Rush Limbaugh waddles out to purchase a copy.

Racht: vossiewulf: support an evil mofo who got where he is by poisoning his own brother

Which is what I did, only to see what he did immediately upon taking the throne. Guess it serves me right.

SPOILER ALERT (like this whole thread is I'm sure):

If you happen to know, do you not get the golems in the last battles if you don't side with Branka? They were very helpful, and I'm curious as to whether that's a clearly better choice.

You don't get the golems if you don't side with Branka. But even so I won the final part first time through at normal difficulty.

Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: I tried to be good in Fable II and before I knew it I was one corrupted mofo. I think it was rigged.

It is ridiculously easy to be good and pure in Fable II, I don't know what you're going on about.

Me either. I did all the things I thought were good and pure.

I can't help but be good and pure in every game except, so far, Mass Effect and this game at times (I wanted to kill Zevran immediately, among other things, but my roommate would talk me out of those things)

Weaver95:
like...Kill Bill over the top, or just stupid? 'cause I can handle the Kill Bill style of blood and gore. it's actually kinda funny.



You pretty much look like that the whole time. More so probably, that looks like it's on the lowest graphics settings, but it's the first one I found in GIS.

Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: I tried to be good in Fable II and before I knew it I was one corrupted mofo. I think it was rigged.

It is ridiculously easy to be good and pure in Fable II, I don't know what you're going on about.

Me either. I did all the things I thought were good and pure.

The moral of the story is: Evil triumphs because Good is dumb.

Racht: You pretty much look like that the whole time. More so probably, that looks like it's on the lowest graphics settings, but it's the first one I found in GIS.

Ok, that's funny.

Weaver95: Me either. I did all the things I thought were good and pure.

Simple way? Buy properties and lower costs, get the weapon by donating to the Temple of the Light at the right time, 10K is easy even that early and it gives you a great early weapon, and never pull your weapons out when there are civilians around, except to defend them. Easy as that.

I don't know what you were doing if you had trouble staying good.

netweavr: Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: I tried to be good in Fable II and before I knew it I was one corrupted mofo. I think it was rigged.

It is ridiculously easy to be good and pure in Fable II, I don't know what you're going on about.

Me either. I did all the things I thought were good and pure.

The moral of the story is: Evil triumphs because Good is dumb.

apparently being efficient is 'evil'.

ok, I might have accidentally sacrificed a few people at the evil temple. But they were people nobody was gonna miss anyway! And then there was my real estate/slum lord purchases. And a couple of evictions. um...couple one night stands...and one random murder (my finger slipped on the controller - I swear!).

But aside from all that, I was completely and totally good!

Weaver95: netweavr: Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: I tried to be good in Fable II and before I knew it I was one corrupted mofo. I think it was rigged.

It is ridiculously easy to be good and pure in Fable II, I don't know what you're going on about.

Me either. I did all the things I thought were good and pure.

The moral of the story is: Evil triumphs because Good is dumb.

apparently being efficient is 'evil'.

ok, I might have accidentally sacrificed a few people at the evil temple. But they were people nobody was gonna miss anyway! And then there was my real estate/slum lord purchases. And a couple of evictions. um...couple one night stands...and one random murder (my finger slipped on the controller - I swear!).

But aside from all that, I was completely and totally good!

Utilitarian methods are the benchmark of efficiency.

Utilitarianism is chaotic evil.

netweavr: Utilitarianism is chaotic evil.

It's not neutral evil?

/so mad I supported the caste system. Really thinking about going back through the whole thing from that point

BTW, you people suck. I'm going to have to go get this Dragon Age game now.

GAT_00: BTW, you people suck. I'm going to have to go get this Dragon Age game now.

I knew I wanted this game, and my roommate bought modern warfare 2, so great, I'm thinking "forget Assassins Creed 2, bc the first sucked and I'll forgo Mario: Wii"

My best friend tells me Assassins Creed 2 is one of the best games he's ever played, lightyears better than 1, and I played Mario:Wii last weekend. Now I need to buy both.

I Said: netweavr: Utilitarianism is chaotic evil.

It's not neutral evil?

/so mad I supported the caste system. Really thinking about going back through the whole thing from that point

Might be neutral evil. I always screw those up.

I Said: My best friend tells me Assassins Creed 2 is one of the best games he's ever played, lightyears better than 1, and I played Mario:Wii last weekend. Now I need to buy both.

My roommate says AC2 is amazing and another one of my friends says the same. Not my style of game so I won't get it, but I've watched a bit and it looks pretty cool, so there's that. And this one definitely has a purpose to your actions.

netweavr: I Said: netweavr: Utilitarianism is chaotic evil.

It's not neutral evil?

/so mad I supported the caste system. Really thinking about going back through the whole thing from that point

Might be neutral evil. I always screw those up.

I prefer to think of myself as morally neutral.