Yes.

I hate to say it, but the kid does have a fantastic arm, and could be very good in the NFL, as long as he doesn't have the crap knocked out of him in his first couple of seasons. with some good coaching and an O-line, he could really do some damage

I get better at football just watching him. I am sure this pesky leprosy would clear up instantly if I could just touch his hem.

It doesn't matter how his NFL future plays out (for those who don't believe he has NFL potential, Tebow had at least four NFL-quality passes in Saturday's game).

I'm sure Tebow's a helluva nice kid, but for f*cks sake. If "four NFL-quality passes" completed at home against an inferior opponent is something worth completely altering the scouting reports over, I'll drink Drano.

If you're fortunate enough to spend 5 minutes or 20 minutes around Tim Tebow yada yada yada.

Poor kid's going to get drafted by the Redskins and be turned into pulp behind that Swiss cheese O-line. People will say he's a bust, because he only played one season, suffering three career-ending concussions.

Who?
/oblig

bjbce1: I hate to say it, but the kid does have a fantastic arm, and could be very good in the NFL, as long as he doesn't have the crap knocked out of him in his first couple of seasons. with some good coaching and an O-line, he could really do some damage

No he doesn't, his arm is pretty weak. Plus, he runs a college gimmick system that doesn't work in the NFL. Want a perfect example? Alex Smith, who was coached under Urban Meyer at Utah. How's that NFL career working out?

Would YOU bet YOUR life's savings that Tebow will some day be an NFL pro-bowler?

Yeah. Didn't think so.

Tim Tebow is: The First Round Draft Pick for the St. Louis Rams.
Time Tebow will then be: The most hyped Tight End as a First Round Draft pick.

rFarke: Who?
/oblig

The guy whose name is synonymous with the digital video recorder.

/bloop be-doop bloop.

They said on some show this weekend or yesterday (?) that a poll of GMs had him at around pick 33. My guess is that he would be a little higher if they actually believed his skills would translate into a successful NFL career at QB. I just don't buy it and wouldn't be surprised if Wonderboy doesn't cost a coach and/or GM a job if a team does take him to be their QB in the top 5 or even 10 next year.

Something tells me he'll be a lot closer to Eric Crouch than John Elway.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Tim Tebow is: The First Round Draft Pick for the St. Louis Rams.
Time Tebow will then be: The most hyped Tight End as a First Round Draft pick.



Approves.

bjbce1: I hate to say it, but the kid does have a fantastic arm

Off the top of my head in the SEC, Ryan Mallett, Jevan Snead and even Jonathan F*cking Crompton have much better arms than Tebow.

As jalee pointed out, the guy has played in a system that doesn't require a QB to make very many tight throws or anything downfield unless a guy is wide-ass open (and when people like Riley Cooper break out wide open downfield, it's because the defense is sucked in by gimmicky sh*t going on in the backfield). Anything's possible, but he hasn't displayed anything outside of being (a) big, and (b) mobile.

the joke's on him when he realizes god's not real.

I can't wait to see Tebow lead the BC Lions to another Grey Cup.

genzoman: the joke's on him when he realizes god's not real.

THIS

/blasphemy, the only victimless crime

Wait, is this thread about Eric Crouch or Tim Tebow?

video man: Wait, is this thread about Eric Crouch or Tim Tebow?

There's a difference?

bjbce1: I hate to say it, but the kid does have a fantastic arm, and could be very good in the NFL, as long as he doesn't have the crap knocked out of him in his first couple of seasons. with some good coaching and an O-line, he could really do some damage

Get the hell out of the sports tab and go back to the knitting tab, where you might know what you are talking about.

jalee: No he doesn't, his arm is pretty weak. Plus, he runs a college gimmick system that doesn't work in the NFL. Want a perfect example? Alex Smith, who was coached under Urban Meyer at Utah. How's that NFL career working out?

Thank you!

bjbce1: I hate to say it, but the kid does have a fantastic arm, and could be very good in the NFL

no. his throwing motion is too slow, and NFL safeties will eat that up

bjbce1: I hate to say it, but the kid does have a fantastic arm

His release point is almost as low as Doug Flutie's, so that means he'll bounce around for 6 years and then have a mediocre career with a team on the upswing.

Tebow is nothing better than a second rounder. But because of that, he will probably have a better rookie season than other QBs because he'll be on a team with a good/semi-good offensive line and generally a good team around him.

Problem is every scramble he's done looks it was play-called and NFL caliber defenses will knock him around. So running the ball is going to be a minimum, and his College numbers point to that being his best weapon, so his stock falls because of that. His pocket presence is probably best described as average/above average.

He is certainly an upgrade to a number of quarterbacks in the NFL right now (Cleveland, San Fransisco, maybe even Seattle and a number of teams) but how much is an uncertainty.

He will be the most highly anticipated third string halfback in next year's draft!

</tosh>

I want to join in and talk shiat about this kids as much as anyone, but as a Bills fan, I know for a goddamn fact I'm going to be talking myself into accepting the Tebow era in Buffalo.

The article was so full of praise for Tebow's humanity, yet I didn't see any evidence of it therein except that he cries like a pussy.

neapoi: genzoman:

/blasphemy, the only victimless crime

I hadn't heard that one before. Thanks for the laugh.

I hate the Gators, but don't get the Tebow hate. It's not like he hired a PR firm or goes around proclaiming himself the greatest of all-time. This was just the usual ESPN overkill (with the resulting backlash).

Additionally, he has the career record for best passer rating in the SEC. Better than any of the Mannings, Namath, Couch, Wuerffel, etc....

If Josh farking Freeman can be a first round pick, no reason Tebow can't be.

Zombie Hitler: I know for a goddamn fact I'm going to be talking myself into accepting the Tebow era in Buffalo Toronto.

fixed

Killer Cars: It doesn't matter how his NFL future plays out (for those who don't believe he has NFL potential, Tebow had at least four NFL-quality passes in Saturday's game).

I'm sure Tebow's a helluva nice kid, but for f*cks sake. If "four NFL-quality passes" completed at home against an inferior opponent is something worth completely altering the scouting reports over, I'll drink Drano.

I came here to say this. 4 of 20 on average is not going to make even a practice squad. Although 4 quality passes from a TE would be impressive.

FLMountainMan: I hate the Gators, but don't get the Tebow hate. It's not like he hired a PR firm or goes around proclaiming himself the greatest of all-time

the puts bible verses on his eye black. he's not exactly being humble

For his last game, Tebow should put "Matthew 6:1-8" on his eye black.

DoBeDoBeDo: Killer Cars: It doesn't matter how his NFL future plays out (for those who don't believe he has NFL potential, Tebow had at least four NFL-quality passes in Saturday's game).

I'm sure Tebow's a helluva nice kid, but for f*cks sake. If "four NFL-quality passes" completed at home against an inferior opponent is something worth completely altering the scouting reports over, I'll drink Drano.

I came here to say this. 4 of 20 on average is not going to make even a practice squad. Although 4 quality passes from a TE would be impressive.

Except his average isn't 4 of 20. Again, best career passer rating in SEC history.

FLMountainMan: DoBeDoBeDo: Killer Cars: It doesn't matter how his NFL future plays out (for those who don't believe he has NFL potential, Tebow had at least four NFL-quality passes in Saturday's game).

I'm sure Tebow's a helluva nice kid, but for f*cks sake. If "four NFL-quality passes" completed at home against an inferior opponent is something worth completely altering the scouting reports over, I'll drink Drano.

I came here to say this. 4 of 20 on average is not going to make even a practice squad. Although 4 quality passes from a TE would be impressive.

Except his average isn't 4 of 20. Again, best career passer rating in SEC history.

If he threw "4 NFL quality passes" then in the NFL he would average around 4 for 20 as the average number of passing plays in an NFL game is around 20. 4 passes does not an NFL QB make.

FLMountainMan: Again, best career passer rating in SEC history

which is as important to the NFL as the length of his schwantz

albo: FLMountainMan: I hate the Gators, but don't get the Tebow hate. It's not like he hired a PR firm or goes around proclaiming himself the greatest of all-time

the puts bible verses on his eye black. he's not exactly being humble

What is arrogant about bible verses on your farking eye black? Would his home area code be better? Would "I love you mom" be better? World's greatest?

What the hell are you talking about?

jalee: No he doesn't, his arm is pretty weak. Plus, he runs a college gimmick system that doesn't work in the NFL. Want a perfect example? Alex Smith, who was coached under Urban Meyer at Utah. How's that NFL career working out?

Alex Smith is a fine QB in this league. He doesn't make egregious errors, and he's been managing the games well. How well to you expect him to play after 6 games this season? That's the problem with people now; QBs used to be able to grow into the position. Montana, Aikman, Elway, Kelly, even Peyton Manning were giving some room to progress and make mistakes - only to learn from them. Now, QBs are benched after 4-5 games. It's stupid.

I'm not a college football fan at all, but I really think Tebow will win at an NFL level. It may not be in his rookie season, but in 3-4 years he'll be leading his team to the playoffs. From what I've read, Tebow is VERY smart and a great leader (that's better than 1/2 of the QBs starting in the NFL right now). Arm strength is one of the most over-rated attributes in determining a QBs potential (e.g. J.P. Losman). If Tebow can read defenses (which he's proven he can do) and make accurate throws (which the scouting reports say he can), then he will win. As Dungy said the other night, "winners win, regardless of what level the play at". There are rumors that the Bills may be interested in drafting Tebow.

Donnchadha: For his last game, Tebow should put "Matthew 6:1-8" on his eye black.

THIS

FLMountainMan: What is arrogant about bible verses on your farking eye black? Would his home area code be better? Would "I love you mom" be better? World's greatest?

how about nothing, like other players? how about just playing the game instead of trying to burnish your awesomeness and bring people to jesus?

How about just putting his eye black on and going out and playing the game.
You wanna profess your love for Jesus? Fine. Do it in church.

albo: FLMountainMan: What is arrogant about bible verses on your farking eye black? Would his home area code be better? Would "I love you mom" be better? World's greatest?

how about nothing, like other players? how about just playing the game instead of trying to burnish your awesomeness and bring people to jesus?

Have you ever watched football? American football? Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

albo: FLMountainMan: Again, best career passer rating in SEC history

which is as important to the NFL as the length of his schwantz

List of best passer rating this season:
1 Kellen Moore, Boise St. QB
2 Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame QB
3 Max Hall, BYU QB SR
4 Case Keenum, Houston QB JR
5 Tim Tebow, Florida QB SR
6 Andy Dalton, TCU QB JR
7 Ryan Mallett, Arkansas QB SO
8 Nathan Enderle, Idaho QB
9 Dan LeFevour, Central Mich. QB
10 Bill Stull, Pittsburgh QB
11 Colt McCoy, Texas QB
12 Joe Webb, UAB QB
13 Levi Brown, Troy
14 Tyrod Taylor, Virginia Tech
15 Riley Skinner, Wake Forest

Yeah....obviously has no relation to draft positioning....

Shame Based Man: How about just putting his eye black on and going out and playing the game.
You wanna profess your love for Jesus? Fine. Do it in church.

And you come down just as hard on people who put their area code or school colors or anything else on their eye black? You're not just pissy because he's a "Xtian"?

You're more open-minded than that, right?

FLMountainMan: Have you ever watched football? American football? Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

are you serious? are you so invested in tebow that you'd defend him in such a silly, silly manner? i went to my major first college football game probably before you were born.

he'll make a fine tight end for some team.

FLMountainMan:

Yeah....obviously has no relation to draft positioning....

Draft position still means nothing as to how you will PERFORM in the NFL

For example

Jay Cutler

NFL Draft: 2006 / Round: 1 / Pick: 11

2009 NFL passer rating rank......23


Right behind number 22 Matt Cassel

NFL Draft: 2005 / Round: 7 / Pick: 230

Shame Based Man: How about just putting his eye black on and going out and playing the game.
You wanna profess your love for Jesus? Fine. Do it in church.

Seriously, it's the guy's eye-black, on his face. Is it that offensive to you?

I can understand if someone knocked on your door and started talking to you about God, or if someone forced your kids to pray with them in schools. That stuff is serious.

This guy just writes some crap on his eye black and every one points to it like it's the beginning of a religious monarchy.

Tebow is a fine player, and as several other people have said, if he gets into a decent system, he should be fine. He doesn't have what it takes to play well in a bad system, and will probably get crushed if he ends up somewhere like St Louis, who will likely draft him because it will put butt in the seats.

As a Ravens fan, I wouldn't wish Boller on any one.

Shame Based Man: I can't wait to see Tebow lead the BC Lions to another Grey Cup.

Is the Grey Cup a trophy for some new football development league that just started up??

FLMountainMan: And you come down just as hard on people who put their area code or school colors or anything else on their eye black? You're not just pissy because he's a "Xtian"?

You're more open-minded than that, right?

Yup, just go out and play the game. I don't care about your religion, your school, or your kids. I want you to entertain me with athletic gifts I don't possess. Everything else in your private life I don't care about, so don't force it on me. Just throw the ball. (or catch it, or kick it or whatever your gift is.)

albo: i went to my major first college football game probably before you were born.

Says the guy who thinks Tebow is the only football player who puts messages on his eye black....

DoBeDoBeDo: FLMountainMan:

Yeah....obviously has no relation to draft positioning....

Draft position still means nothing as to how you will PERFORM in the NFL

For example

Jay Cutler

NFL Draft: 2005 / Round: 7 / Pick: 230

And I'm not arguing that it does. I just think he's underrated as a passer. I was more comparing him to other first round QB picks and saying that he's not that bad.

To be frank, I don't think he has the intellect to handle an NFL playbook or NFL defensive schemes. But I might be wrong.

But God forbid he put any more messages on his eye black. That makes some people uncomfortable, apparently.

WithinReason: Shame Based Man: I can't wait to see Tebow lead the BC Lions to another Grey Cup.

Is the Grey Cup a trophy for some new football development league that just started up??

Yeah, it is an old trophy, but the league seems to get reborn every year.

Shame Based Man: FLMountainMan: And you come down just as hard on people who put their area code or school colors or anything else on their eye black? You're not just pissy because he's a "Xtian"?

You're more open-minded than that, right?

Yup, just go out and play the game. I don't care about your religion, your school, or your kids. I want you to entertain me with athletic gifts I don't possess. Everything else in your private life I don't care about, so don't force it on me.

Lemme guess, you think Christians have a persecution complex, right?