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Eat it, dickcheese.

PS- You can have the junior college wins.

/props to MOSTLY CERVICAL KREMS for the original post
//so awesome, it had to be done twice

Good night, football man.

Goodbye Bowdenhole!



And only fitting his career ends in THE SWAMP!

/why yes, I am a Gators fan
//and also a Penn State fan

He's probably destined to join May & Holtz as the 3 horsemen of the irritating, unabashedly biased football commentating apocalypse.

bluorangefyre: Goodbye Bowdenhole!



And only fitting his career ends in THE SWAMP!

/why yes, I am a Gators fan
//and also a Penn State fan

Same here, Penn State and Florida are the two teams I've always liked.

Bowden got away with a heck of a lot at FSU just because of his aww shucks shtick.

Good.

I'm not saying that bitterly, I'm just saying that it's time for him to retire. He's had a winning season (barely), and he can now bow out somewhat gracefully. It sure beats getting fired, which would have been a distinct possibility in the future given the direction FSU football has been headed.

I'm a Gator fan at heart, but I have a great deal of respect for what coach Bowden has accomplished in his tenure. To be honest though, he's not getting any younger, and the stress of coaching can't be good for the man. Here's to hoping that he can live out the rest of his life comfortably and happily.

Both of the coaches (Bowden/Paterno) seem like classy guys.

On another note, I just have to say that my vote for the worst, ABSOLUTE worst college football fans goes to Penn State. Hands down.

Sorry if you're a PSU grad and not a complete douchebag, but everyone I've met from there has been. Penn State played us one year too. The fans were the dumbest, drunkest, most violent bunch of losers I have ever seen. Ever.

Even in my professional life when I meet a douchebag (I'm not talking your regular average asshole, I'm talking about a full blown douchebag), it's not long before I find out where they graduated from. Yep...Penn State. Must be something in the water there. Either that, or it's the biggest coincidence in the world that all 20 something people I've met from there are huge douchebags.

/Not a big ten grad

bushbot111: Sorry if you're a PSU grad and not a complete douchebag, but everyone I've met from there has been. Penn State played us one year too. The fans were the dumbest, drunkest, most violent bunch of losers I have ever seen. Ever.

This seems relevant. (new window)

Good luck to Jimbo Fisher.

bushbot111: On another note, I just have to say that my vote for the worst, ABSOLUTE worst college football fans goes to Penn State. Hands down.

The only one I know personally is one of my best friend's who got his masters from PSU. He happens to be one of the best football fans I know (despite being a Packers fan also). I can say that on fark I find PSU and Steelers fans to be the most obnoxious. Nothing against them, just saying. Must be a Pennsylvania thing.

williamzabka: Must be a Pennsylvania thing.

It is.

Poor Jimbo. I don't see him having much of a chance here. You follow a legend but you inherit a .500 team. One of your in state rivals is at the top of the world and the other seems poised to get back there soon, so recruiting is going to be a b*tch. Don't know about the facilities but I can't imagine a worse economic climate in which to go around asking for donations to a .500 team that just lost the greatest coach they will ever have. But hey, it's what he wanted.

Is he off to the curve? Isn't that where they go?

Raptor Jesus: Good.

He's had a winning season (barely), and he can now bow out somewhat gracefully. It sure beats getting fired, which would have been a distinct possibility in the future given the direction FSU football has been headed.


I'm pretty sure he was fired. He "wanted to come back next year" yesterday, and his offer given was: "ambassador to the program or retirement".

Goldeneye007: Raptor Jesus: Good.

He's had a winning season (barely), and he can now bow out somewhat gracefully. It sure beats getting fired, which would have been a distinct possibility in the future given the direction FSU football has been headed.


I'm pretty sure he was fired. He "wanted to come back next year" yesterday, and his offer given was: "ambassador to the program or retirement".

So they wanted to Paterno him eh?

First class, coach. (new window)
Bobby Bowden just didn't want to leave after a crappy season. Jimbo Fisher's done a good job with the offense and should be a good head coach. Anyways, his retirement could be parlayed into a new year's day bowl game. FSU hasn't seen one of those in years.

bushbot111: Both of the coaches (Bowden/Paterno) seem like classy guys.

On another note, I just have to say that my vote for the worst, ABSOLUTE worst college football fans goes to Penn State. Hands down.

Sorry if you're a PSU grad and not a complete douchebag, but everyone I've met from there has been. Penn State played us one year too. The fans were the dumbest, drunkest, most violent bunch of losers I have ever seen. Ever.

Even in my professional life when I meet a douchebag (I'm not talking your regular average asshole, I'm talking about a full blown douchebag), it's not long before I find out where they graduated from. Yep...Penn State. Must be something in the water there. Either that, or it's the biggest coincidence in the world that all 20 something people I've met from there are huge douchebags.

/Not a big ten grad

Well, a lot of PSU students are from Philly originally - home of the world's worst professional football fans. The rest of us are pretty decent.

When his wife made those Barbara Bush like comments a couple of weeks ago........."You know, we don't need the university as much as they need us - as much as they need him and his connections and reputation and everything. If they want to pull that trick, we'll just shake the dirt off our feet and go to Europe or go on a long cruise or something. They'll have to fire him for him not to go another year ... If they've got guts enough to do it, let them do it."....you knew they were going to force him out. Only you don't build a statue of someone, put it at the main entrance to your stadium and fire the guy. So he's "retiring after much soul searching".

A sports writer for the Orlando paper penned a reply to Ann Bowden's Marie Antoinette impression:

Bobby Bowden has betrayed Florida State. And, along the way, he has even betrayed himself.
Throughout the years, Bobby has said that if his program ever fell into a state of disrepair and mediocrity, he would hang it up. He has said in the past that when his program started going downhill, he would "get out and let some young guy do it." He said when a "pattern of losing" developed, it would be time for him to step down. After going 8-4 way back in 2001, Bobby cracked that if the Seminoles suffered another such subpar season, "It might be time for ol' Robert to step down."

That was about six subpar seasons ago and ol' Robert is still desperately hanging onto his job while Florida State's dysfunctional football program circles the drain. This, sadly, is what happens when you don't follow your own advice. There is a feeling among his wife and supporters that boosters like influential trustee Jim Smith are being disloyal for wanting Bowden to retire after this season. Bowden loyalists believe Bobby is owed a graceful and grand farewell by Florida State. I would agree - except for one small problem. It's hard to say farewell to somebody who just won't leave.

Let's face it, as great as Bobby has been and as much as he has meant to FSU, he has selfishly and stubbornly choreographed his own demise. The beginning of his downfall started nearly a decade ago; that's when Bobby's betrayal of Florida State began. That's when he wrongly put his son's career ahead of his program's success.

The year was 2000; the Seminoles were coming off their last appearance in a national championship game and their offense was ranked No. 1 in the nation. Mark Richt, the offensive coordinator, left to become the head coach at Georgia. Bobby could have had his choice of the most innovative offensive minds in college football. He instead hired his son Jeff as the new coordinator. Link

If ESPN picks him up as a college commentator and teams him with Holtz, there won't be enough room in the booth for both their egos.

ESPN is "appalled."

Seriously? WTF?

The same network that trots out an annual "Bowden's lost control of the program!" story, the same network that during broadcasts repeats ad nauseum how far we've fallen, the same network that ran on the front-page of its website a story about our fourth-string wide receiver missing a court date (to take a final exam)....

This same network is now appalled at the way Bobby was treated.

Fark you ESPN. Get back to gobbling USC's knob and let FSU rebuild. I think Jimbo's the right guy to do it.

Our offense is really, really good (before the Florida game at least, we led the nation in scoring against ranked teams).

Our defense, special teams, and overall morale are abysmal though.....

As a Penn State Fan/Alum, LONG LIVE PATERNO.

As a College football fan: Bowden, Congratulations on one HELL of a career. What you did with FSU in the early 90's was insane.

Good luck football man.



\Pretty good friends in real life.
\\GET OFF THEIR LAWNS!

bushbot111: Both of the coaches (Bowden/Paterno) seem like classy guys.

On another note, I just have to say that my vote for the worst, ABSOLUTE worst college football fans goes to Penn State. Hands down.

Sorry if you're a PSU grad and not a complete douchebag, but everyone I've met from there has been. Penn State played us one year too. The fans were the dumbest, drunkest, most violent bunch of losers I have ever seen. Ever.

Even in my professional life when I meet a douchebag (I'm not talking your regular average asshole, I'm talking about a full blown douchebag), it's not long before I find out where they graduated from. Yep...Penn State. Must be something in the water there. Either that, or it's the biggest coincidence in the world that all 20 something people I've met from there are huge douchebags.

/Not a big ten grad


That part I will agree with you on. Everything else...I try to be cordial with all our opponents. Hell, I even congratulated an OSU fan on their win over us.

\GO STATE!
\\It didn't hurt that tOSU fan was teh hawt

The only thing more annoying than all the FSU love is Penn State love.

/said the Gator fan
//About farking time Bowden.

Third Day Mark: The only thing more annoying than all the FSU love is Penn State love.

/said the Gator fan
//About farking time Bowden.

Please. Bowden's latter-day decline is the best thing that could've happened for you program.

I was impressed with the class the Gators showed on Saturday. You guys could've named the score, that was just ridiculous.

But Bobby Bowden should be allowed to coach as long as he wants, amirite?

Doogled: bushbot111: Sorry if you're a PSU grad and not a complete douchebag, but everyone I've met from there has been. Penn State played us one year too. The fans were the dumbest, drunkest, most violent bunch of losers I have ever seen. Ever.

This seems relevant. (new window)

Good luck to Jimbo Fisher.

Why the hell are those LSU fans wearing Penn State colors?

This is a sad way for a great career to end. Good luck in your future endeavors, Coach Bowden.

FARK THE BOWDENS They tend to trash every program they are involved with

Bobby: FSU
Tommy: Clemson
Terry: Auburn

Not that I give a rats ass about FSU or Clemson, but daddy taught his sons how to "blame everyone around them when the problem lies within" very well.

Wow I have to admit I saw it coming but it's still just weird to think Bowden isn't the coach of FSU anymore. End of an era I guess.
And what's Joe Pa have to do with this thread? Oh yeah some people are dicks. I'm not a FSU fan by any stretch but when a man that coached that well for so long steps down it's a little classier to show some respect. that post pictures of your old coach.

My mom did some marketing events with FSU when I was a kid. Have met Bowden, and he is an insanely nice guy to everyone.

The dude is a class act.

Dr_Retriever: FARK THE BOWDENS They tend to trash every program they are involved with

Bobby: FSU
Tommy: Clemson
Terry: Auburn

Not that I give a rats ass about FSU or Clemson, but daddy taught his sons how to "blame everyone around them when the problem lies within" very well.

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wiki:
Florida State Seminoles finished an unprecedented 14 straight seasons in the top 5 of the Associated Press College Football Poll, and won the College Football National Championship in 1993 and 1999.
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Yeah. He totally trashed that program.

Chunks McGunks: Wow I have to admit I saw it coming but it's still just weird to think Bowden isn't the coach of FSU anymore. End of an era I guess.
And what's Joe Pa have to do with this thread? Oh yeah some people are dicks. I'm not a FSU fan by any stretch but when a man that coached that well for so long steps down it's a little classier to show some respect. that post pictures of your old coach.

The sad thing is that the era ended in the late 90's. It's just been on life support from then on. Granted it's not exactly the way that he would want to go, but at this point, there aren't that many more coaches to fall on the sword for him.

Thanks for the memories Coach. We'll miss you.

But now what? They already named the field after him and built a statue of him at the main entrance. Should they rename the university?

seabass242: My mom did some marketing events with FSU when I was a kid. Have met Bowden, and he is an insanely nice guy to everyone.

The dude is a class act.

Dr_Retriever: FARK THE BOWDENS They tend to trash every program they are involved with

Bobby: FSU
Tommy: Clemson
Terry: Auburn

Not that I give a rats ass about FSU or Clemson, but daddy taught his sons how to "blame everyone around them when the problem lies within" very well.

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wiki:
Florida State Seminoles finished an unprecedented 14 straight seasons in the top 5 of the Associated Press College Football Poll, and won the College Football National Championship in 1993 and 1999.
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Yeah. He totally trashed that program.

Yeah. 1999. That was yesterday. What about the past 10 years? I think that qualifies as trashing the program. He took FSU to prominence and couldnt maintain. He has since brought them down to the basement of the ACC. And his lack of player control is just horrendous.

Well I have met Terry and he's a jerk. Keyword is "I" not my mother. He is a big talker, comes across nice...but total ass. Tommy is not far behind.

I completely lost respect for Terry when he left Auburn. He abandoned his pets because it was not convenient to take them with him. After about a week and a massive storm, he called the vet school and told us that he left his horses out in the pasture and was "concerned." When we got there, the horses were running and pacing like crazy and one had a couple of lacerations from the hail storm. We took in the horses and they were soon adopted. He could have and should have let us know before he left. Not that you knew all this about Terry, but hopefully you will see that my comment regarding the Bowdens was not without some first hand experience.

I don't care how "wonderful" you may be, abuse an animal (or a child) and you are the scum of the earth.

He needed to finally go, but the problems aren't solved because Jimbo Fisher is far from the answer.

Antidamascus: Is he off to the curve? Isn't that where they go?

^WIN

My dream:

Bowden named head coach of Notre Dame.

Cat Food Sandwiches: My dream:

Bowden named head coach of Notre Dame.

LOL. Could Notre Dame do any worse?

FLMountainMan: ESPN is "appalled."

Seriously? WTF?

The same network that trots out an annual "Bowden's lost control of the program!" story, the same network that during broadcasts repeats ad nauseum how far we've fallen, the same network that ran on the front-page of its website a story about our fourth-string wide receiver missing a court date (to take a final exam)....

This same network is now appalled at the way Bobby was treated.

Fark you ESPN. Get back to gobbling USC's knob and let FSU rebuild. I think Jimbo's the right guy to do it.

Our offense is really, really good (before the Florida game at least, we led the nation in scoring against ranked teams).

Our defense, special teams, and overall morale are abysmal though.....


Not having Christian Ponder out there didn't help things.

That said, I don't see Bowden in anybody's booth anytime soon. I'm not certain he feels as strongly about the media after having been beaten up in it for the past few years. I think it's funny how ESPN is changing their tune on his treatment; they probably expect him to come calling soon.

I think he steps away for good. I just hope he survives not having anything to do anymore.

bushbot111: On another note, I just have to say that my vote for the worst, ABSOLUTE worst college football fans goes to Penn State. Hands down.

I'm biased, but WVU fans could probably give Penn State's a run for the money.

Earlier in the season, when the UCONN player got shot and killed, WVU fans went out of their way to be respectful of UCONN when they were at Mountaineer Field. Afterwards, though, when it was suggested by some local media that maybe the fans should try to carry that classy attitude to all games, the town pretty much exploded in aghast horror.

bGizzy: Bobby Bowden just didn't want to leave after a crappy season.

Then he should have left 9 years ago.

Good. I have no respect for the man. You guys complaining about the media turning on him seem to forget all of the knob-slobbering he got in the 90's. He got a pass back then even when he was saying and doing some not-so-nice things. So fark him.

CalvinMorallis: bushbot111: On another note, I just have to say that my vote for the worst, ABSOLUTE worst college football fans goes to Penn State. Hands down.

I'm biased, but WVU fans could probably give Penn State's a run for the money.

Earlier in the season, when the UCONN player got shot and killed, WVU fans went out of their way to be respectful of UCONN when they were at Mountaineer Field. Afterwards, though, when it was suggested by some local media that maybe the fans should try to carry that classy attitude to all games, the town pretty much exploded in aghast horror.

Really- in what way did Morgantown explode into aghast horror? Were there riots? Did people write vehement letters to the local and national media defending their right to kill weak and infirm visiting fans?

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Eat it, dickcheese.

PS- You can have the junior college wins.


Does JoePa have to give up all his wins vs 1-AA teams as well? At least Bowden was on an even footing with them when he earned those wins.

Motogp69: He needed to finally go, but the problems aren't solved because Jimbo Fisher is far from the answer.

Really? Why not? The offense is the best in the ACC. Jimbo made Jamarcus freakin Russell into a first round pick.

Now instead of the Bowden Bowl, we will have Jimbo vs Dabo.

Dr_Retriever:He took FSU to prominence and couldnt maintain. He has since brought them down to the basement of the ACC.

And by basement, you mean 3rd place in their division?

FLMountainMan: Motogp69: He needed to finally go, but the problems aren't solved because Jimbo Fisher is far from the answer.

Really? Why not? The offense is the best in the ACC.

1 Georgia Tech 35
2 Clemson 31.8
3 Miami 31.7
4 Virginia Tech 31.4
5 NC State 30.3
6 Florida State 29.8
7 Wake Forest 26.3
8 Boston College 25.8
9 Duke 25.2
10 North Carolina 24.3
11 Maryland 21.3
12 Virginia 19.3

Wow. I'm officially ancient. I played against him when I was a freshman in college and he was in his next to last year at WVU. Chased Danny 'Lightning' Buggs ass all over the place.

MogKupo: Dr_Retriever:He took FSU to prominence and couldnt maintain. He has since brought them down to the basement of the ACC.

And by basement, you mean 3rd place in their division?

FLMountainMan: Motogp69: He needed to finally go, but the problems aren't solved because Jimbo Fisher is far from the answer.

Really? Why not? The offense is the best in the ACC.

1 Georgia Tech 35
2 Clemson 31.8
3 Miami 31.7
4 Virginia Tech 31.4
5 NC State 30.3
6 Florida State 29.8
7 Wake Forest 26.3
8 Boston College 25.8
9 Duke 25.2
10 North Carolina 24.3
11 Maryland 21.3
12 Virginia 19.3

I should've qualified that, with Ponder, the offense was the best in the league. Before the Florida game, they led the nation in scoring against ranked teams.

But I hear Jeff is available.....

Doogled: bushbot111: Sorry if you're a PSU grad and not a complete douchebag, but everyone I've met from there has been. Penn State played us one year too. The fans were the dumbest, drunkest, most violent bunch of losers I have ever seen. Ever.

This seems relevant. (new window)

Good luck to Jimbo Fisher.

Wow. WOW.

What frat is that?

bushbot111: Both of the coaches (Bowden/Paterno) seem like classy guys.

Are we talking about the same Bobby Bowden that pumped his fist in the air during an FSU game when he heard JoePa had to go to the press box?

williamzabka: bushbot111: On another note, I just have to say that my vote for the worst, ABSOLUTE worst college football fans goes to Penn State. Hands down.

The only one I know personally is one of my best friend's who got his masters from PSU. He happens to be one of the best football fans I know (despite being a Packers fan also). I can say that on fark I find PSU and Steelers fans to be the most obnoxious. Nothing against them, just saying. Must be a Pennsylvania thing.

Nah, I was a Bowden hater long before I moved up here. As I said one other time before, being a fan of both Florida and Penn State, that gave me full permission to hate FSU more than anybody. Plus I do recall, since I lived in range of Tallahassee, seeing Bowden on TV lots of times, and the man just seemed like an asshole, like he was God's gift to FSU.

varmitydog: If ESPN picks him up as a college commentator and teams him with Holtz, there won't be enough room in the booth for both their egos.

That's fine, maybe that means someone would finally put Holtz in a nursing home so we can be rid of him and I won't need captioning to understand a commentator...and I'm not deaf.

That farkwad named Clausen as a Heisman finalist, for farks sake, THIS weekend.